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Legacy 6
04-27-2009, 09:41 AM
Snopes has checked this out... calls it true.

Some employees are simply irreplaceable.

Take Michelle Obama, for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to run “programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting.”

In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000 — nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure had.

Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle!

But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth $317,000?


Source: New York Post, January 24, 2009, Page 17; reprinted from National Review, Feb. 9, 2009, Page 6.

BrianW
04-27-2009, 10:08 AM
But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth $317,000?.

It's obvious to me that Ms. Obama was SO efficient at her job that she did almost 3 times the work annually as expected and so all the work for the next 6 years or so is already done! :rolleyes:

Legacy 6
04-27-2009, 10:24 AM
Can you imagine of she worked there full-time? If she was worth $317K/year working 3 days per week... what's 40 hours a week worth!?

badbullgator
04-27-2009, 10:58 AM
I wish they would just replace her in general. As much as I don;t like bho I tase vomit in my mouth every time I see her on TV. I could make it through 4 years of bho sort of, but really get sick every time i see that .........
family forum regards

Bob Gutermuth
04-27-2009, 04:31 PM
I hope that they are both unemployed at the end of 2012.

Don Smith
04-30-2009, 03:39 PM
In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000 — nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure had.

Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle!

Wonder what she had to give him to secure that earmark. :lol:

BrianW
04-30-2009, 04:40 PM
Heard that a poll by Chicago Tribune showed now that Ms Obama has basically stopped speaking on the issues and more or less confined herself to "hostess duty", her 'approval" ratings have gone up. It said that she appears to deciding what her "cause" will be in this administration.

Sounds like she's following the lead of her husband in trying to hide her "true self/feelings" to get ahead in popular opinion.

Legacy 6
04-30-2009, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I think Ol' Joe should maybe take a step back as well... aka Shut Up!

Had you heard what he said about traveling?? What a moron!

JDogger
04-30-2009, 10:17 PM
Can you imagine of she worked there full-time? If she was worth $317K/year working 3 days per week... what's 40 hours a week worth!?

You might ask the same of many in the financial industry. Many attorneys and coporate exec's earn this type of money. Business as usual, get over it.



JD

Cody Covey
05-01-2009, 01:00 AM
does that mean you are not going to bitch about anything that happens in the future just because it is business as usually Jdogger?

Legacy 6
05-01-2009, 01:48 AM
You might ask the same of many in the financial industry. Many attorneys and coporate exec's earn this type of money. Business as usual, get over it.
JD


First, she's not qualified to be a corporate exec. Second, those who are and earn that type of money WORK FULL TIME! Third, those who are qualified and work full time, aren't getting that kind of money because their husbands are shuffling money toward their wive's company from government contracts from a committee he's on to give her company the money to pay her salary.

Who else in the world who organizes “programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting” makes that kind of money???

Give me ONE example of someone doing that job, working part-time, and earns that much money in an honest way, and I'll get over it. Until then, I'll continue being pissed about someone wasting tax payer dollars for personal gain.

If you're not pissed about that kind of thing, then I guess you can just keep drinking koolaid and become a subject of the USSA.

JDogger
05-01-2009, 03:12 AM
First, she's not qualified to be a corporate exec. Second, those who are and earn that type of money WORK FULL TIME! Third, those who are qualified and work full time, aren't getting that kind of money because their husbands are shuffling money toward their wive's company from government contracts from a committee he's on to give her company the money to pay her salary.

Who else in the world who organizes “programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting” makes that kind of money???

Give me ONE example of someone doing that job, working part-time, and earns that much money in an honest way, and I'll get over it. Until then, I'll continue being pissed about someone wasting tax payer dollars for personal gain.

If you're not pissed about that kind of thing, then I guess you can just keep drinking koolaid and become a subject of the USSA.

Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidley_Austin), where she first met her future husband. At the firm, she worked on marketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing) and intellectual property (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-womanbehind-1) Subsequently, she held public sector (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sector) positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_Chicago), and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization) encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-West-13) She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundraising) records for the organization that still stood a dozen years after she left.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOSS-10)
In 1996, she served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago), where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-UCChron96-36) In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-UChicago2005-37) She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign, but cut back to part time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election;[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-ABCNews20080124-38) she subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-blaze-39) According to the couple’s 2006 income tax return (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_return_(United_States)), Michelle's salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate). The total Obama income, however, was $991,296 which included $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors) of TreeHouse Foods, and investments and royalties from his books.[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOChw-40)
She served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. (NYSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stock_Exchange): THS (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=THS)),[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-TreeHouse-41) a major Wal-Mart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart) supplier with whom she cut ties immediately after her husband made comments critical of Wal-Mart at an AFL-CIO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL-CIO) forum in Trenton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenton,_New_Jersey), New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey), on May 14, 2007.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-SunTimesBlog200705-42) She serves on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Council_on_Global_Affairs).[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-ChicagoCouncil-43)

so, Leg6, Princeton and Harvard Law school doesn't qualify one for corporate position, eh? Kinda discounts GWB's Yale and Harvard Business School background then doesn't it?
BBG thinks her a 'monkey faced gorilla'. And you concur?
Gives credence to Janeane Garofalo's observation on the pathetic tea parties,
"It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly volatile." --

You're in the military, right Leg6? Obama is your CiC. A Guy named Johnson was mine. I was less than thrilled. I got over it and got on with it.
I suggest you do the same.

