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Bob Gutermuth
05-25-2009, 10:51 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521617,00.html

What will our Eunuch in Chief do about this crisis? besides blame W?

Goose
05-25-2009, 07:34 PM
Nothing can be done short of a strike and that won't happen because their Dear Leader is tougher than our Dear Leader.

Besides, our guy is too busy to deal with the North Koreans on this Memorial Day. He'd rather play golf.

What a leader!

Roger Perry
05-28-2009, 03:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521617,00.html

What will our Eunuch in Chief do about this crisis? besides blame W?

And, the North Korean's never tested any Nuks when Bush was president? What exactly did Bush do when North Korea did underground testing of Nuclear bombs while he was in office. Hummmm.

road kill
05-28-2009, 03:09 PM
And, the North Korean's never tested any Nuks when Bush was president? What exactly did Bush do when North Korea did underground testing of Nuclear bombs while he was in office. Hummmm.
George Bush is not President.
We are asking what the sitting President will do.
So is North Korea.


The whole world is watching!!

Blaming Bush will not cut it, time to "walk the walk!"

Roger Perry
05-28-2009, 03:59 PM
George Bush is not President.
We are asking what the sitting President will do.
So is North Korea.


The whole world is watching!!

Blaming Bush will not cut it, time to "walk the walk!"

I know that Bush is not president (thank god), I am also waiting to see what Obama will do with the situation in North Korea. I am also aware that Bill Clinton's name comes up quite often and he has not been president for almost 10 years.

Bob Gutermuth
05-28-2009, 04:08 PM
I wish W were still in office, he has cojones, something Osama lacks. Kim Jong Ill is threatening war over these nuke tests, The eunuch in the White House will do nothing except run his gums.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522419,00.html?test=latestnews

achiro
05-28-2009, 04:10 PM
Pay attention, He will do whatever the teleprompter tells him to do.

Roger Perry
05-28-2009, 05:04 PM
I wish W were still in office, he has cojones, something Osama lacks. Kim Jong Ill is threatening war over these nuke tests, The eunuch in the White House will do nothing except run his gums.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522419,00.html?test=latestnews



Again what did Bush do except flap his gums when North Korea was testing nuclear arms?

Roger Perry
05-28-2009, 05:11 PM
I wish W were still in office, he has cojones, something Osama lacks. Kim Jong Ill is threatening war over these nuke tests, The eunuch in the White House will do nothing except run his gums.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522419,00.html?test=latestnews

Let me refresh your memory on what Bush actually did do.

In the weeks before being delisted, North Korea expelled international inspectors, first from its Yongbyon plutonium-reprocessing facility and then from the entire complex. It moved to reactivate Yongbyon and to conduct a possible second nuclear-weapons test, and prepared for an extensive salvo of antiship and other missile capabilities. All of this the Bush administration dismissed as North Korea's typical negotiation style.
The irony is that the DPRK need not have gone to the trouble. President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice were apparently ready to cave in without the show of force, and indeed rushed to announce the terrorism delisting during a three-day weekend. Thus, while the North's macho display was irrelevant, the conclusion Pyongyang will draw is that bluff and bluster worked.

The only upside is that the Bush administration may not have time to concede anything more to Pyongyang before it limps into history. It is hard to see how Barack Obama could do worse.

dback
05-28-2009, 06:02 PM
It is hard to see how Barack Obama could do worse.

In light of where your nasal passages are currentlly residing....I doubt you can see much of anything.

Goose
05-28-2009, 06:31 PM
I hear that Dear Leader is frantic because Vice President Chia Pet broke his teleprompter yesterday!! How will he communicate to his subjects?

Roger Perry
05-28-2009, 06:43 PM
In light of where your nasal passages are currentlly residing....I doubt you can see much of anything.

At least I do not have my head in the sand. I am still waiting to see what Obama does with this situation. I love a good debate. I may not be the sharpest tack in the box but I can take either side and still put up a good debate.

WaterDogRem
05-28-2009, 08:44 PM
At least I do not have my head in the sand. I am still waiting to see what Obama does with this situation. I love a good debate. I may not be the sharpest tack in the box but I can take either side and still put up a good debate.


What are you waiting to see? How do you think the admin has handled it so far? How should the admin handle this? The admin has already said they and Iran should not be allowed to have nuke capability, but haven't done anything about it yet.

Should we wait till they do another nuke test? Another missile test over Japan or farther? Or wait till they have the capabilities to combine the two?

dback
05-28-2009, 10:31 PM
At least I do not have my head in the sand. I am still waiting to see what Obama does with this situation. I love a good debate. I may not be the sharpest tack in the box but I can take either side and still put up a good debate.

