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Chris Atkinson
12-15-2008, 05:12 PM
As the janitor of RTF, I'm sure that it comes as no surprise to users that I do not care for much of the dialogue that takes place on this subforum.
Due to my lack of interest in political debate, I don't read this subforum like I do the main board. It has been brought to my attention, and I've also seen evidence during my occasional viewing of POTUS Place, that there's a false perception among some of RTF's users.

POTUS Place does not have a different standard, regarding acceptable culture, from the main RTF forum. Respectful, non-attacking exchanges are still required on this subforum. Defamatory, profane, demeaning, pornographic, and similar content is still outside the RTF limits on this subforum.

RTF and its forums are not about me or my personal preferences. RTF is for the use of its members to respectfully exchange information and viewpoints. It was for this reason, that the POTUS Place subforum was created. It is a spot for those of you who enjoy discussing political issues in the gallery, to do so while still in the confines of good ol' RTF.

Those crossing the line (the stuff referenced in bold print above) are prone to account locking and usage privelege termination.

Please, all, have fun on RTF. But please refer to others here as you yourself would like others to address yourself.

Sincere thanks,

Chris

Golddogs
12-15-2008, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the post Chris. Seems like the children will always need a gentle reminder on being civil in a diverse society.

Marvin S
12-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Defamatory, profane, demeaning, pornographic, and similar content is still outside the RTF limits on this subforum.

Sincere thanks,

Chris

Did I miss something? I am appreciative of POTUS PLACE & do not want to see it go away, as I'm sure there are others that are glad the politico's have their own little closet.

But I am serious about missing something. Not being from the PC age I sometimes do not understand what would be considered demeaning in today's vernacular.

One side is gloating in the we won mode while the other side is saying the win was with a candidate of dubious merit, so the dialogue continues, as the winner of the marbles will now receive the same treatment as the sitting POTUS. At the least the new losing side will not have to manufacture issues as there appear to be many unreported & unresolved.

Chris - this post is not meant to challenge anything you stated in your post as I agree with what you have posted, just want to be sure I understand.

You do have to admit there is quite a thread on acceptable public displays that has proven we have a few arm chair theologians in our midst. :)

You have a nice day, I always figure we are doing well when we don't hear from you. :D Marvin

BTW, thanks for the smilies!!!

Bruce MacPherson
12-15-2008, 07:38 PM
I'd say the discourse on here is very civil. Those of us that like to discuss these things understand that you, Chris, were by no means obligated to create this sub forum for us and while the conversation may get heated from time to time I have seen nothing lately that crosses the line. As an added benefit I really think there is some very thoughtful arguments made by both sides and while minds may not change it does make us think, not a bad thing.
My feeling is that some will be offended by political dialouge no matter what, but as a general rule I have seen more inflamatory stuff on the training side over the years than I am seeing here.

Mac

JDogger
12-16-2008, 12:29 AM
Yeah... But we're not talking politics here lately, we're talking religion, and if there is anything more likely to inflame, I don't know it.
This sub-forum is titled 'POTUS PLACE' and discussing and agreeing or not, on politics or the President Elect, is one thing... but religious beliefs are quite another.

JD

Chris Atkinson
12-16-2008, 02:24 AM
JDogger,

Thanks for pointing that out.

We've made it known in the past that Religious debate is off limits for RTF.

If you guys are debating religion on RTF, please discontinue it. This subforum is to debate political stuff, not religion.

Thanks,

Chris

K.Bullock
12-16-2008, 07:13 AM
JDogger,

Thanks for pointing that out.

We've made it known in the past that Religious debate is off limits for RTF.

If you guys are debating religion on RTF, please discontinue it. This subforum is to debate political stuff, not religion.

Thanks,

Chris

It seems politics and religion are very close cousins sometimes. Honestly, I was not aware of any rule prohibiting religion in discussion. Apologies to you, and I am aware now and will respect your wishes.

Thanks for providing a great place for retriever addicts to shoot the breeze out of the weather, and any time we wish from our homes. We appreciate it.

Kevin

Ken Bora
12-16-2008, 07:57 AM
You do have to admit there is quite a thread on acceptable public displays that has proven we have a few arm chair theologians in our midst. :)!!!
that would be me? I didn't know I crossed the line. in the license plate thread?
I apologize to Mother Teresa. But I thought that was a great thread. We were talking court rulings right? We were in agreement on the religion part, I thought. I'll try not to reference parables to make my point in the future

K.Bullock
12-16-2008, 08:04 AM
that would be me? I didn't know I crossed the line. in the license plate thread?
I apologize to Mother Teresa. But I thought that was a great thread. We were talking court rulings right? We were in agreement on the religion part, I thought. I'll try not to reference parables to make my point in the future


Everything was fine until Ken came along ...with his maple syrup and deer pictures. What kind of guy makes holes in trees and eats the stuff? :D
just kidding ...I enjoyed the discussion as well.

