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BonMallari
11-07-2008, 02:13 PM
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very despicable what bickering is being spread by the McCain staffers, without Palin on the ticket Mac loses by double digits....McCain needs to step up and do the right thing by his running mate, be a man Johnny Mac, after all you picked her....

limiman12
11-07-2008, 03:01 PM
actually it probably was not McCain's choice, it was probably those same staffers that talked him into picking her.

brian breuer
11-07-2008, 03:26 PM
I do agree that the bickering / anon reports appear very petty.

However, most of the postmortums on the McCain campaign indicate her selection was a major issue. He got a boost at first but later I feel she was a big hinderance. Her selection pretty much invalidated his arguement that Obama lacked experience.

Marvin S
11-07-2008, 05:01 PM
I do agree that the bickering / anon reports appear very petty.

However, most of the postmortums on the McCain campaign indicate her selection was a major issue. He got a boost at first but later I feel she was a big hinderance. Her selection pretty much invalidated his arguement that Obama lacked experience.

Priceless!! A supporter of the Socialist-Leaky ticket providing critique on the choice of a running mate.

duckheads
11-08-2008, 01:20 PM
stevens should resign and palin should appoint herself to the seat. boy would that tick off the libs. she won't but can you imagine the reaction from the left. priceless!!!!!!!!!!

K G
11-08-2008, 01:54 PM
She can't appoint herself to the Senate seat in AK since she's still the Governor.

Post election night analysis regards, ;-)

kg

brian breuer
11-08-2008, 03:25 PM
Priceless!! A supporter of the Socialist-Leaky ticket providing critique on the choice of a running mate.

Free country Marvin. I am one of those valuable independent voters that decide the election. You know, one of the middle 20% that don't vote the party line regardless of the person running.

Plus - you don't know who I voted for. I am left leaning in comparison to this forum membership only.

The talk of her running again as the top name on the ticket concerns me greatly as to the direction of the GOP.

I'd like to have a beer with her but that's about it.

Brian

Bob Gutermuth
11-08-2008, 03:29 PM
I hope to have the chance to vote for her again in 2012 FOR PRESIDENT!

Losthwy
11-08-2008, 03:37 PM
My guess why McCain picked her was to appease the right wing of his party or to pull in some of the Hillery supporters, or both. Her abuse of power as governor of Alaska in trying to get her sex-brother-in-law fired from his state patrol post, said to me she is petty, unscrupulus and vindictive.

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11-08-2008, 04:16 PM
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very despicable what bickering is being spread by the McCain staffers, without Palin on the ticket Mac loses by double digits....McCain needs to step up and do the right thing by his running mate, be a man Johnny Mac, after all you picked her....

I held my nose voting for McCain. The only positive was voting for Palin.

Fire N Ice
11-08-2008, 04:46 PM
My guess why McCain picked her was to appease the right wing of his party or to pull in some of the Hillery supporters, or both. Her abuse of power as governor of Alaska in trying to get her sex-brother-in-law fired from his state patrol post, said to me she is petty, unscrupulus and vindictive.

Get your facts straight before making ignorant observations. Her ex-brother in law while on duty shot a moose out of season, was caught drinking alcohol on duty IN HIS PATROL CAR! In the state of Nevada, an automatic, non-appealable immediate dismissal, period! Not to mention he tazered his eleven year old son. I watched him on tv admit to that in an interview. Learn more before regurgatating leftist media bias.

Losthwy
11-08-2008, 04:58 PM
Get your facts straight before making ignorant observations. Her ex-brother in law while on duty shot a moose out of season, was caught drinking alcohol on duty IN HIS PATROL CAR! In the state of Nevada, an automatic, non-appealable immediate dismissal, period! Not to mention he tazered his eleven year old son. I watched him on tv admit to that in an interview. Learn more before regurgatating leftist media bias.
I'm not making any excuses for him, but you choose to ignore the fact an inquiry found she had abused her power as governor. And that is a fact, not leftist media bias.