If in fact your head is not in the sand then you have proven my point for me. In the 3+ years that I have been here you have never taken any stance other then the ultra-far left.

Here's how I see it....Bush would have liked to have done something about Korea but was saddled with 2 unpopular wars, extremely low ratings/support and possibly/probably the lives of countless South Koreans and Americans to consider (if not more) = hands tied. BO, (my guess is) would like it to all go away. While having extremely high ratings, probably would not have the support since he still has the 2 wars and possibly/probably the lives of countless South Koreans and Americans to consider (if not more) = hands tied.

Now Roger....shock me and give me a far right stance.

Bud Bass
05-28-2009, 11:20 PM
If in fact your head is not in the sand then you have proven my point for me. In the 3+ years that I have been here you have never taken any stance other then the ultra-far left.

Here's how I see it....Bush would have liked to have done something about Korea but was saddled with 2 unpopular wars, extremely low ratings/support and possibly/probably the lives of countless South Koreans and Americans to consider (if not more) = hands tied. BO, (my guess is) would like it to all go away. While having extremely high ratings, probably would not have the support since he still has the 2 wars and possibly/probably the lives of countless South Koreans and Americans to consider (if not more) = hands tied.

Now Roger....shock me and give me a far right stance.

Your right, W was saddled by 2 wars, one unnecessary of his own choosing, the other we had a presence in but was hardly a full scale war because Bush was too pre-occupied with Iraq to worry about the telaban. They surficed as an excuse not to do anything when Korea did their nucular testing. Now we really are saddled with 2 wars, the one in Afganistan which should have been a priority for the last 8 years is now becoming the priority it deserves to crush the talaban, and of course he is trying to get is out of Iraq where we should have never been. What do you propose we do against Korea? Do you want us to go in and do a precision air strike against their nucular development hq, or maybe try and take out their prime minister? Are you prepared for a 3rd war at this time. Sounds like you believe we should react swiftly and forcefully and then think about the consequences later. What the He!!, some of you right wingers just want to blow hot air with little regard for the consequences. Bud

Hew
05-28-2009, 11:50 PM
I may not be the sharpest tack in the box but I can take either side and still put up a good debate.
After just now seeing you take a John Bolton op-ed (yeah, you know the uber neo-con that you love to hate...that John Bolton) and cut and paste it (without attribution or acknowledgement) in support of a point that you're trying to make, I must admit that you are indeed quite the contortionist in finding new ways to continue to answer every knock against Obama with some form of, "Well, Bush did it too." "Good debate?" Perhaps at the Gompers Middle School Model United Nations Club.

JDogger
05-29-2009, 12:13 AM
After just now seeing you take a John Bolton op-ed (yeah, you know the uber neo-con that you love to hate...that John Bolton) and cut and paste it (without attribution or acknowledgement) in support of a point that you're trying to make, I must admit that you are indeed quite the contortionist in finding new ways to continue to answer every knock against Obama with some form of, "Well, Bush did it too." "Good debate?" Perhaps at the Gompers Middle School Model United Nations Club.

Again, Hew is this the best you can do?

Enlighten us, what would Hew do in this situation? Be specific. Outline your plan for the US to deal with N. Korea. Please try to be realistic in your proposals. Previous administrations have wrestled with this problem for quite some time without success. If you have some magic panacea that has been overlooked, please come forward now. The world is waiting.

JD

Hew
05-29-2009, 12:19 AM
As for North Korea...

I don't really know what more Obama/the United States can do/should do than we're already doing and have already done. Obama inherited a nuclear North Korea, just as Bush inherited a nuclear North Korea. Some blame can be laid at Clinton's feet since he a) approved Jimmy Carter to travel to North Korea where that bumbling idiot got his/our pockets picked by the North Koreans, and b) was dumb enough to sign off on Carter's hare-brained negotiated result. But really, when you get down to brass tacks, North Korea has been ruled by some absolutely insane F-R-E-A-K-S who have their fingers wrapped around the throats of the 25 million South Koreans who live within artillery range of the DMZ and there's only so much than ANY president can/should do. No country wants those idiots to have nukes; particularly not China. A nuke-capable North Korea will soon result in a nuke-capable Japan (who are deathly afraid of North Korea...rightfully so). China is deathly afraid of a nuke-capable Japan (again, rightfully so). We've got a seat at the poker table, but those with the most chips on the table are the South Koreans, China and Japan. Let them solve it. In the meantime we should support our South Korean and Japanese allies however they best see fit. Of course, if North Korea tries to export their nuke capacity to other nutbags then we have an obligation to step up the pressure.

