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achiro
07-06-2009, 05:32 PM
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Colin Powell worries Obama tackling too much

Jul 4, 10:59 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Colin Powell worries that President Barack Obama is trying to tackle too many big issues at one time and he offers this advice: take a hard look at costs and consider the additional red tape that will be created.

"The right answer is, 'Give me a government that works,'" the former secretary of state said in a television interview to be aired Sunday. "Keep it as small as possible," added Powell, who said he has spoken recently with Obama and stays in touch with him. Powell, a Republican, endorsed Obama last year over the GOP presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain.

Obama wants to overhaul the health care system and take on climate change while also helping the country emerge from the recession.

"I think one of the cautions that has to be given to the president - and I've talked to some of his people about this - is that you can't have so many things on the table that you can't absorb it all. And we can't pay for it all," Powell said.

"And I never would have believed that we would have budgets that are running into the multi-trillions of dollars, and we are amassing a huge, huge national debt that, if we don't pay for in our lifetime, our kids and grandkids and great grandchildren will have to pay for it."

It's not a new theme for Powell

He complained about the government's size and intrusiveness in his 1996 speech to the Republican National Convention. He said then that the nation no longer could afford more entitlements, higher taxes and more bureaucracy. In the interview with CNN's "State of the Union" that is to air Sunday, Powell said he hasn't changed his mind.

"Keep it as small as possible. Keep the tax burden on the American people as small as possible, but at the same time, have government that is solving the problems of the people," he said.

He said Obama "has to start really taking a very, very hard look at what the cost of all this is. And, how much additional bureaucracy and will it be effective bureaucracy."

CNN released excerpts of the interview in advance of the broadcast.

My response on the other forum:
I totally agree with Powell here but seriously, WTF did he think was going to happen? There isn't anything happening so far that O didn't talk about doing during his campaign(with more to come). Powell endorsed a candidate that he doesn't agree with policy wise? I'm shocked! http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

road kill
07-06-2009, 05:38 PM
Powell is a baffoon.
He has 0 cred, and is not to be trusted.
This guy changes directions more than my dog on a rooster trail!!

Gerry Clinchy
07-07-2009, 09:11 AM
Personally I think that O has put all this stuff on the table now because he figures he's got a better chance of ramming it through while the polls show him in a favorable light. A new President typically has such a "honeymoon" from criticism, and O is working that to its limit.

While I don't agree with the programs he proposes, his strategy may not be flawed. If the legislators have time to actually read the legislation, they might never pass it. We can note the way the stimulus bill was put through, and how 300 pages added to Cap and Trade in the middle of the night before the voting.

Captain Mike D
07-07-2009, 12:58 PM
Powell is exactly the type of Republican that the party needs to drum out.
Not nearly conservative enough,wants to just get along with the Dems and blames his own as being mean spirited when the Dems are the ones that go for the jugler at every chance. Maybe the big O will choose him to be his next czar of something to shut him up.

Mike

Henry V
07-07-2009, 01:21 PM
Powell is exactly the type of Republican that the party needs to drum out. ...
Mike
Mission accomplished as far as I can tell. Congrats.

Captain Mike D
07-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Mission accomplished as far as I can tell. Congrats.

Good Riddance!!-- now if we can just get McCain, and Lindsey Graham to do the same along with Snow and any others who feel it is there duty(ulterior motives of coarse like money or votes) to step outside the banks with regard to fiscal responsibility, and following the spirit and letter of the law with regard to Illegals and a whole host of other issues.

YardleyLabs
07-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Good Riddance!!-- now if we can just get McCain, and Lindsey Graham to do the same along with Snow and any others who feel it is there duty(ulterior motives of coarse like money or votes) to step outside the banks with regard to fiscal responsibility, and following the spirit and letter of the law with regard to Illegals and a whole host of other issues.
Have at it. With the resulting demise of the Republican Party, or a radical shift of it to the right, space may open for a more moderate centrist party than now exists. The fact is that elections are won from the center. Pushing a party far to the right or left guarantees electoral loss absent gross self destruction by the more centrist candidate. The majority of the population does not care for the true believers on either side.

HuntsmanTollers
07-07-2009, 04:09 PM
As long as Pelosi and Reed are running farther to the left there will be a bigger push to the right. Unfortunately the extremes always make more noise and therefore get more attention. Controversy is news. Being in the "CENTER" or being "MODERATE" maybe in the best interests of the nation but will never be popular with the news agencies and therefore will always have an uphill battle.

YardleyLabs
07-07-2009, 04:10 PM
As long as Pelosi and Reed are running farther to the left there will be a bigger push to the right. Unfortunately the extremes always make more noise and therefore get more attention. Controversy is news. Being in the "CENTER" or being "MODERATE" maybe in the best interests of the nation but will never be popular with the news agencies and therefore will always have an uphill battle.
Unfortunately, I tend to agree. The real media bias is in favor of manufactured controversy.