Here's something regurgitated from the "leftist" Fox News folks.
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/11/palin-denies-reports-findings-that-shes-abused-power/

Fire N Ice
11-08-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm not making any excuses for him, but you choose to ignore the fact an inquiry found she had abused her power as governor. And that is a fact, not leftist media bias.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/palin-repimanded-over-abuse-of-power-as-alaska-governor-958120.html

The fact is that he should have been fired immediately by her subordinate serving at her discretion and wasn't. Therefore her subordinate was dismissed by her. She was found to be fully within her power to have done so. In all state service there are classified and unclassified employees. All classified employees serve at the discretion of the governor of that state and can be fired at any time for any reason. Her suborordinate failed to act in the best interest of the residents of Alaska by dismissing the officer for his, as I said for my state, unappealable offense. He was insubordinate and obstinate to his immediate supervisor (The Governor) and fired. The state of Alaska needs to enact legislation concerning alcohol in state vehicles as my state did the 80's. In fact my Director of the Nevada Department of Transportation was fired within one month of it's enactment. Gone period! So to classify her as an abuser of power for seeking dismissal of an employee who has taken an oath to "protect and serve" Alaskans is reprehensible. I wouldn't have him on my force in parking enforcement.

Losthwy
11-08-2008, 06:12 PM
The bipartisan legislative panel (mostly Republicans) came to the conclusion she acted unethically. Palin maintains the firing of Mr. Monegan was over a "budget dispute". Do you really believe that? I don't, it's BS. She's lying. And the panel thought so as well. Mr. Monegan is to be applauded for standing up to her and her huband's unscrupulous request. Palin wasn't motivated by doing the right thing. Her motivations were strictly petty and vindictive. She's not someone who should hold any office.

Paul Johnson
11-08-2008, 06:23 PM
The bipartisan legislative panel (mostly Republicans) came to the conclusion she acted unethically. Palin maintains the firing of Mr. Monegan was over a "budget dispute". Do you really believe that? I don't, it's BS. She's lying. And the panel thought so as well. Mr. Monegan is to be applauded for standing up to her and her huband's unscrupulous request. Palin wasn't motivated by doing the right thing. Her motivations were strictly petty and vindictive. She's not someone who should hold any office.

There you go again, spouting crap. If you actually paid attention to the news, you would have seen or heard that she was found innocent of all charges just a week or so ago. Instead, you spend all your time searching the internet, trying to dig up dirt. What's wrong? Are you afraid of women having power?

PS I'll bet you voted Obama who thinks there are 57 states, and Biden who clearly does not think before he opens his mouth.

Fire N Ice
11-08-2008, 06:39 PM
The bipartisan legislative panel (mostly Republicans) came to the conclusion she acted unethically. Palin maintains the firing of Mr. Monegan was over a "budget dispute". Do you really believe that? I don't, it's BS. She's lying. And the panel thought so as well. Mr. Monegan is to be applauded for standing up to her and her huband's unscrupulous request. Palin wasn't motivated by doing the right thing. Her motivations were strictly petty and vindictive. She's not someone who should hold any office.

Once again get your facts right. They found that her husband had spoken to involved parties and she was in fact found to have told her husband to stop speaking to them. Never the less as I said Monegan was a classified employee serving at her discretion do you get that? As in all administrations it is very common to replace those within HER adminstration who do not govern their respective agencies as SHE sees fit. She was elected by the people of Alaska to do that, Govern her adminstration as she sees fit. It happens all the time. She didn't have to have a reason. He didn't want to be subordinate to his supervisor. He therefore was dismissed. In fact watch Obamas adminstration over the next four years. He will appoint and then fire people because they aren't running things as he wanted them to, guaranteed! It's how it works at the State and Federal level. Moneghan knew when she was elected that his and all Department heads were in jeopardy of dismissal as it is with all newly elected Governors of EVERY STATE. For you to defend this officer is hilarious. You seem to be telling me that he should continue to serve as a Police officer. Is that what your saying? I have made it perfectly clear that she could and did fire Moneghan, it doesn't matter why. She didn't want him working for her and so he was replaced. He in fact was offered a different position and refused. So he's a fool. Lost his retirement and what's he doing now except boo hooing!

