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Matt McKenzie
04-01-2009, 04:57 PM
Lots of folks tossing the word, "greedy" around lately. What exactly is greed? And is it good or bad?

Franco
04-01-2009, 05:35 PM
Definitly bad and considered a deadly sin by some.

Not to be confused with ambition.

T. Mac
04-01-2009, 05:40 PM
In the great state of California, greed is food stamp benefits going up 13% while unemployment benefits go up 5.5% and the working stiffs are taking pay cuts and furloughs. Oh, did I mention that electricity rates are also going up 13% because of the recession (everyone has cut way back on electricity usage, especially the closed big box store) and the state requires that the utilities MUST have 25% of their electricity coming from renewable sources.

T. Mac

Patrick Johndrow
04-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Definitly bad and considered a deadly sin by some.

Not to be confused with ambition.

“An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth” per Webster
I know wealthy people who are anything but greedy and I know middle income people who are the greediest I know. Greed is NEVER good.

Ambition on the other hand can be good or bad…I know two VERY ambitious people…the guy I know is very ambitious and has created a lot of good with his efforts for himself and everyone around him…but I know one very ambitious woman that does nothing but leave people in her wake. So it just depends….

Matt McKenzie
04-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Who determines "excessive desire" and "more than one needs or deserves"? The government? Popular opinion? The church? The individual?

Do you trust me to determine what you need or deserve? Or to decide if your desire for wealth is excessive? If not me, who do you trust to make that determination?

Marvin S
04-01-2009, 06:18 PM
Greed is sitting at a table with 4 other people & a platter with 6 pork chops. Wanting that 6th pork chop & to h*** with every one else is greed.

Patrick Johndrow
04-01-2009, 06:19 PM
Who determines "excessive desire" and "more than one needs or deserves"? The government? Popular opinion? The church? The individual?

Do you trust me to determine what you need or deserve? Or to decide if your desire for wealth is excessive? If not me, who do you trust to make that determination?



If you have earned it you derserve it...how much do you need? Dont know...maybe it becomes a internal moral issue of "why do you need it?"

Greed is a deadly sin but as far as I know it is not against the law....YET...but I am sure that is coming.

No one can determine that for the individual...YET

Mike Noel
04-01-2009, 06:28 PM
As my good friend Gordon Gekko says "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good."

Terry Britton
04-01-2009, 07:18 PM
Greed is taking everything in front of you, and not leaving any grain behind for the birds, insects and little guy. There is a difference in taking what you are being given, and taking every last crumb.

Greed is also thinking something is yours, and using it up, when you are actually just a steward of the resource for a short amount of time.

In the corporate world we are seeing today, greed is selling the long term strength of the company which hurts the birds, bees and little guys in order to make short term gains. We see in in the management of many unions and corporate boards that have made decisions for the short term gains by selling the long term strength of their companies.

sinner
04-01-2009, 08:27 PM
This is greed from the capitalist at their best!
Priceless!
You wondered why Citi is going broke and need the feds to bail them out!!


This is so priceless, and so, so easy to see happening, customer service being what it is today.

A lady died this past January, and Citibank billed her for February and March for the annual service charges on her credit card, and added late fees and interest on the monthly charge. The balance had been $0.00 when she died, but now somewhere around $60.00. A family member placed a call to Citibank.

Here is the exchange

Family Member: 'I am calling to tell you she died back in January.'

Citibank: 'The account was never closed and the late fees and charges still apply.'

Family Member: 'Maybe, you should turn it over to collections.'

Citibank: 'Since it i s two months past due, it already has been.'

Family Member: So, what will they do when they find out she is dead?'

Citibank: 'Either report her account to frauds division or report her to the credit bureau, maybe both!'

Family Member: 'Do you think God will be mad at her?'

Citibank: 'Excuse me?'

Family Member: 'Did you just get what I was telling you - the part about her being=2 0dead?'

Citibank: 'Sir, you'll have to speak to my supervisor.'


Supervisor gets on the phone:

Family Member: 'I'm calling to tell you, she died back in January with a $0 balance.'



Citibank: 'The account was never closed and late fees and charges still apply.'

Family Member: 'You mean you want to collect from her estate?'

Citibank: (Stammer) 'Are you her lawyer?'

Family Member: 'No, I'm her great nephew.' (Lawyer info was given)

Citibank: 'Could you fax us a certificate of death?'

Family Member: 'Sure.' (Fax number was given )


After they get the fax :

Citibank: 'Our system just isn't setup for death. I don't know what more I can do to help.'

Family Member: 'Well, if you figure it out, great! If not, you could just keep billing her. She won't care.'

Citibank: 'Well, the late fees and charges will still apply.'

(What is wrong with these people?!?)



Family Member: 'Would you like her new billing address?'

Citibank: 'That might help...'

Family Member: ' Odessa Memorial Cemetery , Highway 129, Plot Number 69.'

Citibank: 'Sir, that's a cemetery!'

Family Member: 'And what do you do with dead people on your planet???'

Matt McKenzie
04-02-2009, 07:45 AM
Sinner,
I'm sure most of us have seen that e-mail floating around. Not sure why you need to copy it to three different threads. It doesn't answer either of the questions posed. Feel free to think about the topic and post your thoughts, if you have any.

Pete
04-02-2009, 02:32 PM
Greed is a by product of Love of money,,,which happens to be the root of all evil

The greediest people I have ever met were those on food stamps.

It has nothing to do with how much money you have. It has to do with how much you crave it. Like Lust

Sinner those people who bankedrupted the banks were not capitolists they were thieves,and lyers

The biggest of them all is this liberal government we have.
They want total domination of our money and our thought patterns

Pete