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YardleyLabs
06-10-2009, 02:05 PM
James von Brunn, 88, was just arrested for shooting a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC, placing himself in the same class of self righteous haters as Scott Roeder, the alleged assassin of Dr. George Tiller. May they both live long enough to become prison toys for the big guys.

Obviously, the fact that both of these guys are rght wing conservatives proves that all conservatives are killers, bigots, and terrorists.:rolleyes:

I have found it disgusting that many people, while condemning Roeder's actions then proceed to say how his actions are understandable given Tiller's activities. I'm waiting to see if the same "blame the victim" arguments start being used to "explain" von Brunn's actions.

Keith Farmer
06-10-2009, 03:14 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't James von Brunn a white supremist/racist/anti-semite? Doesn't he have a web site, although it is down as of now, called: www.holywesternempire.org (http://www.holywesternempire.org) ?

The problem will always be a deep hatred of the Jew since they alone are known as God's chosen people. Even Obama has his facts wrong when he says that the Jewish people are in search of a homeland due to the holocaust...scripture tells a completely different story about the plight of the Jewish people.

Barrack Obama's comparison of the suffering of the Palestinians to what Jews endured in the Holocaust culminated in this statement:



"on the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people - Muslims and Christians - have suffered in pursuit of a homeland."


The act of ignorance/violence by von Brunn is tragic...the act of ignorance on behalf of Obama is inexcusable!

Jeff,

I know you have to be jesting about von Brunn being a "right wing conservative"...I really hope you are not that warped?!




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code3retrievers
06-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Jeff,

Your argument is infantile. Are you suggesting the right is going to blame the guard, the holocaust or the museum?

BonMallari
06-10-2009, 04:14 PM
Nut jobs like this von Brunn idiot are the reason many of us have CCW permits, they also get the left inflamed about assault weapons and gun control, I wish someone had stopped this guy with a double tap to the head before he killed the security guard..prayers for the guard's family

Franco
06-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Obviously, the fact that both of these guys are rght wing conservatives proves that all conservatives are killers, bigots, and terrorists.



I wouldn't call either one Conservative. Way to the right of center, yes.

Tiller's murderer should hang when he gets convicted. Brunn should be parachuted over Tehran.

YardleyLabs
06-10-2009, 06:06 PM
For the record, I was definitely jesting about linking either of these two idiots or the idiot killing the army recruiter to any legitimate political group. They are murderers/murderer wannabes and deserve to be treated as such. However, I was serious in my disgust with those who act as apologists for any of these men. Unfortunately, I see too much of that with Tiller's killer.

Bob Gutermuth
06-10-2009, 07:53 PM
Wackos are just that, they are not on the political spectrum when they are that nuts.

Martin
06-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Nut jobs like this von Brunn idiot are the reason many of us have CCW permits, they also get the left inflamed about assault weapons and gun control, I wish someone had stopped this guy with a double tap to the head before he killed the security guard..prayers for the guard's family
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YardleyLabs
06-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Have you ever heard of the Uni-bomber, Bill Ayers, or groups like the Animal Liberation Front. What happened today is horrible and done by a sick person and your turning into an indictment of a political group.

If you move your cursor over that little blue face, it will tell you that it means "roll eyes, sarcastic". :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: As I noted, I would never link such crazies to any particular political group any more than you would link the bombings conducted by the Weathermen (e.g., Ayers) during the Vietnam War to liberals.:rolleyes:

code3retrievers
06-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Jeff,

You are funny. If a candidate for president some 20 years in the future began to hang out with and associate with this shooter, then he should be linked and held accountable for that association.

From your statement I am guessing Obama's link to one of the Weathermen is not an issue for you.

Hew
06-11-2009, 12:38 PM
A lot of the political left has egg on their faces today. After spending yesterday kvetching about how yet another conservative religious nut has struck again, it turns out that von Brunn was an anti-Christian Socialist; one of their own kindred spirit nuts. Shut down the left-wing hate machine! :p

Uncle Bill
06-11-2009, 01:11 PM
A lot of the political left has egg on their faces today. After spending yesterday kvetching about how yet another conservative religious nut has struck again, it turns out that von Brunn was an anti-Christian Socialist; one of their own kindred spirit nuts. Shut down the left-wing hate machine! :p

Hain't dat da troot. But the ignorant yahoos on MSNBC don't even realize they HAVE the egg on their faces.

Pretty much like the left on RTF...so hellbent on destroying the conservatives, they can't see the disaster they are promoting for this nation, in their quest of get-evenism.

