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j towne
03-26-2009, 09:37 PM
Steelers to lose Super Bowl Trophies

Pittsburgh, PA. The Super Bowl XLIII Champion Pittsburgh Steelers, the only team to win six titles, will soon be losing half of those trophies. After a meeting between NFL Commissioner Rodger Gadel and President Barack Hussein Obama, Obama decided to redistribute half of their Steeler Super Bowl victories and trophies to less fortunate teams in the league.

?We live everyday in the country that invented the Super Bowl.? said Obama ?We are not about to lose this Great American tradition in the wake of these difficult times.? Obama?s plan calls for the Steelers, who are a successful NFL team, to give half of their Super Bowl trophies to teams that are not successful or have not been as successful as the Steelers. ?The Detroit Lions are just as much a part of the same fiber of the NFL as the Steelers and they should, no rather will, be entitled to a Super Bowl Trophy as well.? Obama explains in his plan that he has imposed on Godel and the NFL.

The Pittsburgh Steelers, who by virtue of hard work, excellent team play, stellar draft choices, responsible investing of free agents, careful hiring of coaches and excellent community service and commitment to their fans, has prospered greatly during the past 30 years and have won six Super Bowl Trophies. But President Barack Hussein Obama?s plan calls for the Pittsburgh Steelers to carry the larger burden of the NFL?s less successful teams. Obama went on to further proclaim, ?In these difficult times we are all in this to work together. We must reclaim the NFL Championship Dream for every team, for every city and for every fan.?

?My plan will not affect 31 of the 32 teams in the league.? Obama assures. That?s over 95 percent of the teams in the NFL will not have to worry about losing any Super Bowl Trophies. ?The worst teams in the NFL and the teams that can?t seem to get a break and win a championship will no longer have to worry about going without a title.? Obama promises. ?We are a country and league of hope. We all need to make a change. It does not matter the color of the teams uniforms, the personal decisions that the teams make or their performance but rather if they are a member of this great American league.?

The Super Bowl XLIII trophy will be redistributed to the 0-16 Detroit Lions. Through no fault of their own incompetence, the Lions could not manage a victory all season and this trophy will help ease the pain of their lack of performance and give them hope once again. The redistribution of Super Bowl XL trophy will go directly to the Steeler?s division rival the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals who also have fallen on hard times have never won a Super Bowl. This victory will bring a smile to hundreds of Bengal fans all over the world as they can now celebrate. Finally, one of the Steeler?s two Super Bowl victories over the Dallas Cowboys will go back to the Cowboys since the league needs to provide hope in the face of difficulty and provide hope in the face of uncertainty. This is a heavy burden for the Steelers but together we can all prosper.

All hope is not lost for Pittsburgh fans; Barack Hussein Obama has another plan in place. Obama has met with MLB and commissioner Bud Selig on a similar plan. The New York Yankees will redistribute two of their World Series trophies to the Pittsburgh Pirates as a supplement to their losing 16 straight seasons and counting. This plan will help stimulate the Pirates and enable them to regain the American Dream. Barack Hussein Obama will be meeting with the NHL and Michael Phelps in the upcoming weeks as this issue is high on his agenda for ?Hope and Change.?
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K G
03-26-2009, 10:12 PM
This is too funny....:D

kg

Illinois Bob
03-26-2009, 11:48 PM
I wonder if there is any way to help out the Vikings too.Can't some of those other teams with more than one trophy chip in ? It's only fair.

Richard Halstead
03-27-2009, 02:28 AM
Via Robert, this is a spoof, but based on Obama’s actions lately, I wouldn’t rule something like this happening.

This was on the top of the web page. If they, Steelers, were too lose 3 than I would expect the 0-16 Detroit Lions and I think both Buffalo and Vikings are 0-4. Plus has Buffalo has the only running back murderer in the Hall of Fame, a huge albatros for them.

YardleyLabs
03-27-2009, 06:52 AM
What's funniest about this is that it centers on a business that is one of the closest things to pure socialism in our country.

We have a government sanctioned monopoly -- the NFL -- where games are played in stadiums that are primarily financed by public funds (justified by the general "economic" benefits associated with having a team).

The primary sources of revenues -- broadcast rights -- are negotiated collectively by the NFL acting on behalf of the individual teams. Revenues are then divided without regard to where they were generated to provide each team with its base revenues. The amount of money each team can then pay for players is capped at a level affordable to all teams as one of many actions to make teams more competitive. The total amount is negotiated with the players' union along with minimum (but very generous) pay scales that stipulate the lowest amounts players may be paid based on their years of experience and otherwise unrelated to performance.

