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Gun_Dog2002
02-27-2009, 08:08 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090227/ts_nm/us_obama_budget_reaction_3

favored BO's plan. How many times have I heard its a small minority that oppose?


/dog

Franco
02-27-2009, 08:21 AM
We haven't seen The Great Depression yet. Just give this current administration a couple of more months and they'll get us there!


A quote from a smart electrician in the article;

"Eventually everything is going to have to be paid back ... Let everything bottom out as low as it can go and work its way back from there," said Martin Prior, 40, an electrician from California, who called the budget a "disaster

kjrice
02-27-2009, 09:00 AM
Here comes the backdoor tax and spend...http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_go_ot/mileage_tax

Bob Gutermuth
02-27-2009, 09:21 AM
I think I better get ready to start selling apples, cause 1929 is gonna look like a walk in the park after Comrade Obama 'fixes' the economic situation. Our new national motto will be "God HELP America"

Patrick Johndrow
02-27-2009, 10:11 AM
Here comes the backdoor tax and spend...http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_go_ot/mileage_tax


The "BACKDOOR" is exactly where they are going to shove it

Goose
02-27-2009, 10:44 AM
BOHICA...Obama's new motto.

Bob Gutermuth
02-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Sign in Shafer Minnesota - Spreading the wealth around



http://f431.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f148298%5fAEZ5%2fNgAAGe3SagPnArKOy aRH8k&pid=1.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&stationery=1








For you city slickers, this is a manure spreader.




(For you 'enviros', it is an "organic waste recycling applicator" for "sustainable" agriculture practices)

P.S. This was the only implement John Deere ever made that

they would not stand behind!

backpasture
02-27-2009, 02:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090227/ts_nm/us_obama_budget_reaction_3

favored BO's plan. How many times have I heard its a small minority that oppose?


I don't see anything in the article that calls into question the FACT that the majority of Americans favor the stimulus bill. I wouldn't say that it is a *small* minority that opposes it, but it is still a minority.


As it turns out, people across the political spectrum are responding favorably to President Obama and his proposals:
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/w2ju9kmibemflok-vl2qcw.gif

Even 42% of your fellow Republicans approve of President Obama's performance. And, of course, the majority of Democrats and Independents do as well.

You can see the full results of the latest Gallup poll here:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx

Bob Gutermuth
02-27-2009, 05:45 PM
I keep seeing these polls year after year and I really wonder who they interview. I have never been polled on any national politiical issue or canddidate.

Figures may not lie, but liars figure.

Franco
02-27-2009, 06:23 PM
I don't see anything in the article that calls into question the FACT that the majority of Americans favor the stimulus bill. I wouldn't say that it is a *small* minority that opposes it, but it is still a minority.


As it turns out, people across the political spectrum are responding favorably to President Obama and his proposals:
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/w2ju9kmibemflok-vl2qcw.gif

Even 42% of your fellow Republicans approve of President Obama's performance. And, of course, the majority of Democrats and Independents do as well.

You can see the full results of the latest Gallup poll here:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx

There is no way Obomo's approval rating jumped 15% in one day among Repubs, from 27% to 42%!

That is what one calls a glitch in thier methodology. I look at ratings and polls all the time and can spot an error due to poor sampling. Post those figures for end of Feb when those numbers are published and I'll bet they are no higher than the low 20's at best.

Pete
02-27-2009, 06:45 PM
don't see anything in the article that calls into question the FACT that the majority of Americans favor the stimulus bill. I wouldn't say that it is a *small* minority that opposes it, but it is still a minority.


As it turns out, people across the political spectrum are responding favorably to President Obama and his proposals:



The majority of people voted for him too.
So the majority of people are idiots . so what,,,How does that mean anything

Do you think because the majority of people voted for him that that means its good.
I believe the majority of people who voted for him lack judgement therefore they wouldn't know up from down

I wouldn't trust him to clean up my dog schnit nevermind out government.

I now hope what ever he is planning that he fails miserably because he definitely is not planning on fixing our country. he is planning on making us a more socialistic land where the lazy will sponge off the backs of the worker.