Talk about an inbred lot...educated by socialists, and fed the venom of the likes of an Ayers. No wonder they all fall into lock step with that corrupt ACORN outfit.

UB

YardleyLabs
06-11-2009, 06:00 PM
A lot of the political left has egg on their faces today. After spending yesterday kvetching about how yet another conservative religious nut has struck again, it turns out that von Brunn was an anti-Christian Socialist; one of their own kindred spirit nuts. Shut down the left-wing hate machine! :p

From his web site (now shut down but I copied this before it closed):

"James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university where he was president of SAE and played varsity football.

During WWII he served as PT-Boat captain, Lt. USNR, receiving a Commendation and four battle stars. For twenty years he was an advertising executive and film-producer in New York City. He is a member of Mensa, the high-IQ society.

In 1981 Von Brunn attempted to place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest. He was tried in a Washington, D.C. Superior Court; convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in federal prison. (Read about von Brunn's "Federal Reserve Caper" HERE (http://www.holywesternempire.org/fed-caper.html).) He is now an artist and author and lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore."

I'm not sure where you are getting information that he is a socialist, unless you are talking about the Nazi variety.

Hew
06-12-2009, 04:45 AM
I'm not sure where you are getting information that he is a socialist, unless you are talking about the Nazi variety.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35192

YardleyLabs
06-12-2009, 06:28 AM
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35192
As I said, unless you are talking about the Nazi variety. Nothing in his writings, as quoted on the site you reference, suggests that von Brunn had any allegiance to socialist or "leftist" ideals. For as long as there have been fascists, people have argued whether fascism was leftist or rightist. I believe the correct answer is neither; it is totalitarian and statist, but evidences no concern about social equity. It actually is more of a throw back to aristocratic notions of feudalism which seems pretty consistent with von Brunn's leaninigs.

If there is any link between von Brunn and "conservatism" in the US, it would have to rest on the fact that conservatives have allowed themselves to be associated authoritarians and with bigots and those wanting to "purify" our culture. Of course, those same people ignore the fact that our culture was diverse in the 18th century and has remained diverse and changing ever since despite xenophobic moments of hysteria as monoculturalists foretold the horrors of the yellow menace, the black menace, the hispanic menace, the Islamic menace, or maybe even the martian menace. Von Brunn definitely draws his "inspriation" and support from the ranks of the xenophobes.

cotts135
06-12-2009, 06:40 AM
A lot of the political left has egg on their faces today. After spending yesterday kvetching about how yet another conservative religious nut has struck again, it turns out that von Brunn was an anti-Christian Socialist; one of their own kindred spirit nuts. Shut down the left-wing hate machine! :p

First, this guy is a nutjob plain and simple, as is anyone who commits violence in the name of a political cause, This includes the far left who advocate violence in defense of environmental issues. To label this joker a leftist is absurd, virtually everything that is known about him points to his political leanings being far right. I might just as well say it is night when it is clearly day.
I am sure that during the last presidential election this guy couldn't wait to get in the booth and flip that lever next to the Obama name.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bob Gutermuth
06-12-2009, 07:55 AM
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100882

A simple nut job, not so easy to categorize

Hew
06-12-2009, 07:56 AM
If there is any link between von Brunn and "conservatism" in the US, it would have to rest on the fact that conservatives have allowed themselves to be associated authoritarians and with bigots and those wanting to "purify" our culture. Of course, those same people ignore the fact that our culture was diverse in the 18th century and has remained diverse and changing ever since despite xenophobic moments of hysteria as monoculturalists foretold the horrors of the yellow menace, the black menace, the hispanic menace, the Islamic menace, or maybe even the martian menace. Von Brunn definitely draws his "inspriation" and support from the ranks of the xenophobes.
Well isn't that ironic. You accuse conservatives of allowing themselves to be surrounded by bigots and those wanting to "purify" our culture when the very roots of the American eugenics movement (forced sterilization of "undesireables" for the benefit/"purification" of society) sprang out of the soil of liberalism, watered and tendered by a who's who of American liberals.

And speaking of the various multi-colored "menaces"...minimum wage laws in this country were pushed by labor unions/leftists as a means to make the white workers price-competitive with the yellow, black, brown menaces. So let's not pretend that conservatives are the only ones with some racist skeletons in the woodpile. The biggest flaw with conservatism is that they didn't/don't get to write the history books; liberals did/do.

