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Margo Ellis
04-26-2006, 08:15 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that there are certain bumpers you dogs prefer?
Over the years we have gotten several different brands of bumpers, there are ones that all dogs prefer if given a choice.
The DT System bumpers are the ones of choice, not sure if this is because they are softer and don't freeze up like the others.
Lucky Dogs are last, as they seem to be a harder bumper most of the time and in Winter they are just like rocks. Plus if it is really cold they will shatter when thrown in parking lot.
Dolken/ Avery trainers are right up there with first choices, not sure if it is the smell or the shape that attracts the dogs.
Bumperboy bumpers are liked but the longer ropes and streamers usually give a young dog a fit or two.

Any other imput?

Margo

Kristie Wilder
04-26-2006, 08:26 AM
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Any other imput?

Margo

Newmann & Bennets (sp???) should be http://www.decoy1.com

onegunguy
04-26-2006, 08:58 AM
I use any canvas bumpers I can get my hands on... I am about to try my hand at home-made bumpers using a fire hose that didn't pass inspection at the local fire hall.

We'll have to see how much duck (duct) tape I'll need!

onegun

Norene S.
04-26-2006, 09:05 AM
Bumper choice:

Neumann and Bennetts.........the best! Softer than others........Good selection........

Norene S.
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maryandkimo
04-26-2006, 09:52 AM
I think all I have is Neumann & Bennetts also. Last time I ordered the blue ones - any reason for the color other then to tell your's apart from other peoples?

mary

Margo Ellis
04-26-2006, 09:56 AM
I think all I have is Neumann & Bennetts also. Last time I ordered the blue ones - any reason for the color other then to tell your's apart from other peoples?

mary

Blue bumpers? How well do the dogs see these?

Margo

Miriam Wade
04-26-2006, 09:59 AM
Margo-

Not being sarcastic, but I never noticed a preference by my dog. If you threw it-she wanted it.

M

Margo Ellis
04-26-2006, 10:02 AM
Hey M!
I notice more of a choice happening during pile work or drill work. 8)


Margo

Norene S.
04-26-2006, 11:09 AM
I think all I have is Neumann & Bennetts also. Last time I ordered the blue ones - any reason for the color other then to tell your's apart from other peoples?

mary

Blue bumpers? How well do the dogs see these?

Margo

Well what's interesting to me is we have several dogs that will choose a blue bumper over the other colors.........given the choice! :wink:

browndog49768
04-26-2006, 12:17 PM
my dog seems to prefer canvas over most.

the bumperboy bumpers i dont like the long ropes with the throw knob and seeing as i only use them on the laucher and never throw them i just cut the ropes short and left off the little plastic knob and put them on the dokkens

Shayne Mehringer
04-26-2006, 12:28 PM
EZ Rotational make the best bumpers i've seen.

SM

Jesse Higgins
04-26-2006, 12:35 PM
I like the Neumann & Bennetts for field work and the Dokken dummies (not DFT's) for pile work.

Keith Stroyan
04-26-2006, 12:55 PM
I've used all the ones mentioned except Avery and DT. Here's my take.

First, the dogs don't care very much. (Dokkens seem favored at first, but it doesn't last with most dogs - they become just another hunk of plastic.)

Bumper Boys' "throw bumpers" are the most visible. (B&W the long way with a B&W streamer. You can knot the string if you want it shorter.) Dogs usually like the solid foam, but it doesn't last as long as rubber/pvc. They are very light w/o the steel tube for the launcher.

Lucky Dogs are intermediate hardness and last a LONG time (20 yrs.? mine are over 15 and only one cracked. I have black ones and white ones in large and small. Orange in small.)

Neuman and Bennet's valves tend to fall out. At least the ones I've used did.

EZ Rotational's are hard as a rock and heavy. Tend to hold dirt, too. (Matte finish.) (I have black ones and white ones.)

Dokkens are liked best by most (but not all) dogs, but STINK if you use them in water. (Mine smelled so bad I couldn't leave them in the car until I soaked them in bleach.) Don't last near as long as others, either. Smooth finish wears off and they start to "rot."

I use Fire Hose (some commercial and home-made) in winter. My old canvas ones are in bad shape, but still usable in winter, too.

I probably will never need to buy more, but if I did, I'd get BB's or Lucky Dogs, but I might buy some Armadillo Foam ones to see if the dogs like them as much as Dokkens (for 1/3 the price.)

Chris Anders
04-26-2006, 01:52 PM
EZ Rotational and Armadillofoam.

meleagris
04-26-2006, 02:11 PM
I think Keith is right on the money. The one thing I might add is that I like the EZ rotational bumpers for the small (2") bumpers. They do get dirty easily but a high pressure washer at carwash returns to like new condition if you are so inclined. For a large bumper to throw marks, the B&W Lucky dog has worked very well for us!!!

Margo:

I'm curious that your dog liked the Avery birds??? Dogs training for the SRS really didn't seem to like them....maybe the paint smell or large size... I'm glad you had a different experience.

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Margo Ellis
04-26-2006, 02:18 PM
Actually I haven't used the Avery birds yet I use that term for others to get the idea of the shape like the Dokens.

I too heard that the smell on the Avery birds was unliked by the dogs. Wonder if that goes away with age?

I am still wondering about the blue bumpers though, do dogs see that better? I heard that they did see a blue shirt better than most colors but I was wondering on any studies that had been done on this.

The few DT system bumpers we have the puppies seem to prefer those as they are softer, I just don't like the cost.

Margo

Gerard Rozas
04-26-2006, 02:33 PM
Hallmark 3 in - but they are EXPENSIVE!!!

meleagris
04-26-2006, 02:41 PM
I too heard that the smell on the Avery birds was unliked by the dogs. Wonder if that goes away with age?