YardleyLabs
11-08-2008, 07:07 PM
There you go again, spouting crap. If you actually paid attention to the news, you would have seen or heard that she was found innocent of all charges just a week or so ago. Instead, you spend all your time searching the internet, trying to dig up dirt. What's wrong? Are you afraid of women having power?

PS I'll bet you voted Obama who thinks there are 57 states, and Biden who clearly does not think before he opens his mouth.

Just to be clear... There was a legislative investigation initiated by the republican majority. Palin had initially agreed to cooperate with this investigation. Following her nomination, she and the McCain campaign did everything they could to try to halt or at least delay this investigation and refused to cooperate with the legislature. Several of her aids refused to testify but changed their minds under threat of legal action.

To counter the legislative investigation, Palin initiated an investigation by the Personnel Board, the members of which are appointed by the Governor.

Both the legislative commitee and the personnel board reached the same basic conclusion: Palin had acted legally within her authority in firing Monegan. However, the legislative committee went on to detail a variety of acts that it believed constituted an abuse of her power and a violation of ethics rules. Most of these actions were undertaken by Todd Palin using Palin's name and office. The issue was never whether or not her ex-brother in law deserved to be fired. The issue was whether she, in her capacity of governor, had the right to demand that his case should be handled in a special manner to satisfy her personal demands and whether or not she, as governor, had the right to pressure her staff by interfering in personnel matters.

The Personnel Board did not disagree with the legislative committee's report regarding the actions by Todd Palin. Rather, it said that Sarah Palin was not responsible for his actions. It had no evidence confirming or denying her knowledge of Todd Palin's actions and Sarah Palin denied knowing what Todd was doing. Sarah Palin had refused to testify or answer questions from the legislative committee. However, she provided testimony to the personnel board stating that she was unaware of te actions by her husband and that she never called Monegan directly. Based on that the personnel board concluded that Sarah Palin was not guilty of ethics violations and that Todd Palin, as a private citizen, was not covered by ethics rules.

There is a good description of this at http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/55232.html.

Paul Johnson
11-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Just to be clear... There was a legislative... ...Sarah Palin was not guilty of ethics violations and that Todd Palin, as a private citizen, was not covered by ethics rules.

There is a good description of this at http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/55232.html.

Thanks Jeff. This is the type of discussion that is needed.

Losthwy
11-08-2008, 07:27 PM
You seem to be telling me that he should continue to serve as a Police officer. Is that what your saying? I have made it perfectly clear that she could and did fire Moneghan, it doesn't matter why.
No, that is not what I am saying. The officer has much to be desired.
Yes, it does matter why. Government should be transparent, not opaque. Elected officials should not use the power of their office for personal revenge. Which is the crux of this issue. And that is what she did pure and simple.

Bud Bass
11-08-2008, 07:33 PM
The fact is that he should have been fired immediately by her subordinate serving at her discretion and wasn't. Therefore her subordinate was dismissed by her. She was found to be fully within her power to have done so. In all state service there are classified and unclassified employees. All classified employees serve at the discretion of the governor of that state and can be fired at any time for any reason. Her suborordinate failed to act in the best interest of the residents of Alaska by dismissing the officer for his, as I said for my state, unappealable offense. He was insubordinate and obstinate to his immediate supervisor (The Governor) and fired. The state of Alaska needs to enact legislation concerning alcohol in state vehicles as my state did the 80's. In fact my Director of the Nevada Department of Transportation was fired within one month of it's enactment. Gone period! So to classify her as an abuser of power for seeking dismissal of an employee who has taken an oath to "protect and serve" Alaskans is reprehensible. I wouldn't have him on my force in parking enforcement.