BonMallari
07-07-2009, 05:02 PM
Powell is exactly the type of Republican that the party needs to drum out.
Exactly, he bends to whatever the pollsters think they want

Not nearly conservative enough,wants to just get along with the Dems and blames his own as being mean spirited when the Dems are the ones that go for the jugler at every chance. Maybe the big O will choose him to be his next czar of something to shut him up.

Mike


Have at it. With the resulting demise of the Republican Party, or a radical shift of it to the right,

the Republican party is not dead and has not shifted to the right, if that were the case we wouldnt have nominated McCain, we would have nominated a Fred Thompson or a Mitt Romney, instead we nominated an over the hill curmudgeon who was just slightly to the right of Arlen Specter. The demise of the party...not yet but is is fractured and in disarray



space may open for a more moderate centrist party than now exists. The fact is that elections are won from the center. Pushing a party far to the right or left guarantees electoral loss absent gross self destruction by the more centrist candidate. The majority of the population does not care for the true believers on either side.

Are you trying to say BHO is a centrist, he is the MOST LIBERAL POTUS we have ever seen;-)
Dont start celebrating yet, the true conservative arm of the party will gain back control and give fiscal conservatives, and social moderates a much needed voice

YardleyLabs
07-07-2009, 06:59 PM
Are you trying to say BHO is a centrist, he is the MOST LIBERAL POTUS we have ever seen;-)
Dont start celebrating yet, the true conservative arm of the party will gain back control and give fiscal conservatives, and social moderates a much needed voice
I actually believe he is more pragmatic and moderate than many of his supporters believed he would be, although still more liberal than the center of public opinion. I think McCain self destructed as a candidate because of the his age, Bush's extreme unpopularity, his own personality, his running mate, his continuous bumbling efforts to appease the more conservative end of the party, and the fact that the American public clearly blamed Bush and Republican policies for the economic collapse. Absent those problems, and especially the last three, he might well have won.

road kill
07-07-2009, 08:09 PM
I actually believe he is more pragmatic and moderate than many of his supporters believed he would be, although still more liberal than the center of public opinion. I think McCain self destructed as a candidate because of the his age, Bush's extreme unpopularity, his own personality, his running mate, his continuous bumbling efforts to appease the more conservative end of the party, and the fact that the American public clearly blamed Bush and Republican policies for the economic collapse. Absent those problems, and especially the last three, he might well have won.


What did he do to appease conservatives?

To the contrary, his efforts to appease the left were disturbing and hurt him!

McCain was far to liberal for any true conservatives liking.

brian breuer
07-07-2009, 08:20 PM
What did he do to appease conservatives?

To the contrary, his efforts to appease the left were disturbing and hurt him!

McCain was far to liberal for any true conservatives liking.

But he had those votes. Palin was to appease the rightwingers. She did zero for the undecided voters. He needed the center but as Franco stated the deck was stacked against him.

Elections are won and lost with the 20% of the middle voters. The other 2 groups of 40% vote the party line. I think I may have stolen that theory from Tom Clancy, but am not for sure.

Steve Amrein
07-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Using the term conservative and McCain in the same sentance makes me laugh.

We had 2 candidates for Presidential election to vote for last election, left and borderline socialist.

Roger Perry
07-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Someone had to vote for McCain in the primaries in order for him to be on the presidential ticket. Looks like the right picked the wrong guy. Hey, I know lets have a do over.

road kill
07-08-2009, 02:24 PM
Someone had to vote for McCain in the primaries in order for him to be on the presidential ticket. Looks like the right picked the wrong guy. Hey, I know lets have a do over.

Roger, why would you want a do over?
Aren't you ecstatic with the results??

Roger Perry
07-08-2009, 02:26 PM
Roger, why would you want a do over?
Aren't you ecstatic with the results??

Why would I be ecstatic. I have said before Obama was not my choice for President.

road kill
07-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Why would I be ecstatic. I have said before Obama was not my choice for President.
Well, I can assure you, McCain was not mine!

Roger Perry
07-08-2009, 02:55 PM
Well, I can assure you, McCain was not mine!

Then it must have been the democrats that were told to change their voter registration and vote for McCain, then change their registration back to democrat.

Damn democrats!

road kill
07-08-2009, 03:08 PM
Roger, I have acknowledged the fact that the world has changed and that this is what the majority want.

I am just not mature enough to accept it!!:D

BonMallari
07-08-2009, 03:43 PM
Someone had to vote for McCain in the primaries in order for him to be on the presidential ticket. Looks like the right picked the wrong guy. Hey, I know lets have a do over.

McCain won many of the primary states that had open voting,many crossed over because they thought he would be the nominee against the front runner at the time ......Hillary Clinton...BHO wasnt always the candidate of choice but when the media went full drive gaga over him it overwhelmed Clinton and the Republicans were stuck with McCain