DBeard has a few and they do seem to be less noxious with some age. After seeing both, I would buy the Dokkens over the Avery birds in spite of the cat pee smell....
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Howard N
04-26-2006, 05:05 PM
I've gone to Hallmark plastic bumpers when I buy bumpers, both 2" and 3". They're softer and stay softer in cold weather.

AmiableLabs
04-26-2006, 05:15 PM
We use E-Z Rotational.

http://www.hunterscentral.com/e-z-rotational/

onegunguy
04-26-2006, 07:10 PM
We use E-Z Rotational.

http://www.hunterscentral.com/e-z-rotational/

How come people don't use canvas like they used to? Durability issues, I suppose... thus a savings and a better bottom line.

I like your quote, Kevin... would you mind elaborating for my "denser" mind?

Thanks,
Matt

Howard N
04-26-2006, 07:34 PM
How come people don't use canvas like they used to? Durability issues, I suppose... thus a savings and a better bottom line.


They mildew, rot and fall apart. Not to mention that the sand can be gone with one puncture.

Bob Rehmet
04-26-2006, 09:26 PM
Hallmark. Five years of use and they are still soft with no signs of wear.

Golddogs
04-26-2006, 10:14 PM
I had always used the N & B's but now have all DT Systems. They do not get a rock hard in cold weather and are as durable as the N & B's. I just wish they made a Black and white.

Henry V
04-26-2006, 10:46 PM
As long as folks have mentioned Avery's and Dokken's I would suggest that you also look at http://www.armadillofoam.com. The full sized ducks are a bit large and I have been told that they are coming out with a mid-sized duck soon. I also picked up one of their large (3") bumpers. Nice products overall. Rubber is probably more durable and better for yard work but these foam products seem to have a good place in the field.

Losthwy
04-26-2006, 10:48 PM
I think all I have is Neumann & Bennetts also. Last time I ordered the blue ones - any reason for the color other then to tell your's apart from other peoples?

mary

Blue bumpers? How well do the dogs see these?

Margo

Dogs have color vision in the blue/violet range as well as yellow. So yes they do see the blue in blue bumpers.

AmiableLabs
04-27-2006, 11:37 AM
As long as folks have mentioned Avery's and Dokken's I would suggest that you also look at http://www.armadillofoam.com.
We use several, several dozen bumpers in training.

I can't imagine the jolt to my wallet to have to pay $8+ each! :shock:

I am not in anyway criticzing those who do! I just know I can't. :wink:

WingshooterMN
04-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that there are certain bumpers you dogs prefer?

The ones that I tape a wing to. :wink:
I use them less often, sort of like I would birds, as an in-between to birds/bumpers, especially if I don't have any birds for a while. Mostly I do this on DFTs. But I have thrown in an orange canvas bumper w/wing to a pile of white bumpers in pile work and it came back 1st or 2nd everytime.

Everything else equal, my current dog doesn't seem to care at all on the type, and I have 4 or 5 kinds, haven't noticed with the other couple dogs I've had.

NateB
04-27-2006, 12:45 PM
I think Keith is right on the money. The one thing I might add is that I like the EZ rotational bumpers for the small (2") bumpers. They do get dirty easily but a high pressure washer at carwash returns to like new condition if you are so inclined. For a large bumper to throw marks, the B&W Lucky dog has worked very well for us!!!



I would like to know how you hold those bumpers while spraying with the high pressure spray. Sounds like a job for a very hot day<VBG>.

meleagris
04-27-2006, 01:00 PM
I would like to know how you hold those bumpers while spraying with the high pressure spray. Sounds like a job for a very hot day<VBG>.

Nate:

I don't hold them....just lay them out on the ground and spray from directly above. Roll them to get all sides. If you're really having trouble with them rolling (or flying away) under the pressure, you can step on the end of the rope.

John
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Roughriding Woody
04-27-2006, 01:08 PM
I use Lucky Dog, they do tend to be very hard in the cold but are strong. Canvas does well and stays above the snow. A Dokken mallard is Woody's favorite! I have seen the large Armadillafoam mallard, it is way too big for my 8 month. (I am sure he would return it by the neck due to its size.)

Jason Ferris
04-27-2006, 06:33 PM
I started with Hallmarks 2" then shifted to the Jumbos. As other have said, they last well and stay soft. They don't seem to get as slippery when slobbered on either.

Jason.

BrettG
04-27-2006, 09:13 PM
I use lucky dog mostly(cheaper). I use some armidillo foam ducks but they are heavy, I have a couple of dokkens that stink, ATB are just big bumpers in the shape of a duck, I just wish I could afford to do pile work, pattern blinds and all marks with the real thing.

sloba
04-28-2006, 01:19 AM
I notice that my, 4 months, old lab mostly like bumper that i was made
from rabbit skin.

Cray Stephenson
04-28-2006, 07:57 AM
For Standard Bumpers, it's EZ Rotational


I too have a few of the Avery ATBs and I like them, I'd probably use a DFT with younger dogs, but the ATB is tough and should outlast the DFT by a long shot. Like was said above, the aTB is a bumper shaped like a duck.

Rick Hall
04-28-2006, 08:26 AM
I notice that my, 4 months, old lab mostly like bumper that i was made
from rabbit skin.

As I understood it, the question was which bumper do dogs given a choice prefer, and I'm betting Sloba's pup speaks for most.

(This human prefers Ez-Rotational for most purposes and Newman & Bennetts for water-filled applications. Never had a valve come out of one, maybe just lucky. And would just as soon not give my hounds the opportunity to develop strong preferences.)