You need to know and understand the the person she fired had nothing to do with Whooten, except in her mind. Monagan was the Dept of Safety Comm after the Whooten case was reviewed, he was given a slap on the hand, and the case was closed. According to his union, Monagan could not reopen the case without all kinds of crap flying, and if it went to court, Monagan would lose and be in deep crap. But Palin contined to have her staff harass him and finely fired him. Only way you can do anything about him is to find new charges. He was a problem of the past administration, and she took him on due to her personal vendetta. Most of us in AK feel he should hve been fired by the prev administration. Bud

YardleyLabs
11-08-2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks Jeff. This is the type of discussion that is needed.

Thanks for the comment. I might have preferred it without the quote which truncates what I said to look like everyone said the situation was all nice and clean. Personally, I suspect that she knew exactly what was going on and that as a matter of personal judgment she had no business allowing Todd to act in a semi-official capacity as he seems to have done regularly. However, I also believe, as a matter of due process, that she deserves the benefit of the doubt and that seems to have been the basis for the Personnel Board's decision.

Paul Johnson
11-08-2008, 07:50 PM
Thanks for the comment. I might have preferred it without the quote which truncates what I said to look like everyone said the situation was all nice and clean. Personally, I suspect that she knew exactly what was going on and that as a matter of personal judgment she had no business allowing Todd to act in a semi-official capacity as he seems to have done regularly. However, I also believe, as a matter of due process, that she deserves the benefit of the doubt and that seems to have been the basis for the Personnel Board's decision.

I apologize for truncating your quote. If the future, I will be more thoughtful.

M Remington
11-08-2008, 09:00 PM
You Republicans still don't get it! Palin is one of the reasons McCain lost. The fact that she's an imbecile scared a lot of Americans away. American also didn't want someone who was out of the mainstream. The majority of Americans are moderate and don't want right wing zealots running the nation. So, keep supporting Palin--I look forward to two Obama terms.

achiro
11-08-2008, 09:09 PM
You Republicans still don't get it! Palin is one of the reasons McCain lost.
Any poll I've seen say just the opposite but keep trying.

The fact that she's an imbecile scared a lot of Americans away.
Fact? I guess you've met the woman? If not then you are going by what? I guess any moron can become a governor.

The majority of Americans are moderate and don't want right wing zealots running the nation. So, keep supporting Palin--I look forward to two Obama terms.
And you are getting that she is a zealot from what source? :rolleyes:

Seriously, do you actually believe the crap that you post? Get an actual fact to back up your opinions and you might be taken seriously but for now, I am just going to sit back and laugh at you.

M Remington
11-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Achiro, I don't know what "non mainstream" polling organizations you are following, but about 40% (NYT and NBC/WSJ polls) of Americans feel that Palin is qualified to be President (isn't that ultimately what's important?).

I don't think any moron can be governor. I think that any moron can win office in Alaska. What other state elects a convicted felon to the U.S. Senate, a congressman under federal investigation. Also, remember Lisa Murkowski. Appointed by her father who plead guilty to fraud in a recent federal investigation.

I can think of no other word than "zealot" for a women who doesn't even permit abortion in instances of rape and incest.

The great think is that the majority of Americans seem to agree with my point of view. My proof, PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA.

Marvin S
11-08-2008, 09:53 PM
By coincidence, I was thinking of putting together a letter to the Governor complimenting her on the class that she has shown under very difficult circumstances & encouraging her to continue putting forth her message. Though I disagree with her on the intrusion into others lives, I believe her to be the classiest of the nominees in the recent election.

Should I do that, I have full expectation of receiving a personal reply as that is the kind of individual I believe her to be.

Saw a great cartoon this AM - A moose running full speed, bullets whizzing by & the caption "she's back". Added a laugh to the day.