JD

Don Smith
05-01-2009, 08:03 AM
Gives credence to Janeane Garofalo's observation on the pathetic tea parties, "It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly volatile." -- Janeane Garofalo --- Now there is an authority. The tea parties were clearly a reaction to that administration creating a $9 trillion debt that our grandchildren will have to deal with, 9000 earmarks despite being told during the campaign that he was opposed to earmarks and socializing this country. Yes, they were directed at Obama, but they were also directed at a Congress with the lowest approval rating in history.

Obamanomics - Chains he can believe in.

Julie R.
05-01-2009, 09:21 AM
"It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly volatile." --

You're in the military, right Leg6? Obama is your CiC. A Guy named Johnson was mine. I was less than thrilled. I got over it and got on with it.
I suggest you do the same.

JD

Straight from Al Sharpton's playbook. http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/AlsRaceCard.gif
Jdog, I expected a little better from you than playing Al Sharpton's race card. How about a little personal feedback: I suggest you get over it and get on with it. It's nice that you went to all the trouble to research Michelle's employment history and regularly defend your boy Obomo. But you and your pinko buddies are going to have to come up with something better than the rallying cry that all Obomunists chant when they can't come up with a substantive argument: http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/racist.gif

Your screen name has always reminded me of a rapper name so maybe we should come up with a song for RTF's hip hop group: JDogger and the Race Cards (Jeff, Remington, Cotts & Zeus)
http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/AlsRaceCard.gifhttp://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/AlsRaceCard.gifhttp://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/AlsRaceCard.gifhttp://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr266/MouseOnAFeedsack/AlsRaceCard.gif

JDogger
05-01-2009, 09:53 AM
Julie show me a post where I have defended Obama and maybe just maybe I'll concede that you aren't trully racist

Legacy 6
05-01-2009, 11:22 AM
so, Leg6, Princeton and Harvard Law school doesn't qualify one for corporate position, eh? Kinda discounts GWB's Yale and Harvard Business School background then doesn't it?
BBG thinks her a 'monkey faced gorilla'. And you concur?

You're in the military, right Leg6? Obama is your CiC. A Guy named Johnson was mine. I was less than thrilled. I got over it and got on with it.
I suggest you do the same.

JD

Wow you're self-righteous. You didn't read any of the stuff in her resume did you? You just cut and pasted it.

"public sector positions in the Chicago city government" That's a bit counter-intuitive, don't you think?

"Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies" Cool, sounds like she's channeling more "youth" to work for the government... sweet! More government dependents who really don't do anything except bring in more gov't dependent people.

I think that her LAW degree doesn't have anything to do with what she's been doing since she left the law firm. I don't disagree that a great education qualifies you to branch out in many different directions, not just the one you're specialized in like a lawyer or general practitioner (Doctor). However, what the heck is a "Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies." See comments above.

Despite all that great stuff she's done for Chicago, I believe most of her accomplishments and "fundraising records for the organization that still stood a dozen years after she left" came from her husband channeling tax monies toward organizations directly related to her good works.

You perhaps point to her actions when "she served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. a major Wal-Mart supplier with whom she cut ties immediately after her husband made comments critical of Wal-Mart at an AFL-CIO forum in Trenton, New Jersey, on May 14, 2007." as a display of her bipartisanship. I look at that as withdrawing her financial dowry benefits of her working or sitting committee/board there.

I think if BBG calles her a "monkey faced whatever" that's his opinion, and it's unfair that you put words in my mouth as such.

Furthermore, I am out of the Army, so I can have an opinion now where I couldn't before.

I'm not going to "get over it" until I have a government I can say follows the enumerated and limited powers set out in the US Constitution and the People are as free as the Founding Fathers intended in the Federalist Papers and the Declaration.

If you choose to be "over it" then I guess you can just keep drinking koolaid and continue being a subject and sitting fat and happy until all freedom is taken from the individual by other self-righteous pricks who do things "for your own good."

Legacy 6
05-01-2009, 11:23 AM
Oh, and I forgot. One more thing...

You didn't find anything to cut and paste in an answer for my query. I'll restate: "Give me ONE example of someone doing that [kind of] job, working part-time, and earns that much money in an honest way, and I'll get over it. Until then, I'll continue being pissed about someone wasting tax payer dollars for personal gain."