Sorry I don't have a link to prove it


Pete

backpasture
02-27-2009, 08:48 PM
That is what one calls a glitch in thier methodology. I look at ratings and polls all the time and can spot an error due to poor sampling. Post those figures for end of Feb when those numbers are published and I'll bet they are no higher than the low 20's at best.

You Republicans have an interesting way of coming to grips with reality.
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff350/backpasture/icanthearyou.jpg
"La, la, la, la! I can't hear you!"

backpasture
02-27-2009, 08:54 PM
So the majority of people are idiots . so what,,,How does that mean anything

Oddly enough, the Repubs didn't think that the 'majority of people were idiots' when they were establishing a 'permanent Republican majority'.



I now hope what ever he is planning that he fails miserably...

You, like Rush Limbaugh, are a 'Patriot'. Not to your country, but to your ideology. You would rather see your country fail than see your ideology fail. Thank God you people are a small minority.

Pete
02-27-2009, 09:04 PM
You, like Rush Limbaugh, are a 'Patriot'. Not to your country, but to your ideology. You would rather see your country fail than see your ideology fail. Thank God you people are a small minority. Today 02:48 AM


He will succeed in screwing up this country 100 times worse than what it is now and I hope he does not succeed in doing that. I have no Republican idiology. They lack balls and lick liberal ass. They are the same garbage from a different mold.
All I really care about is the country not some idiotic ideology.
obama is an educated idiot. And so are his cronies
I hope their dream of socialism fails

Pete

K G
02-27-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

kg

YardleyLabs
02-28-2009, 06:29 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

kg

The Rasmussen Reports are interesting. They show that, since the inauguration, Obama's strong approval rating has averaged 40.2% and is now 41%, strong disapproval averaged 22.7% and is now 26%, approval has averaged 60.7% and is now 60%, and disapproval has averaged 37% and is now 40%. I read that as indicating a high degree of approval with a minor, but relatively small increase in disapproval. Are you seeing a different trend?

Steve Amrein
03-02-2009, 02:38 PM
All of this polling data about approval ratings means jack squat. Hitler was elected as well.

What I look at as far as polling data is the DOW numbers.

Ken Newcomb
03-02-2009, 02:45 PM
For those, bp, that like to pull out charts to explain everything please pull one out that explains why the plummeting stock market is such a great thing.

road kill
03-02-2009, 02:49 PM
BP, I do not mean this as an attack at all.
Can you help me understand how all that is happening is good?

I really don't see it.
And I will read and try to comprehend your answer, because I am missing something here!!

r/k

backpasture
03-02-2009, 03:50 PM
BP, I do not mean this as an attack at all.
Can you help me understand how all that is happening is good?

I really don't see it.
And I will read and try to comprehend your answer, because I am missing something here!!

r/k


How is it good that the Republican party is in the gutter? It's good because the electorate has thrown them out and brought in someone who is 'analytical' (to quote Sec. of Defense Gates) over someone who acts on instinct (and bad instinct at that). And, given the current trends, it doesn't look like the Republican party is coming back anytime soon (particularly when you have Rush and Steele battling over who is the leader of the party).

How is it good that the economy is in the gutter? It's not good, but we are reaping what the Bush admin has been sowing for the past 8 years (with lots of help from a Republican Congress for most of that time).

The idea that the current economic situation is the fault of an adminstration that has been in power for less than 2 months (rather than the adminstration that has spent the past 8 years sowing what we are now reaping) is another part of the silly stuff that the Republican party is trying to peddle. And no one other than the dwindling hard-core base is buying it.

Obama was elected to bring change. He is bringing it, and the Republican base is screaming about it. Surprise, surprise. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans support him and his performance. That is reality.