Recruitment is strictly regulated to prevent the players from selling their talents to the highest bidder and to prevent teams from using their economic power to purchase a talent advantage. Many owners continue to complain that free agency is destroying the game by permitting players more negotiating leverage. However, the effect is contained by the overall salary caps. In fact, the worst performing teams get first crack at the best players.

Why is all this done? Because the owners believe that it is collectively more profitable in the long run to help all teams to be competitive rather than to let the best teams secure their leadership positions by leveraging their economic power.

Goose
03-27-2009, 07:48 AM
The Detroit Lions should get at least one Steeler trophy but maybe we should also remove from the Hall of Fame some of the Steeler players and add players of lesser abilities...preferably football players who are also democrats or commies.

And maybe the NFL should consider a small patch of Dear Leader on uniforms this year.

Steve
03-27-2009, 08:11 AM
Why is all this done? Because the owners believe that it is collectively more profitable in the long run to help all teams to be competitive rather than to let the best teams secure their leadership positions by leveraging their economic power.

What you seem to miss is that teams have to play each other for the league to exist. P&G doesn't need Colgate to exist to sell its product. McDonald's won't open two stores next to each other. NFL teams are not individual corporations, but more like franchises who are individually owned, but restricted by the franchise owner.

If all unions worked the way the player's union works, then there wouldn't be an issue with unions. They collectively bargain certain things, but an individual will make his own contract and be evaluated on his merits. In most unions, people are paid the same amount regardless of one's productivity. There is no incentive to perform and what often happens is hard workers are bullied into slowing down. Another example of the leftist version of "survival of the weakest"

Illinois Bob
03-27-2009, 09:42 AM
If Obamas' new NFL plan is to be really fair he will first have to redistribute the existing 43 trophies around the league equally so that each team has one.There are currently 5 teams that have never been to the Super Bowl and a fiew that have but never won.After this there will be 11 extra trophies.Obama will need to have 21 new trophies made.This will help to stimulate the economy in addition to keeping things fair.Now that each team,regardless of thier performance,will have two trophies each.After that is done,32 trophies will be awarded at the end of each season,one to each team,from now on.Only the fans that have sky boxes will pay higher ticket prices to offset the cost of this new plan.

Matt McKenzie
03-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Jeff,
The NFL is one business with 32 franchises. Its competitors are all other professional and college sports as well as all other Sunday (and Monday night) entertainment options. Pretty much free-market competition. So far, they've done a pretty good job of competing.

Franco
03-27-2009, 10:07 AM
No one forces us to watch or attend any of the games.

We have no options in regards to higher taxes, socialized medicine and bumbling bureacrats that the uneducated and socialist vote into office!

We need voter reform!

YardleyLabs
03-27-2009, 10:10 AM
Jeff,
The NFL is one business with 32 franchises. Its competitors are all other professional and college sports as well as all other Sunday (and Monday night) entertainment options. Pretty much free-market competition. So far, they've done a pretty good job of competing.
Yes, I know how the NFL is organized. And it is very much a socialist model.

The anti-trust exemptions that have been provided to all the professional sports have to do with protecting the franchises from charges of restraint of free trade based on the manner in which they limit the mobility of labor. There have also been questions of anti-trust litigation over time from cities that wanted a franchise but were not granted one.

Professional football actually existed for over 20 years before it was organized into franchises with the creation of what subsequently became the NFL. However, the sport did not thrive because there was no way to structure effective competition among the teams.

In a similar manner, our economy does not realize the advantages of a market economy in the absence of competition. Accordingly, the greatest involvement of government in business is to prevent business practices that stifle competition. That is not socialism; it is the protection of capitalism.

I have no problem with the way that professional sports are organized in our country. I simply found it ironic that this thread was using the NFL to illustrate how socialism might work if applied to the sport. The irony is that the whole sport is based on a socialistic redistribution of resources from the stronger teams to the weaker teams.

Franco
03-27-2009, 10:17 AM
There are no laws preventing the start up of another league. As I remember, many NFL players jumped to the USFL for more dough.

One can't blame the NFL for being first and setting the standard and if they are strong enough to dictate terms to state governments, so what!

Matt McKenzie
03-27-2009, 10:27 AM
Yes, I know how the NFL is organized. And it is very much a socialist model.

The anti-trust exemptions that have been provided to all the professional sports have to do with protecting the franchises from charges of restraint of free trade based on the manner in which they limit the mobility of labor. There have also been questions of anti-trust litigation over time from cities that wanted a franchise but were not granted one.

Professional football actually existed for over 20 years before it was organized into franchises with the creation of what subsequently became the NFL. However, the sport did not thrive because there was no way to structure effective competition among the teams.