But the interesting thing is, Why do the lefties on this forum continue to bash away, the election is over & their guy got the job, are they afraid of something?

Now that your guy has the job - Are those of us who want nothing except what we earn going to be able to say 4 years from now that we are better off than we were when he was elected - no excuses - he wanted the job!!!

Bud Bass
11-08-2008, 09:59 PM
[QUOTE=achiro;357185]Any poll I've seen say just the opposite but keep trying.

Fact? I guess you've met the woman? If not then you are going by what? I guess any moron can become a governor.

You are almost right, Palin proves that any moron can be elected gov or senator in Alaska if they are on the right. Alaska is a red state, no doubt. Dem Mayer Mark Bagach is behind Stevens by 3000 votes or so, possibly will pull it out next week. Its primarly due to the dems not voting because Obama was ahead. Tony Knowles, a 2 term dem gov, ran again after a break, against Palin, and was not elected, Palin could not have done better if she were blonde, which is how she acts. There is a mystique to her that attracts voters and fools. I believe that she did not know Africa was a contenant and not a country. It fits right in with seeing Russia from her door. She has embarrased Alaska enough, I hope she stays home 4 years from now, and I really hope she does not run for Stevens senate seat after the Senate boots him. Both Knowles and Begich are extreamly intellegent, know the world as well as Alaska and would have been much more suitable for the roles they ran for. Bud

K G
11-08-2008, 10:04 PM
This election was about Bush 43's failed presidency. End of story.

McCain could've picked anyone as his running mate and the outcome would have been no different; perhaps a bit closer race but no change in result. The recent economic downturn sealed his loss. Palin is an easy target; the Left would have attacked any Republican VP candidate with the same zeal, but probably would not have had such an easy time with it...but it wouldn't have mattered in the end.

I truly hope he's the messiah that his supporters have built him up to be. The deck (Congress) is stacked in his favor; if he doesn't get it done in four years, he'll not get another four. He's made too many promises to the "have nots" that came out in record numbers and voted for him that if he doesn't lead them to "the promised land," he can retire with his pension-for-life and live longer as a former president that any one before him.

The clock starts ticking on 1-20-09 regards, ;-)

kg

PS....and Bud, how do you justify BHO's remarks about the Ronald Reagan seance against Palin's (fill in the blank) comments??? :-P

K G
11-08-2008, 10:06 PM
But the interesting thing is, Why do the lefties on this forum continue to bash away, the election is over & their guy got the job, are they afraid of something?

Now that your guy has the job - Are those of us who want nothing except what we earn going to be able to say 4 years from now that we are better off than we were when he was elected - no excuses - he wanted the job!!!

Ditto, Marv....;-)

kg

Bud Bass
11-08-2008, 10:19 PM
[QUOTE=K G;
PS....and Bud, how do you justify BHO's remarks about the Ronald Reagan seance against Palin's (fill in the blank) comments??? :-P[/QUOTE]

Thats easy, In BHO's case, I think he was trying to make a joke and realized after he said it that it was not in the best of taste. BHO and Bidon and for that matter McCain, have given hundreds of interviews, speaches and spoken to thousands for media of all kinds. Could you do that without mis-speaking on occasion, getting your facts confused on occasion? I know I couldn't. Palin is a different matter, ever time she opened her mouth in the first 2/3rds of her campaign she stuck her foot in it. Clear difference here. She exhibited beyond all doubt that she is a Hillbilly from Wasilla. Bud

achiro
11-08-2008, 10:27 PM
Any poll I've seen say just the opposite but keep trying.

Fact? I guess you've met the woman? If not then you are going by what? I guess any moron can become a governor.

