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Henlee
09-18-2013, 01:46 PM
In light of the Navy Yard Shooting I am sure there is going to be more calls for Gun Control. However in this case and many others like it there has been multiple opportunities to have prevented the incident if it were not for the lack of mental health services at any level of government. The need for it seems genuine with as many as 1 in 5 suffering from some form of mental health illness. The resources for vets returning with PTSD is sadly very overburdened. I have read multiple articles about how a lot of these people are dumped off at jails and hospitals that are not properly equipped to handle these people. If not that they are left to the world, where not only are they suffering, but also a threat to themselves and others.

Jason Glavich
09-18-2013, 04:17 PM
5150 psych hold could have stopped a lot of things especially when they are in contact with officers and hearing voices.

GaryJ
09-18-2013, 08:55 PM
PTSD is terrible. It is unpredictable. My mom was seeing a gentleman in the 80s who was in WWII. They went out to eat in a very nice restaurant that was an old 2 story house with a stone basement and stone stairs. Half way down the stairs he panicked and all he11 broke loose. Come to find out he had a flashback to his days in Germany.

I am not sure we even know how many of of service men and women have it. I was told by a soldier that works with the folks coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan that 33 of our service men and women commit suicide every day.

Eric Johnson
09-18-2013, 10:37 PM
Here in Alabama they are reducing the beds in our mental illness hospitals and transferring patients to group homes in the community or putting them out on their own. The real test case (Wyatt v. Stickney) was here in Alabama in the mid-70's. We had horrible conditions in our state facilities. However, as we started to greatly improve them, so too was the birth of advocacy groups (like NAMI) which pitched for putting patients close to home. For various reasons, the advocacy groups won. We never achieved a balance between inpatient and outpatient care. The naval base shooter is a good example. If there had been a place for him, would he in fact been put in it? The current thinking is no ... until he'd committed some overt act like killing 12 people.

luvmylabs23139
09-19-2013, 12:42 PM
In light of the Navy Yard Shooting I am sure there is going to be more calls for Gun Control. However in this case and many others like it there has been multiple opportunities to have prevented the incident if it were not for the lack of mental health services at any level of government. The need for it seems genuine with as many as 1 in 5 suffering from some form of mental health illness. The resources for vets returning with PTSD is sadly very overburdened. I have read multiple articles about how a lot of these people are dumped off at jails and hospitals that are not properly equipped to handle these people. If not that they are left to the world, where not only are they suffering, but also a threat to themselves and others.

I have yet to see any evidence that he served in a war zone.

Henlee
09-19-2013, 01:14 PM
His mother said he developed PTSD serving as a volunteer rescuer on 9/11.

BonMallari
09-19-2013, 01:56 PM
mental health care facilities are a lot like prisons, everyone is in favor of them but no one want them in their neighborhood, Here in Vegas they put a new facility in place,amid protests from the neighborhood...and it was across the street from a hospital

swampcollielover
09-19-2013, 03:35 PM
Mental hospitals are few and far between. Many of the mentally ill, cannot be cured. Not all are dangerous, but no one really can tell, diagnostics are not 100% accurate. No easy answers, but something needs to be done and in the world today, Political Correctness will rule the day....meaning nothing substitutive will get done....symbolism over substance.