As usual, this thread doesn't disappoint those who come for the nasty rhetoric -- it only took a few posts for the Obama/Hitler comparisons. That kind of rhetoric is definitely going to help the Republican party regain the trust of the American people. :rolleyes:

road kill
03-02-2009, 03:53 PM
How is it good that the Republican party is in the gutter? It's good because the electorate has thrown them out and brought in someone who is 'analytical' (to quote Sec. of Defense Gates) over someone who acts on instinct (and bad instinct at that). And, given the current trends, it doesn't look like the Republican party is coming back anytime soon (particularly when you have Rush and Steele battling over who is the leader of the party).

How is it good that the economy is in the gutter? It's not good, but we are reaping what the Bush admin has been sowing for the past 8 years (with lots of help from a Republican Congress for most of that time).

The idea that the current economic situation is the fault of an adminstration that has been in power for less than 2 months (rather than the adminstration that has spent the past 8 years sowing what we are now reaping) is another part of the silly stuff that the Republican party is trying to peddle. And no one other than the dwindling hard-core base is buying it.

Obama was elected to bring change. He is bringing it, and the Republican base is screaming about it. Surprise, surprise. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans support him and his performance. That is reality.

As usual, this thread doesn't disappoint those who come for the nasty rhetoric -- it only took a few posts for the Obama/Hitler comparisons. That kind of rhetoric is definitely going to help the Republican party regain the trust of the American people. :rolleyes:

So you feel;

#1--The downturn in the market since President Obama took office has nothing to do with him or his plan?

#2--The end justifies the means as long as Republicans lose?

#3--It's all President Bush's fault?

Thanks,
r/k

K G
03-02-2009, 04:33 PM
Obama was elected to bring change. He is bringing it, and the Republican base is screaming about it. Surprise, surprise. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans support him and his performance. That is reality.



You must not own any investments, Mr. BP (easy to see why you don't use your real name). If you call what the business world and investors have displayed since BHO's inauguration "support," I can only imagine what it will take for you to think there is a "lack" of support....:cool:

And then you whine and cry when no one (except the usual suspects) joins in lockstep with your points of view....it's really getting old, you puking out the same complaints about "this thread."

Now....here's a zinger for you: I really DO hope all this "change" that "the majority of Americans voted for" works. I DO. I'm as serious as I can be...because if it doesn't, you, me, and everyone else here that you think doesn't know their *ss from first base relative to politics, is going to be in a world of ****....and we can all count on you to blame it all on Bush 43....but it won't matter whose fault it is at that point (that'll rock your world won't it!! :D). BHO will have taken us all into the gutter. All of the statistics, polls, and elections ever held are not going to count for a hill of beans when all any of us will be able to find to eat will be beans....:eek:....and they'll be chinese beans at that....

kg

backpasture
03-02-2009, 05:01 PM
#1--The downturn in the market since President Obama took office has nothing to do with him or his plan?

Correct. His plan is to clean up the mess that Bush and company left us. The downturn is a result of the economy coming to grips with the scope of that mess.



#2--The end justifies the means as long as Republicans lose?

Not at all what I said. That's Limbaugh type of thinking.



#3--It's all President Bush's fault?


Not entirely. I would lay some blame on his predecessors as well, including Clinton, as well as Congress. None of them match Bush in the inept execution of bad policy, though.

Franco
03-02-2009, 05:11 PM
How is it good that the economy is in the gutter? It's not good, but we are reaping what the Bush admin has been sowing for the past 8 years (with lots of help from a Republican Congress for most of that time).

The idea that the current economic situation is the fault of an adminstration that has been in power for less than 2 months (rather than the adminstration that has spent the past 8 years sowing what we are now reaping) is another part of the silly stuff that the Republican party is trying to peddle.

That's right, former Clinton policies inherited by the Bush administration had nothing to do with this downturn.:confused: Of course, Dems Frank and Dodd are innocent too. I'm not denying Bush was off his rocker and I said years ago on this forum Bush's policies in Iraq will harm the GOP for a long time.