You are almost right, Palin proves that any moron can be elected gov or senator in Alaska if they are on the right. Alaska is a red state, no doubt. Dem Mayer Mark Bagach is behind Stevens by 3000 votes or so, possibly will pull it out next week. Its primarly due to the dems not voting because Obama was ahead. Tony Knowles, a 2 term dem gov, ran again after a break, against Palin, and was not elected, Palin could not have done better if she were blonde, which is how she acts. There is a mystique to her that attracts voters and fools. I believe that she did not know Africa was a contenant and not a country. It fits right in with seeing Russia from her door. She has embarrased Alaska enough, I hope she stays home 4 years from now, and I really hope she does not run for Stevens senate seat after the Senate boots him. Both Knowles and Begich are extreamly intellegent, know the world as well as Alaska and would have been much more suitable for the roles they ran for. Bud
I disagree. She had between and 85 and 87% approval rating in your state when all of this started. Which means you and two college professors thought she was bad. ;) A moron wouldn't be able to keep that many people happy.
A big question I have is if Obama is so smart why wouldn't he release his college grades and why did he always stumble around for words if he wasn't using a telepromptor.
Oh and why could he stumble for words and make big mistakes and nobody seems to care but an anonymous source says she didn't know Africa was a continent and everyone is falling all over themselves to believe it???

M Remington
11-08-2008, 10:37 PM
KG, I completely agree with you on BHO's comments about the Reagans--totally inappropriate.

Do we know about the teleprompter thing or is that just what Rush said?

Bud Bass
11-08-2008, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=achiro;357211][quote=akblackdawg;357202]
I disagree. She had between and 85 and 87% approval rating in your state when all of this started.

Yep, you are right. I'm pretty amaized that as many Alaskans continued to and still continue to support her. Her popularity had dropped considerably to 60% level, but that would be outstanding for any other politition. Here is Alaska she won over people with her smile:razz:and wink, good looks and charming personality, as will as her ability to control the media and the interviews. The big time reporters were more then she could handle. I have no doubt that she will win any office in Alaska she chooses to run for, be it
2nd term for Gov or Stevens Senate seat, and who knows, in 4 years she may have studied up enough on her geography and world affairs to bluff herself through another interview with Katie. Bud

Bruce MacPherson
11-09-2008, 12:48 AM
[quote=achiro;357211][quote=akblackdawg;357202]
I disagree. She had between and 85 and 87% approval rating in your state when all of this started.

Here is Alaska she won over people with her smile:razz:and wink, good looks and charming personality, as will as her ability to control the media and the interviews.


Gosh that kind of sounds like how Obama won the Presidency now dosen't it.

Cody Covey
11-09-2008, 06:27 AM
KG, I completely agree with you on BHO's comments about the Reagans--totally inappropriate.

Do we know about the teleprompter thing or is that just what Rush said?Bro did you even pay attention during the election cycle or just blindly vote for Obama? Either he can't read or he can't give a speech without a teleprompter. Either way it's not a good thing. And its not hard to see he doesn't have a teleprompter at some of the events he did. heres a great example,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc&feature=relatedThis is your leader but dont worry its just Rush that makes him stutter...I like the slogan don't blame me I voted for McCain haha.

Roger Perry
11-09-2008, 07:16 AM
Any poll I've seen say just the opposite but keep trying.

Fact? I guess you've met the woman? If not then you are going by what? I guess any moron can become a governor.

And you are getting that she is a zealot from what source? :rolleyes:

Seriously, do you actually believe the crap that you post? Get an actual fact to back up your opinions and you might be taken seriously but for now, I am just going to sit back and laugh at you.


I hope Palin enjoyed her telephone chat with "the President of France" and, oh yea Africa is a continent not a country.

Marvin S
11-09-2008, 01:09 PM
Palin is a different matter, ever time she opened her mouth in the first 2/3rds of her campaign she stuck her foot in it. Clear difference here. She exhibited beyond all doubt that she is a Hillbilly from Wasilla. Bud

Bud -
Have you read your own posts? In order to attain credibility one must be coherent & make a logical presentation.