Legacy 6
05-01-2009, 11:57 AM
Julie show me a post where I have defended Obama and maybe just maybe I'll concede that you aren't trully racist

I don't think you defending PBO has anything to do with if Julie is racist or not... They are unrelated, and frankly insulting to Julie.

That's like saying that if you can prove that I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich in my fridge then that proves you don't have your great-grandmother's ashes on your fireplace mantle...

That you can get pregnant by sitting on a public toilet seat...

That you can save the planet by using mini-florescant bulbs... (which are made in China)

If you have guns you are a domestic right-wing extremist...

If you went to a Tea Party, you hate black people...

If you were a Katrina victim, it was because President Bush hates black people... (remember that one?)

If you're a returning veteran, you are likely to be recruited by right-wing extremist groups...

If a butterfly flaps it's wings in Manhattan, Central Park gets rain instead of sunshine...

And finally, if a groundhog sees its shadow, we get 6 more weeks of winter... I always believed spring came sometime around March 21st...

REESE935
05-01-2009, 12:09 PM
I hust love how we are called the raciest ones.

The raciest ones are the people in congress. They support and help elect a "bi-racial" man into office(but call him black).

They use his race for their political gain.(Everytime someone is against what they are all doing its just raciest against him)

And they paride him around like he is some kind of God.(Name one other president with as much media support in history?) Hell, he had his own channel on Dish Network!!!!!

Really we are the raciest ones??? Please feed that crap to the ones that like $h!t sandwiches.

REESE935
05-01-2009, 12:17 PM
That comment was not meant against anyone on the board!!!

I just love how the smart raciest thing to do is, put a man in power and fill his head with crap. Let him spend 4 years living off his false feed ego, and the whole time run his ass like a puppet on strings.

It very smart, but my morals tell me I just can't do it...

YardleyLabs
05-01-2009, 12:58 PM
I hust love how we are called the raciest ones.

The raciest ones are the people in congress. They support and help elect a "bi-racial" man into office(but call him black).

They use his race for their political gain.(Everytime someone is against what they are all doing its just raciest against him)

And they paride him around like he is some kind of God.(Name one other president with as much media support in history?) Hell, he had his own channel on Dish Network!!!!!

Really we are the raciest ones??? Please feed that crap to the ones that like $h!t sandwiches.

Wow! Even most rants that I disagree with have some foundation of reason behind them. Yours seems to be the exception. How did the "people in congress" become responsible for the election of Obama? I thought the American people elected him, just as the American people elected George W. Bush (in his second try at bat), Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, etc.

Clearly Obama is biracial like almost every black in this country. That he is called black is imprecise but reflects both a cultural and legal tradition in this country where the presence of any black blood was normally sufficient to classify the person as black. In fact, at the time of Obama's birth, the union of his parents violated the laws of several states which persisted in banning "interracial" marriage until it was finally outlawed by the Supreme Court.

Obama's race has been used both for and against Obama since his candidacy was first announced by partisans on both sides. The fact that it seems to have been considered less important to voters than to the pundits and the media is testimony to how far we have progressed as a country since I was young and living in a legally segregated part of the country. Whether one supports or opposes Obama, I would hope that almost all of us would consider that to be a noteworthy milestone.

With respect to media coverage, I believe the track record is mixed. On Fox News and conservative radio talk shows, Obama can do nothing right. He is deemed responsible if a child catches a cold and anything good that does happen is deemed to have happened despite his interference. On MSNBC, the reverse is true and I am reminded repeadedly of the cartoon of Obama walking Bo:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__5hEuddXXnA/SellbC4_hRI/AAAAAAAAAeY/RQiUhjbLNd8/s320/489.gif

The rest of the media reflects its traditional biases -- both conservative and liberal -- but seems less extreme. That Obama's press is still relatively positive is consistent with the treatment afforded most presidents early in their terms (even GWB, who was given almost a complete pass early on and then again after 9/11).

With respect to the question of racism, I believe that almost everyone in America is conscious of race and that it affects our thinking and actions more than most of us would care to admit. Calling people racist in the discussions on this forum is like most other forms of name-calling -- it's more a way of evading a discussion of issues on their merits than it is an argument in its own right. As a personal attack, calling an individual racist violates the terms under which we agree to frame our discussions in the interests of civility on this forum. It is completely inappropriate.

Legacy 6
05-01-2009, 01:04 PM
Yardley, I hardly ever agree with you. Your principles are solid, but your point of view is often in conflict with mine...

But this was great.

*applaud*

However, even though REESE's words were a bit out of form, I think the feelings behind it are valid...

Cody Covey
05-01-2009, 01:25 PM
wow i agree with pretty much everything jeff just said haha