YardleyLabs
12-16-2008, 09:22 AM
I do not equate a discussion of the constitutional issue of separation of church and state with a discussion of religion per se. We have had a couple of instances where individuals have been respectfully asked to explain their religious perspectives. My impression is that the responses have been direct and treated with complete respect, not debated. All in all, particularly after the anger that accompanied the election process, I have been very pleasantly surprised at the thoughtfulness and respect shown in the discussions on POTUS despite the potentially inflamatory nature of some of the issues addressed. It would be nice if people with such varied attitudes could have similarly respectful conversations in our broader society.

Steve Amrein
12-16-2008, 10:09 AM
I would like to add that with the license plate thread and the Religious display thread were both quite informative and civil enough to not get close to a locked or deleted thread.

JDogger
12-16-2008, 11:08 PM
Well, whomever deleted this thread, be it original poster, or moderator, Good choice! If you think politics are devisive, nothng can hold a candle to religion, even when it seems to cross the line with politics.

JD

K.Bullock
12-16-2008, 11:21 PM
Well, whomever deleted this thread, be it original poster, or moderator, Good choice! If you think politics are devisive, nothng can hold a candle to religion, even when it seems to cross the line with politics.

JD
Your right JD the civility was out of place, the discourse was way too thoughtful and respectful, and there wasn't one link to a quasi-racist photo. It must have been very distressing.

Bruce MacPherson
12-16-2008, 11:31 PM
Well, whomever deleted this thread, be it original poster, or moderator, Good choice! If you think politics are devisive, nothng can hold a candle to religion, even when it seems to cross the line with politics.

JD

So what's the beef with religion Dogger? Don't like the topic don't participate. Some peoples devisive is anothers interesting discussion. Lots of things on here I vehemently disagree with but I don't go pointing them out to the Mod.

JDogger
12-17-2008, 01:58 AM
Your right JD the civility was out of place, the discourse was way too thoughtful and respectful, and there wasn't one link to a quasi-racist photo. It must have been very distressing.

KBullock; someone deleted the South Carolina thread, and it wasn't me. Maybe you should ask the people who have the ability to do that. The original poster, and, or the owner of the site, or one of his Mod's. That was their decision
Photo shop is an amusing tool. Was the picture I posted very distressing to you. I don't think so. What happened to that witty, razor-edged sense of humor when it is pointed at you?
Was the picture quasi-racist? In what way? Be specific.
It utilized a photoshop function labeled liquify, not 'make racist'. But, pehaps in your eyes...?
If you google images of Condi Rice as I did, you'll find images both flattering of our SoS, and some not so.
I posted the picture of SoS Rice to contrast that posted by KG of Sen. HRC, to demonstrate that pictures can be plucked off of the internet in a wide variety of poses, and that all may be humorous or not, depending on one's point of view.
If I have offended you in any way, I sincerely apologize,;)

JD

JDogger
12-17-2008, 02:07 AM
So what's the beef with religion Dogger? Don't like the topic don't participate. Some peoples devisive is anothers interesting discussion. Lots of things on here I vehemently disagree with but I don't go pointing them out to the Mod.

No beef, saltmarsh. I didn't delete the thread.




We've made it known in the past that Religious debate is off limits for RTF.

If you guys are debating religion on RTF, please discontinue it. This subforum is to debate political stuff, not religion.

Thanks,

Chris


Que No?
JD

K.Bullock
12-17-2008, 08:28 AM
KBullock; someone deleted the South Carolina thread, and it wasn't me. Maybe you should ask the people who have the ability to do that. The original poster, and, or the owner of the site, or one of his Mod's. That was their decision

It is gone and I really have no interest how it got that way, and I have expressed no interest. You are projecting a position for me that does not exist.


Photo shop is an amusing tool. Was the picture I posted very distressing to you. I don't think so. What happened to that witty, razor-edged sense of humor when it is pointed at you?
You went over my head here.


Was the picture quasi-racist? In what way? Be specific. It wasn't overtly racist, but, it was an interesting choice of character, it had a semblance of racism. quasi = semblance of


It utilized a photoshop function labeled liquify, not 'make racist'. But, pehaps in your eyes...?
If you google images of Condi Rice as I did, you'll find images both flattering of our SoS, and some not so.
I posted the picture of SoS Rice to contrast that posted by KG of Sen. HRC, to demonstrate that pictures can be plucked off of the internet in a wide variety of poses, and that all may be humorous or not, depending on one's point of view.
If I have offended you in any way, I sincerely apologize,;)

JD
Whatever, No one was debating as you put it, and if you hated it so much why are you trying to keep it going? I'm done. Have a great Christmas.

JDogger
12-17-2008, 09:32 AM
Whatever, Have a great Christmas.

Well said, and a merry Christmas to you as well.