I for one find your posts amusing in your rabid dislike of the Governor & your comments about her.

As you proved early in the political discussion by your own posts, your support for the Redistributor was a selfish motivation to transfer personal obligations to the taxpaying public.

Paul Johnson
11-09-2008, 09:31 PM
I hope Palin enjoyed her telephone chat with "the President of France" and, oh yea Africa is a continent not a country.

And you have this information first hand? If not, please provide us the name of the source. Or, more likely, you just repeating rumor and inuendo because that is what you want to believe.

Paul Johnson
11-09-2008, 09:43 PM
Bud -
Have you read your own posts? In order to attain credibility one must be coherent & make a logical presentation.

I for one find your posts amusing in your rabid dislike of the Governor & your comments about her.

As you proved early in the political discussion by your own posts, your support for the Redistributor was a selfish motivation to transfer personal obligations to the taxpaying public.

You forgot to mention that he also voted for Biden, a person that is either really stupid or someone that does not think before he opens his mouth. Wasn't it Biden that said that President Roosevelt got on television in 1930 to rally people to help solve the great depression? If I recall correctly, Roosevelt was elected in 1932 and the first television broadcast in the US was in 1936.

Paul Johnson
11-09-2008, 09:53 PM
It is quite clear that there are a number of people that fit the definition of moron and imbecile. They are the ones that use these terms to berate others.

We all agreed to not flame each other but shouldn't that also apply to others?

M Remington
11-10-2008, 12:21 PM
Paul, if Sarah emails me with a complaint, I'll certainly take your advice.

K G
11-13-2008, 08:36 AM
I hope Palin enjoyed her telephone chat with "the President of France" and, oh yea Africa is a continent not a country.

Some people believe everything they hear....

http://www.comcast.net/articles/tv/20081113/Palin.Hoax/

kg

Buzz
11-13-2008, 09:12 AM
Some people believe everything they hear....

http://www.comcast.net/articles/tv/20081113/Palin.Hoax/

kg


Good Lord, you guys aren't even talking about the same incidents.

This Martin Eisenstadt in the story you link claims responsibility for telling FOX that Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent. The guy is bogus.

However, Palin did have a phone conversation with a couple of radio jockeys who claimed to be the president of France. She did have that conversation - I heard the tape, and I saw an interview with McCains campaign manager who said that it was Palin's assistants who were at fault for her even being put on the phone.

Lets try to keep things straight regards...

PS: I for one hope that the Republicans continue their love affair with Palin and promote her heavily for 2012. It will be great entertainment.:cool:

YardleyLabs
11-13-2008, 09:17 AM
Also note that the retraction only concerned MSNBC's identification of the source for the FOX News story about Palin's (lack of) knowledge about Africa. FOX has not retracted its original story and presumably believes it to be true.

K G
11-13-2008, 11:39 AM
Good Lord, you guys aren't even talking about the same incidents.

I'm "talking" about one story, not the radio hoax. Having worked in radio for a lot of my early years in the media business and knowing Palin's "rookiness," that situation doesn't bother me in the least. Those pesky Canadians, eh?


This Martin Eisenstadt in the story you link claims responsibility for telling FOX that Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent. The guy is bogus.

No kidding. :rolleyes: Thanks for the tip. ;-)


However, Palin did have a phone conversation with a couple of radio jockeys who claimed to be the president of France. She did have that conversation - I heard the tape, and I saw an interview with McCains campaign manager who said that it was Palin's assistants who were at fault for her even being put on the phone.

Ditto on all points. Asked and answered.


Lets try to keep things straight regards...

Thank God I have you to "keep things straight"......:cool:


PS: I for one hope that the Republicans continue their love affair with Palin and promote her heavily for 2012. It will be great entertainment.:cool:

I don't much think that's gonna happen. Were it not for liberal democrats and malcontents inside the republican party, she wouldn't be "promoted" now....