In a similar manner, our economy does not realize the advantages of a market economy in the absence of competition. Accordingly, the greatest involvement of government in business is to prevent business practices that stifle competition. That is not socialism; it is the protection of capitalism.

I have no problem with the way that professional sports are organized in our country. I simply found it ironic that this thread was using the NFL to illustrate how socialism might work if applied to the sport. The irony is that the whole sport is based on a socialistic redistribution of resources from the stronger teams to the weaker teams.

I see your point.

badbullgator
03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
I see your point.

The point is that Jeff will argue ANYTHING ;-):D

I think I would fall on the floor and die if I ever opened a thread like this and Jeff had nothing but :D:D to post in agreement.
Hey jeff the sky is blue

Franco
03-27-2009, 11:58 AM
BBG, the socialist will probabaly want LSU and Florida to give up one of thier two each BCS National Championship trophies too! One will go to the Pac 10 and the other to the Big 10.:-P

sinner
03-27-2009, 12:06 PM
If you have not played, or worked in the NFL or the old AFL (pre 1964) or are not one many retired players and workers you are the blind being lead by the blind.
The lead story left out the merger of the NFL & AFL.

YardleyLabs
03-27-2009, 12:31 PM
The point is that Jeff will argue ANYTHING ;-):D

I think I would fall on the floor and die if I ever opened a thread like this and Jeff had nothing but :D:D to post in agreement.
Hey jeff the sky is blue

My kids would probably agree, and my ex-wife definitely would :D:D

Steve
03-27-2009, 02:19 PM
Yes, I know how the NFL is organized. And it is very much a socialist model.

In a similar manner, our economy does not realize the advantages of a market economy in the absence of competition. Accordingly, the greatest involvement of government in business is to prevent business practices that stifle competition. That is not socialism; it is the protection of capitalism.

How many other franchises require the existence of each other to exist. If a restaurant in one city fails it has no impact on the success of the others. The NFL needs the teams to exist to maintain the quality of the product.

I do get your point that they already distribute resources. I don't understand why they won't step in and do something about Mike Brown. The Bengals were a competitive team, having been in two Superbowls before Paul Brown died. Since his loser son took over they are possibly the most inept team out there with maybe the exception of the Lions.

Anti trust is another issue. It sounds good in theory, but is a joke in practice. The best thing they could do would be to allow easy entry into the market, but excessive government regulations achieve the opposite.

YardleyLabs
03-27-2009, 02:43 PM
In the NFL today, there are three areas where competition remains unfettered:


Host city generosity: Obviously no team can survive without active support from its host city
Owner competence/incompetence: Some guys never get it right. That was a Philadelphia problem for a long time (fortunately corrected). The Bengals are on the short end of the stick. Ultimately, the team is private property and the NFL has little ability to force an ownership change.
Coaching staff: While there are caps on player payroll, there are no caps on spending for other things. If the owner is bad, the coaching staff will probably follow suit. Even with a good owner, however, a wealthy market team can usually outspend a poorer market team, although a wealthy owner can balance that out for a short time.

zeus3925
03-27-2009, 06:19 PM
Socialism is alive and well in pro-sports. Billionaire owners want huge amounts of public money for stadiums to show off their millionaire players. They don't want to pay any rent either. We all ought to band together. Maybe we could get some of that public dough for trial grounds.

YardleyLabs
03-27-2009, 06:28 PM
Socialism is alive and well in pro-sports. Billionaire owners want huge amounts of public money for stadiums to show off their millionaire players. They don't want to pay any rent either. We all ought to band together. Maybe we could get some of that public dough for trial grounds.

You may have trouble finding a couple of judges willing to set up a test that can be enjoyed by 65,000 people in the gallery.:p

In Philadelphia the owner is not a billionaire, although he has done very well. The team paid the majority of the cost of the stadium which remains owned by the government. The government receives the profits from concession stands to pay off the bonds. All in all I don't think it was a bad price to pay for something generating a couple of million money spending visitors to the city each year. I wasn't crazy about the price I had to pay for two lower level seat licenses. However, when I sold them at the beginning of this year because the games all conflicted with trial dates, I was able to make a 300% profit after five years of ownership. Not too shabby for me and seat licenses ended up covering a substantial portion of the construction cost.

Matt McKenzie
03-27-2009, 08:12 PM
Socialism is alive and well in pro-sports. Billionaire owners want huge amounts of public money for stadiums to show off their millionaire players. They don't want to pay any rent either. We all ought to band together. Maybe we could get some of that public dough for trial grounds.

It never fails. Power to the people!

badbullgator
03-29-2009, 12:00 PM
Are the packers not owned by the city of green bay, or something like that?