But, the Wall St mess is all Obomo's. People with money to invest do NOT like what he has put forth in his CRAP stimulus program and that is why the stock market is continuing to tank. People are taking their money out because people with money know he will ruin our economy with the TRILLIONS he wants to spend on his social aganda. If investors liked Obomo's future, they would he buying cheap and selling long. Right now the attitude is, "lets sell now before he completely ruins our economy and country"! In case you haven't looked, the Dow Industrials are down over 5,000 since the election. People with money and brains do NOT like what comes out of Obomo's mouth and they certainly are NOT going to invest in Obomo's plan for the future, because there is no future with Obomo's plan! His plan means more big gooberment and more people and business holding their hand out for something free. Socialism is what he represents, open your eyes!

backpasture
03-02-2009, 05:16 PM
You must not own any investments

Wrong, again.



If you call what the business world and investors have displayed since BHO's inauguration "support," I can only imagine what it will take for you to think there is a "lack" of support....:cool:

It's called 'coming to grips with how bad the economy is that Obama inherited'. The stock market most recently has been reacting to a worse than expected report on the decline of GDP from the last quarter of 2008 -- which was before Obama was in office, before the stimulus bill was enacted, etc. And, I think it will get worse before it gets better. Obama can't just fix everything overnight. The reality is, we won't know if it works for months or years, and measuring long term sucess by the short term performance of the stock market is foolhardy. That is exacty the type of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place.


And then you whine and cry when no one (except the usual suspects) joins in lockstep with your points of view....it's really getting old, you puking out the same complaints about "this thread."

I don't recall whining or crying. I DO recall refuting the false premise of this thread, though (that most Americans don't support the stimulus).

My only complaints about "this thread" are that someone trotted out the Hitler/Obama comparisons. I will continue to complain loudly when someone talks compares the President to a Nazi, a Communist, a Terrrorist, etc, etc. It's just nasty, hateful rhetoric, and it deserves scorn.




I really DO hope all this "change" that "the majority of Americans voted for" works.

I agree. If the fix doesn't work, we are screwed. What I don't agree with is the idea that following the same policies that got us into this mess (Republican ideas) will get us out.

Patrick Johndrow
03-02-2009, 05:19 PM
Ok guys.....put the liberals on ignore and/or stop quoting them...this will all be over...or mostly over in a little less than two years.

backpasture
03-02-2009, 05:26 PM
That's right, former Clinton policies inherited by the Bush administration had nothing to do with this downturn.:confused: Of course, Dems Frank and Dodd are innocent too. I'm not denying Bush was off his rocker and I said years ago on this forum Bush's policies in Iraq will harm the GOP for a long time.

But, the Wall St mess is all Obomo's. People with money to invest do NOT like what he has put forth in his CRAP stimulus program and that is why the stock market is continuing to tank. People are taking their money out because people with money know he will ruin our economy with the TRILLIONS he wants to spend on his social aganda. If investors liked Obomo's future, they would he buying cheap and selling long. Right now the attitude is, "lets sell now before he completely ruins our economy and country"! In case you haven't looked, the Dow Industrials are down over 5,000 since the election. People with money and brains do NOT like what comes out of Obomo's mouth and they certainly are NOT going to invest in Obomo's plan for the future, because there is no future!



You're kidding yourself if you think the economy on Wall St and Main St has gone to hell due only to things that have occurred since the election.

I appreciate your understanding that the Iraq war has been disasterous for your party. Personally, though, what concerns me is that it has been disasterous for our country. (I'm sure Wall St is pleased as punch with that boondoggle, which costs more than the stimulus bill and gives us less to show for it.:rolleyes:)

Cody Covey
03-02-2009, 05:33 PM
economic downturn in the 4th quarter of 08....wait that was when the democrats were in charge...damn bush and him somehow being in the house where the finance bills are supposed to come from..

Hoosier
03-02-2009, 06:06 PM
Ok guys.....put the liberals on ignore and/or stop quoting them...this will all be over...or mostly over in a little less than two years.

You my friend are a genius.

