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Julie R.
07-09-2009, 05:53 PM
It's nice to know our First Lady is setting such a stellar example of frugality.


No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesnít perform any official duties. But this hasnít deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.

How things have changed! If youíre one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:

$172,2000 - Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
$140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$90,000 - Medina, David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
$40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/February2009/130209vogue.jpg
(I don't know who's been waiting for her but I sure wish they'd come get her!)
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652 (http://www.chimpout.com/forum/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcanadafreepress.co m%2Findex.php%2Farticle%2F12652)

badbullgator
07-09-2009, 06:21 PM
So over 3/4 of a million a year to support that @#^$% thing

Marvin S
07-09-2009, 06:32 PM
Do the jobs under 100K have an "all you can steal" fringe benefit?

dnf777
07-09-2009, 08:38 PM
It's nice to know our First Lady is setting such a stellar example of frugality.



http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/February2009/130209vogue.jpg
(I don't know who's been waiting for her but I sure wish they'd come get her!)
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652 (http://www.chimpout.com/forum/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcanadafreepress.co m%2Findex.php%2Farticle%2F12652)

Were all these positions created de novo for M.O.? Did Laura Bush wash her own dishes, or did she have some staffers as well? Where was the outrage with other first ladies?

How much is Laura and her two girls costing us in SS protection? Or is that somehow different?

I think those numbers are outrageous. But so is the selective outrage and hypocrisy.

Richard Halstead
07-09-2009, 09:17 PM
I can see how Obama is getting more jobs to the unemployed. They have become Whitehose staff.

Julie R.
07-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Were all these positions created de novo for M.O.? Did Laura Bush wash her own dishes, or did she have some staffers as well? Where was the outrage with other first ladies?

How much is Laura and her two girls costing us in SS protection? Or is that somehow different?

I think those numbers are outrageous. But so is the selective outrage and hypocrisy.

First things first: I know I sound like a broken record between dnf and Perry et al. So let me type it slower in case you had trouble the other several dozen times this has been posted:

BUSH IS NOT PRESIDENT ANY MORE.
OK that said, yes, the current First Lady has far outspent ANY of her predecessors after just 6 months in office and during desperate times when the country has a 10 percent unemployment rate and businesses shutttering daily.

And I'll be willing to bet you $100 today that when Obongo is no longer president that he, family including spawn and relatives will cost more in SS protection than the Bush family.

Goose
07-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Ms. Armbruster's getting screwed! $36,000 is all she gets? Michelle has handbags worth more than that. Whatever happened to the liberals and their living wage pledge? Sally could make more money mowing lawns.

dnf777
07-10-2009, 05:00 AM
First things first: I know I sound like a broken record between dnf and Perry et al. So let me type it slower in case you had trouble the other several dozen times this has been posted:

BUSH IS NOT PRESIDENT ANY MORE.
OK that said, yes, the current First Lady has far outspent ANY of her predecessors after just 6 months in office and during desperate times when the country has a 10 percent unemployment rate and businesses shutttering daily.

And I'll be willing to bet you $100 today that when Obongo is no longer president that he, family including spawn and relatives will cost more in SS protection than the Bush family.

I'll type slow too...neither is Clinton or Carter, care to count the references on this list? Clinton even joked several years into the W regime, that when he turned on the news, he thought he was still president!

The reason bush keeps coming up, is that we (and our children and grandchildren) will be suffering the effects of his failed presidency for generations to come. And those who have lost loved ones in his unjust war in Iraq will suffer endlessly.


BTW, how much of my tax dollars went to an 85yo to jump out of a US ARMY airplane, with full escorts and Security? (I have the utmost respect for the senior Bush, who actually served his country) But I didn't want you to miss out on any outrage, while you're fired up.

road kill
07-10-2009, 06:39 AM
I'll type slow too...neither is Clinton or Carter, care to count the references on this list? Clinton even joked several years into the W regime, that when he turned on the news, he thought he was still president!

The reason bush keeps coming up, is that we (and our children and grandchildren) will be suffering the effects of his failed presidency for generations to come. And those who have lost loved ones in his unjust war in Iraq will suffer endlessly.


