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Richard Halstead
05-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Act first, think second.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090502/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_guantanamo_trials;_ylt=AtQVG7ln.lNSYZzQdKEcO0nZ n414

Patrick Johndrow
05-02-2009, 06:51 PM
Go figure...I wonder when the liberal left is going to feel cheated by this scumbag president they elected?

Gerry Clinchy
05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
Richard, I especially liked this quote at the end of the yahoo article:



"Once you become president and see the whole panoply of issued that you face, some of the things that seemed easy to promise or talk about during the campaign sometimes appear more difficult," Rothstein said Saturday. "Elections are fought on big slogans without much nuance or detail. I think we want a president who responds to what he sees when he actually gets in there and sees the whole picture, rather than one who adheres rigidly to what he said before."


A new way to rationalize why a candidate can say/promise just about anything they want to during a campaign ... and then explain that they didn't know all the facts then, so it's okay to change your mind later.

Whatever happened to "doing your homework?" More discouraging because this candidate is, after all, a lawyer. One would expect that a lawyer would have been able to research this legal issue very thoroughly before making an empty promise; or at least have assigned someone to research it, before shooting from the hip.

Jerry D Herring
05-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Maybe i should run for president hell throw out a bunch of empty promises like ohh we are going to end the war in iraq!!!! and by the way were are sending 50000 more troops to afghanastan. just thought i would end one war to start another...

Richard Halstead
05-02-2009, 08:10 PM
Maybe i should run for president hell throw out a bunch of empty promises like ohh we are going to end the war in iraq!!!! and by the way were are sending 50000 more troops to afghanastan. just thought i would end one war to start another...

Use the same philosophy for your political career...Over Promise then Under Deliver.

Patrick Johndrow
05-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Over Promise then Under Deliver.


and steal a lot of tax payer money too.

Gerry Clinchy
05-02-2009, 09:38 PM
bunch of empty promises like ohh we are going to end the war in iraq!!!! and by the way were are sending 50000 more troops to afghanastan. just thought i would end one war to start another...

I recall that during the McCain/Obama debates Obama kept insisting that a "troop surge" such as took place in Iraq would not be effective in Afghanistan. However, he was simultaneously saying that we were concentrating too much attention on Iraq & not enough to A'stan. Except for willingness to cross the P'stan border to pursue Al Qaeda operatives, he did not specify what *would* be effective in A'stan.

I guess he decided that a lot more troops there would be useful after all. Very clever of him, huh?

badbullgator
05-03-2009, 07:56 AM
I guess bho and the dems that voted for him were the only ones who did not know that things were the way they were for a reason and that reason was for the good of the country. In a perfect wold no war and no need to hold anyone. IN the real world bad people do bad things and you cannot allpy the same rules and idea that you do to the people in the perfect world.........

Bob Gutermuth
05-03-2009, 09:38 AM
What a colossal mistake pfople who voted for Comrade Osama made, and the rest of us are going to have to pay for it.

BrianW
05-03-2009, 10:33 AM
A new way to rationalize why a candidate can say/promise just about anything they want to during a campaign ... and then explain that they didn't know all the facts then, so it's okay to change your mind later.


"There's a big difference between us -- speeches versus solutions, talk versus action. You know, some people may think words are change. But you and I know better. Words are cheap. I know it takes work."
Hillary Clinton speaking about Obama at a General Motors plant in Ohio, February 2008.

Gerry Clinchy
05-03-2009, 10:53 AM
Supreme irony ... the more socialistic the economy would become, the more obsolete unions would become, i.e. the government simply decides what the wages and benefits shall be.

If Obama's goal is to see GM survive, and is willing to fire the CEO to do that, one wonders how far he's willing to go on "trimming" union perks? Eventually, there's no "free lunch".

Hew
05-04-2009, 03:47 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democrats are refusing to pay for President Barack Obama's plan to relocate prisoners from the Guantanamo detention facility where enemy combatants are being held.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97VJKI80&show_article=1

I wish you heathens hadn't run off backpasture before I could collect on my bet that Gitmo wouldn't be closed by the end of this year. ;-)

badbullgator
05-04-2009, 04:02 PM
I wish you heathens hadn't run off backpasture before I could collect on my bet that Gitmo wouldn't be closed by the end of this year. ;-)


He is gone??? Wow the only one on my ignor list and he left......

Hoosier
05-04-2009, 04:41 PM
I wish you heathens hadn't run off backpasture before I could collect on my bet that Gitmo wouldn't be closed by the end of this year. ;-)

I prefer to be called an infidel.

dback
05-04-2009, 07:19 PM
I prefer to be called an infidel.

I gotta go with Hoosier on this one....'Infidel' is contemporary and has a nice ring to it :-)

JDogger
05-04-2009, 08:01 PM
He is gone??? Wow the only one on my ignor list and he left......

Have you considered that maybe you guys are on his ignore list, and he visits PP but never sees any new posts?

JD

Richard Halstead
05-04-2009, 10:37 PM
I gotta go with Hoosier on this one....'Infidel' is contemporary and has a nice ring to it :-)


Geez...I thought you had to be guilty of infidelity to be called an "infadel".:) Wives watch your husbands they might be called "infadels". :)

badbullgator
05-05-2009, 10:29 AM
Have you considered that maybe you guys are on his ignore list, and he visits PP but never sees any new posts?

JD


Either way it works for me, but I know better.......;-)

road kill
05-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I gotta go with Hoosier on this one....'Infidel' is contemporary and has a nice ring to it :-)
What about "Right Wing Extremists'??"

Gerry Clinchy
05-19-2009, 07:22 PM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the latest news on Gitmo.

BHO's budget asked for $80 million for the closing of Gitmo. The $80 mil being to relocate the detainees now held there. That's a bit over $330,000 per detainee, since there are 240 detainees remaining there.

Congress says they're not giving the administration that $80 mil until a plan is presented for relocating the detainees. Small oversight ... if we close Gitmo, what do we do with them?

It was implied that Congress isn't that upset about keeping Gitmo open since the abuses that have made the headlines have stopped. No mention was made of the civil rights legal issues that were the focus previously.

Seems that nobody wants those guys; and nobody has come up with a way to put them somewhere where they can not do any damage. I guess the feeling is that they really are bad guys that shouldn't just be set free.