Franco
03-02-2009, 06:50 PM
I appreciate your understanding that the Iraq war has been disasterous for your party. Personally, though, what concerns me is that it has been disasterous for our country. (I'm sure Wall St is pleased as punch with that boondoggle, which costs more than the stimulus bill and gives us less to show for it.:rolleyes:)



Cost more than the stimulus bill? No wonder so many Dems are in trouble with the IRS, they can't count.

The Stock Market is about confidence, buying low and selling high. There is NO CONFIDENCE by the folks with money in Obomo's stimulus bill. They see it for what it is; PAYOFFS to the Dems supporters.

Patrick, I hear ya bro but I can't do the ignore button thing. I'm trying to discover what it is that they like about their Dem leaders and their plans. None of them have been able to defend any of it because they are so busy defending their messenger.

One thing about polls; whoever is asking the questions can control the results. Gallup use kids right out of college as pollsters. That should tell everyone why there is little credibility with them. Gallup and other pollsters probably fill their entire Affirmative Action quotas when they hire these kids.

badbullgator
03-02-2009, 06:57 PM
Ok guys.....put the liberals on ignore and/or stop quoting them...this will all be over...or mostly over in a little less than two years.

No doubt, how can i ignore the little.... if you guys keep quoting his crap

K G
03-02-2009, 07:34 PM
I won't ignore them....the street runs both ways....I just wish they had enough confidence in their argument to identify themselves with a real name....

kg

Gun_Dog2002
03-02-2009, 11:48 PM
I won't ignore them....the street runs both ways....I just wish they had enough confidence in their argument to identify themselves with a real name....

kg

But that is how they are. To reveal themselves would require accountability and ownership and as BP has continued to demonstrate dems refuse to acknowledge their part in today's crisis. Its just to easy to blame bush...


/Paul

badbullgator
03-03-2009, 07:44 AM
I don't see anything in the article that calls into question the FACT that the majority of Americans favor the stimulus bill. I wouldn't say that it is a *small* minority that opposes it, but it is still a minority.


As it turns out, people across the political spectrum are responding favorably to President Obama and his proposals:
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/w2ju9kmibemflok-vl2qcw.gif

Even 42% of your fellow Republicans approve of President Obama's performance. And, of course, the majority of Democrats and Independents do as well.

You can see the full results of the latest Gallup poll here:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx


INteresting DH, er uh I mean BP, that your boys numers at this point are only worse then the the higest rated president at this point in their admin......hold on.....Jimmy Carter, AND about the same as your favorite......GWB. Hummm on the same par as GW and a little worse than GW, you must be proud

road kill
03-03-2009, 07:48 AM
INteresting DH, er uh I mean BP, that your boys numers at this point are only worse then the the higest rated president at this point in their admin......hold on.....Jimmy Carter, AND about the same as your favorite......GWB. Hummm on the same par as GW and a little worse than GW, you must be proud

Liberals have NO pride!!

(or shame)

backpasture
03-03-2009, 10:13 AM
Cost more than the stimulus bill?

Sorry, but those are the facts. You can put the facts on your 'ignore list', but they are still the facts.

Franco
03-03-2009, 01:29 PM
The current administration is closing in on 4 TRILLION in spending and they are not through yet! The Dems have had a majority now for over 2 years.

P S I am not a Republican. I consider myself an Independent because I do not agree with many of the Repubs stand on social issues. But, I would take the Repubs anyday over the socialist policies of the Dems. I am a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.

backpasture
03-03-2009, 01:35 PM
The current administration is closing in on 4 TRILLION in spending and they are not through yet!


I think you are confusing the size of the budget (in total) with the increase over the the previous budget.

Also, you are probably forgetting that Obama's budget actually includes the cost of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, which were 'off the books' under the Bush Adminstration's Enron-style accounting, and so were never included as part the actual budget.

Cody Covey
03-03-2009, 03:07 PM
i could be wrong and will certainly accept if i am but isn't war spending supposed to be "off the books" as compared to the rest of the budget

willing to be wrong on this one, regards~

Raymond Little
03-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Was in GWB's Admin but included in the Messiah's admin.
So much easier for him to play the shell game.:monkey: