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polmaise
01-09-2009, 03:14 AM
The Polmaise Cup was created to encourage and promote the 'Art of Shooting with Dogs'.
One Shooter,One Spaniel,One Retriever.Combining Shooting and hunting ability safely and humanely under control,to hunt/flush/shoot/retrieve live game in the company of the best guns and gundogs in the UK.
The Polmaise Cup is an annual Non Profit Event.

Each Competitor will be asked to hunt a nominated area of ground to flush all seasonal game within the killing range of his/her gun safely and shoot game ethically,then retrieve to hand under control of dogs and gun at all times.
The Spaniel is expected to hunt the nominated ground and flush game within the range of the gun,and stop to flush and or shot,and remain there whilst the game is retrieved,it should then continue hunting when directed.
The Retriever should be steady at heel at all times,until directed to retrieve the shot game and deliver to hand.

Saturday 10th October ,Braco Nr Gleneagles,Scotland

crackerd
01-19-2009, 05:26 AM
A video's worth 10,000 words________________________


The Polmaise Cup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moBXEEJcChs) was created to encourage and promote the 'Art of Shooting with Dogs'.

One Shooter,One Spaniel,One Retriever.Combining Shooting and hunting ability safely and humanely under control,to hunt/flush/shoot/retrieve live game in the company of the best guns and gundogs in the UK.
The Polmaise Cup is an annual Non Profit Event.

Each Competitor will be asked to hunt a nominated area of ground to flush all seasonal game within the killing range of his/her gun safely and shoot game ethically,then retrieve to hand under control of dogs and gun at all times.

The Spaniel is expected to hunt the nominated ground and flush game within the range of the gun,and stop to flush and or shot,and remain there whilst the game is retrieved,it should then continue hunting when directed.
The Retriever should be steady at heel at all times,until directed to retrieve the shot game and deliver to hand.

Saturday 10th October, Braco Nr Gleneagles,Scotland

MG

polmaise
02-09-2009, 10:10 AM
So,
The Polmaise Cup,was not placed on this forum,to gain a wave of entries,obvious being the geography! and as I am learning,the envoirenment in which tests and trials over the pond are somewhat different?

The concept however regarding 'shooting over your own dog' in a trial competition/ is that not what 'Gundogs' are all about?
Whats the thought from yee all across there?
Robert

FOM
02-09-2009, 10:38 AM
Robert,

There are several shoot and retrieve venues here in the US for gundogs of all styles (pointers and retrievers). I think what makes our FTs different from each other is how we hunt in general for upland birds.

I think you would also be surprised just how many of us over here actually do hunt (i.e. shot over our dogs) here in the US even though we also play the FT game.....FTs are just that, a game.....hunting is a whole different world.

FOM

polmaise
03-16-2009, 05:51 AM
The Polmaise Cup 2009 will be held on Saturday 10th October
at Braco Castle Estate nr Gleneagles Scotland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moBXEEJcChs

polmaise
08-08-2009, 01:11 PM
Robert,

There are several shoot and retrieve venues here in the US for gundogs of all styles (pointers and retrievers). I think what makes our FTs different from each other is how we hunt in general for upland birds.

I think you would also be surprised just how many of us over here actually do hunt (i.e. shot over our dogs) here in the US even though we also play the FT game.....FTs are just that, a game.....hunting is a whole different world.

FOM
Yea!! but this is the first 'Competition', for "Hunters", "Hunting",and Shooting',with Gundogs!!! Two in Tow;-)
http://www.polmaisecup.co.uk

Mark Rosenblum
08-09-2009, 05:28 PM
Very interesting. A few queries:
1. Do most upland hunters in Scotland hunt with both a flushing dog and a retriever?
2. How to enter?
3. How many dogs do you expect to enter?
4. Is the event open to the public to view?
5. Do you expect any dogs from the U.S. ?
6. Is it difficult to import a canine into Scotland without extensive quarantine?
7. What publication or web site would cover the event?

polmaise
08-10-2009, 02:27 AM
Very interesting. A few queries:
Hi Mark
1. Do most upland hunters in Scotland hunt with both a flushing dog and a retriever?
Not Just Scotland! All over the UK,the most common is The Labrador,and Spaniel,they are used for both flushing and retrieving,as they are both well capable of doing it!
The 'Aim' of the Competition is to Test The Primary Breed Functions of A GundogThis has never been done in competition before,using Two Dogs,whilst the Handler 'Shoots over them'?
2. How to enter?
There is an 'Online Entry Form' on the website!
http://www.polmaisecup.co.uk
3. How many dogs do you expect to enter?
16 Handlers 32 Dogs
4. Is the event open to the public to view?
Yes
5. Do you expect any dogs from the U.S. ?
I am aware that Retrievers,and Spaniels 'Rarely' share the same Kennel Over There?, But You guys are 'Great' Hunters I am Told;)So why Not!
6. Is it difficult to import a canine into Scotland without extensive quarantine?
Nah!!! New Pet passport scheme is available for short stay entry
7. What publication or web site would cover the event?
There is a Links page on the web site which shows supporters and sponsors.The Shooting Times Magazine will be There Covering the event
The event is also discussed and Promoted through 'National Organisation of 'Beaters, and Pickers Up[/B]

crackerd
08-10-2009, 04:25 AM
A good word for the road team:


7. What publication or web site would cover the event?
... The event is also discussed and promoted through the [B]National Organisation (http://www.nobs.org.uk/)of Beaters and Pickers Up (http://www.nobs.org.uk/)

Mark, I'm sure Robbie welcomes the opportunity to report on his shooting party for Retriever News. Seems the Scots also are in great need of positive publicity and having their burrs heard after losing their birthright to the Sassenachs (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/opinion/07mcallsmith.html).

MG