JDogger
05-29-2009, 12:31 AM
As for North Korea...

I don't really know what more Obama/the United States can do/should do than we're already doing and have already done. Obama inherited a nuclear North Korea, just as Bush inherited a nuclear North Korea. Some blame can be laid at Clinton's feet since he a) approved Jimmy Carter to travel to North Korea where that bumbling idiot got his/our pockets picked by the North Koreans, and b) was dumb enough to sign off on Carter's hare-brained negotiated result. But really, when you get down to brass tacks, North Korea has been ruled by some absolutely insane F-R-E-A-K-S who have their fingers wrapped around the throats of the 25 million South Koreans who live within artillery range of the DMZ and there's only so much than ANY president can/should do. No country wants those idiots to have nukes; particularly not China. A nuke-capable North Korea will soon result in a nuke-capable Japan (who are deathly afraid of North Korea...rightfully so). China is deathly afraid of a nuke-capable Japan (again, rightfully so). We've got a seat at the poker table, but those with the most chips on the table are the South Koreans, China and Japan. Let them solve it. In the meantime we should support our South Korean and Japanese allies however they best see fit. Of course, if North Korea tries to export their nuke capacity to other nutbags then we have an obligation to step up the pressure.

Thank you for a reasonable, and cognizant answer. I hope others recognize this.

JD

Roger Perry
05-29-2009, 06:55 AM
As for North Korea...

I don't really know what more Obama/the United States can do/should do than we're already doing and have already done. Obama inherited a nuclear North Korea, just as Bush inherited a nuclear North Korea. Some blame can be laid at Clinton's feet since he a) approved Jimmy Carter to travel to North Korea where that bumbling idiot got his/our pockets picked by the North Koreans, and b) was dumb enough to sign off on Carter's hare-brained negotiated result. But really, when you get down to brass tacks, North Korea has been ruled by some absolutely insane F-R-E-A-K-S who have their fingers wrapped around the throats of the 25 million South Koreans who live within artillery range of the DMZ and there's only so much than ANY president can/should do. No country wants those idiots to have nukes; particularly not China. A nuke-capable North Korea will soon result in a nuke-capable Japan (who are deathly afraid of North Korea...rightfully so). China is deathly afraid of a nuke-capable Japan (again, rightfully so). We've got a seat at the poker table, but those with the most chips on the table are the South Koreans, China and Japan. Let them solve it. In the meantime we should support our South Korean and Japanese allies however they best see fit. Of course, if North Korea tries to export their nuke capacity to other nutbags then we have an obligation to step up the pressure.

I agree, that is a good answer. However both Russia and China (North Korean allies) for the first time are in agreement with the United States that something needs to be done about North Korea's nuclear capabilities especially since North Korea underground testing so close to the Russian boarder.

road kill
05-29-2009, 07:46 AM
Your right, W was saddled by 2 wars, one unnecessary of his own choosing, the other we had a presence in but was hardly a full scale war because Bush was too pre-occupied with Iraq to worry about the telaban. They surficed as an excuse not to do anything when Korea did their nucular testing. Now we really are saddled with 2 wars, the one in Afganistan which should have been a priority for the last 8 years is now becoming the priority it deserves to crush the talaban, and of course he is trying to get is out of Iraq where we should have never been. What do you propose we do against Korea? Do you want us to go in and do a precision air strike against their nucular development hq, or maybe try and take out their prime minister? Are you prepared for a 3rd war at this time. Sounds like you believe we should react swiftly and forcefully and then think about the consequences later. What the He!!, some of you right wingers just want to blow hot air with little regard for the consequences. Bud


Yep, Israel really doesn't matter.
So let all the nut jobs have nukes in that area.
Example: "the Obama" is going to let Iran develope the Nuke bomb.
He is holding Israel back.

I am stateing right now that when "Ahmanutjob" drops the nuke in the middle of Israel and 6,000,000 jews are wiped out all you Obama supporters will act like you are shocked and surprised!!

Mark it down, if Iran & Korea continue to go the direction they are GOING you better get ready.
Because you are going to find out what HELL is.
(hell=tough times)
If nukes start getting dropped on the oil fields and ports, we get no oil!!

I wonder sometimes how many of the posters here have ever been in a combat situation?
(since some know so much about how it all works, goes the NY Times said so)
I wonder if the posters (some) who care so much about Al-Queda & the Taliban et al ever think about Israel?
A staunch allie that "the Obama" is spitting on now.

Think it through to the end.
The world does not operate in 30 sound bites.
It goes on and on.