Also note that the retraction only concerned MSNBC's identification of the source for the FOX News story about Palin's (lack of) knowledge about Africa. FOX has not retracted its original story and presumably believes it to be true.

Ahhh....."presumably"......reminds me a lot of "assume".....and we all know where that gets us.....though that doesn't seem to stop SOME folks.....

Would one (or several, doesn't matter) of you left-leaning guys tell me WHY Sarah Palin still interests you in particular and democrats in general? The stock market is down over 1000 points since BHO was elected, jobs are evaporating left and right, only Walmart is projecting good news, and you guys want to talk about Sarah Palin......:confused:......reminds me of that part of the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard says "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

We've got bigger problems that Sarah Palin NOT being the VP-elect regards,

kg

Buzz
11-13-2008, 12:32 PM
Would one (or several, doesn't matter) of you left-leaning guys tell me WHY Sarah Palin still interests you in particular and democrats in general? The stock market is down over 1000 points since BHO was elected, jobs are evaporating left and right, only Walmart is projecting good news, and you guys want to talk about Sarah Palin......:confused:......reminds me of that part of the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard says "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

We've got bigger problems that Sarah Palin NOT being the VP-elect regards,

kg

Who has started these threads again?

A thousand points since the election? The market hit these lows before the election and we are testing them once again. Seems to me the market has dropped from 14,000 down to around 8200 in the last year, almost 6000 points. Here is where we might be heading:

Whitehead sees slump worse than Depression

http://www.reuters.com/article/Finance08/idUSTRE4AB7HT20081112

The former head of Goldman Sachs sees the USA loosing it's AAA debt rating because of public demands for new programs while at the same time demanding tax cuts. It has been my observation for years that the US population is reckless with their personal finances, and they have put politicians into power who take the same approach to government that they do to their own finances. Personally I've always lived within my means and have a fair amount of cash on hand. I hope it'll be enough to keep a roof over my head and food on the family table.

I get such a kick out of hearing politicians makes speeches, telling their audience that the American People get it, they know how to manage their own finances, spending only what they take in. The government needs to start handling it's finances like you good folks do at at home. What a bad sick joke. It's time for everyone to cut up their credit cards...

K G
11-13-2008, 12:45 PM
Guess you didn't want to address the "Palin" part (the majority) of the question, huh, Buzz? ;-)

BTW, I agree with you on all the financial points. As a country, we have made the bed we now get to sleep in.

kg

YardleyLabs
11-13-2008, 01:36 PM
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Ahhh....."presumably"......reminds me a lot of "assume".....and we all know where that gets us.....though that doesn't seem to stop SOME folks.....

Would one (or several, doesn't matter) of you left-leaning guys tell me WHY Sarah Palin still interests you in particular and democrats in general? The stock market is down over 1000 points since BHO was elected, jobs are evaporating left and right, only Walmart is projecting good news, and you guys want to talk about Sarah Palin......:confused:......reminds me of that part of the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard says "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
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Keith,
My "presumably" was based on the fact that the article referenced by the original poster -- who seems to have thought the article was saying that Palin knew Arica was a continent -- was from FOX News and made a point of the fact that the hoax disclosed by MSNBC did not affect the credibility of their original story stating that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent.

Personally I could care less about Palin although she is now campaigning hard for 2012. I hope the Republicans can do better since I would rather see strong candidates from both parties. A new thread was started by someone trying to show that "us Palin bashers" had been duped by a hoax and this thread was revived based on the same story. Too bad those reopening the issue didn't actually read the story and forgot that the original comments about Palin's ignorance came from "fair and balanced" FOX News, not MSNBC.

Buzz
11-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Guess you didn't want to address the "Palin" part (the majority) of the question, huh, Buzz? ;-)

kg

I thought I addressed that when I asked who started the treads...

Also, seems that Palin has done more interviews in the last week then during the entire campaign. She is in the news more than McCain and at least as much as the new president elect.