Hew
06-12-2009, 08:10 AM
To label this joker a leftist is absurd, virtually everything that is known about him points to his political leanings being far right.
Really? Perhaps you could tick off a list of what you know about him that makes him "far right."

He's an old, angry white guy who owns some guns and doesn't think very logically. Sound familiar to you? :p

YardleyLabs
06-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Well isn't that ironic. You accuse conservatives of allowing themselves to be surrounded by bigots and those wanting to "purify" our culture when the very roots of the American eugenics movement (forced sterilization of "undesireables" for the benefit/"purification" of society) sprang out of the soil of liberalism, watered and tendered by a who's who of American liberals.

And speaking of the various multi-colored "menaces"...minimum wage laws in this country were pushed by labor unions/leftists as a means to make the white workers price-competitive with the yellow, black, brown menaces. So let's not pretend that conservatives are the only ones with some racist skeletons in the woodpile. The biggest flaw with conservatism is that they didn't/don't get to write the history books; liberals did/do.

My comments concerning the current links between conservatives and some of the cultural purity bigots is a comment of what I believe is a misguided political tactic that has nothing to do with conservatism as a belief. In much the same way, the alliance between Democrats and Southern Democrats was a tactical alliance while it lasted but ended up undermining the Democrat's overall commitments to civil rights. Hubert Humphrey's greatest claim to fame was to reject that alliance leading to the walkout of southern democrats from the 1948 convention. The Eugenics movement of the 1920's was a lot more complex and derived more from a view that science would conquer all than from any specific ideological orientation. That too was an era when "conservatives" were calling for a closing of our borders to keep out those dangerous hordes from Ireland and Italy along with the Bolsheviks who were sure to follow.

cotts135
06-12-2009, 09:14 AM
Really? Perhaps you could tick off a list of what you know about him that makes him "far right."

He's an old, angry white guy who owns some guns and doesn't think very logically. Sound familiar to you? :p

Generally Hew I support my claims with what I believe to be factual correct statements or at least things that are easily provable , in this case I am going to make an exception. It seems to me that you are so encased in a right wing bubble ie (Fox news, Rush Limbaugh etc) that you are unwilling to take your head out of the sand and see what others might be saying. Look around and see what other facts are out there and maybe not just the ones that suit your point of view.

Pete
06-12-2009, 09:42 AM
He a guy who snapped,,,,, sounds pretty patriotic and maby courageous and maby alittle nuts (who's to say) to take on the federal reserve all by himself.

The federal reserve is a foriegn enemy and is neither federal nor has a reserve.

We just accept them now as part of our government. I believe thay had something to do with our now totally ridiculous voluntary federal income tax system started around 1913 or so. I'm sure they inspired Roosevelt s social security scam also and probably were instigaters of the stock market crash. I have no love for them. I also consider them an enemy of this country.



Most of us just go with the flow,,,we complain and never do anything,,,,we think pulling a lever will fix this mess. What a friken joke

This world is messed up,,,we never hear about the hundreds of gang related deaths that happen each day do we? Its run by powerful socialist type people and thats their goal. Grooming the future leaders.

Think about it . We are now globalized. George Orwell must of been a profit.

Anytime you screw with peoples lives you will always run into a few that will put their foot down.

I surely am not condoning what he did last week and think its tragic,,,, but at 88 he figured he might go out with a bang,,,,its to bad the innocent are the ones affected by this whole messs. You know with the attack on the white middle class I'm guessing he is not the only racist around, just a different label. Maby we should just accept our global,socialist country and call it good. Maby Opra will be our next president. What a fun time that would be.

Hows that for a differnt perspective

Pete

Hew
06-12-2009, 10:31 AM
That too was an era when "conservatives" were calling for a closing of our borders to keep out those dangerous hordes from Ireland and Italy along with the Bolsheviks who were sure to follow.
While at the same time liberals were trying to sterilize people they thought were too stupid and criminal (i.e. not white) and starve out the Irish, Italians and other swarthy bohunk types who were already here by instituting minimum wage.

Hew
06-12-2009, 10:32 AM
Generally Hew I support my claims with what I believe to be factual correct statements or at least things that are easily provable , in this case I am going to make an exception. It seems to me that you are so encased in a right wing bubble ie (Fox news, Rush Limbaugh etc) that you are unwilling to take your head out of the sand and see what others might be saying. Look around and see what other facts are out there and maybe not just the ones that suit your point of view.
You could have save a lot of typing by just answering my question with a simple, "uhhhhhh, I don't know."