BTW, how much of my tax dollars went to an 85yo to jump out of a US ARMY airplane, with full escorts and Security? (I have the utmost respect for the senior Bush, who actually served his country) But I didn't want you to miss out on any outrage, while you're fired up.

You are generaly the master at lame pointless comebacks blaming Bush for everything.

Burt this has set a new standard.:rolleyes:

Better luck next time, your better than this one!!:D

Gerry Clinchy
07-10-2009, 07:01 AM
How much is Laura and her two girls costing us in SS protection? Or is that somehow different?


I think it is different. SS protection for former POTUS and family are SOP. Since O and family are quite young, we'll be paying for many more years for their family.

The # of assistants hired for a First Lady would be discretionary.

Is there a budget assigned to First Lady expenses? Is it part of the White House overall budget? If there is no budget for these expenses, why not?

And I would agree, how can those staffers earning less than $50K/year afford to live in DC?! Are some of those jobs "part-time"?

WindyCreek
07-10-2009, 07:16 AM
With regard to former Presidents Secret Service Protection -- In 1997, Congress enacted legislation that limits Secret Service protection for former presidents to ten years after leaving office. Under this new law, individuals who were in office before January 1, 1997 will continue to receive Secret Service protection for their lifetime. Individuals entering office after that time will receive protection for ten years after leaving office. Therefore, former President Bill Clinton will be the last president to receive lifetime protection, and former President George W. Bush is the first to receive protection for only ten years (until 2019).

Hew
07-10-2009, 07:18 AM
Were all these positions created de novo for M.O.? Did Laura Bush wash her own dishes, or did she have some staffers as well? Where was the outrage with other first ladies? From an article I read yesterday the salaries of Michelle Obama's staff is nearly 3X what Laura Bush's was.

How much is Laura and her two girls costing us in SS protection? Or is that somehow different? Yeah, that's somehow different. One is a coterie of strap hangers and flacks and the other is a staff to protect the lives of an ex-First Family from very real threats. One is unprecedented in its size and expense and the other is a traditional expense that is afforded to all ex-Presidents. One represents a near-trippling of frivolous expense in a time of want and wreaks of a "let them eat cake" mentality and the other is an understandable expense that will be spent on every future president's family. Just holler if you need further help wrappin' your brain around the distinctions between the two.

I think those numbers are outrageous. Oh yes, we can tell you're absolutely outraged. Fit to be tied. Madder than a hatter. But so is the selective outrage and hypocrisy. LOL. That's rich coming from a self-proclaimed conservative who can't seem to find much outrage, selective or otherwise, in anything Obama does.
..........

dnf777
07-10-2009, 08:06 AM
"Just holler if you need further help wrappin' your brain around the distinctions between the two."

Ok, where does SS protection for two underage girls night-clubbing and drinking fall on your scale of appropriatness? (I'm not picking on children...those pictures are part of the public record, they made availabe.)

Oh, I forgot, they are part of the "Bush can do no wrong" club!
I gotta work, now that we're past May, the money I earn goes to me, not paying down W's massive-gov't debt he ran up, so large in fact, they had to add another digit to the national debt scoreboard!!! There's a fiscally conservative observation for you!

Roger Perry
07-10-2009, 08:08 AM
Nearly $100 Million Unaccounted For in Iraq




The United States government cannot account for Nearly $100 million in cash and millions of dollars worth of equipment that were sent to Iraq since the American led-invasion of that country in 2003.

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2005/May/EEN427a2eb3ec0b4.html

I'll bet if that money was found, it would pay for staffers for at least the next oh 8 years or so. ;)

badbullgator
07-10-2009, 08:44 AM
"Just holler if you need further help wrappin' your brain around the distinctions between the two."

Ok, where does SS protection for two underage girls night-clubbing and drinking fall on your scale of appropriatness? (I'm not picking on children...those pictures are part of the public record, they made availabe.)

Oh, I forgot, they are part of the "Bush can do no wrong" club!
I gotta work, now that we're past May, the money I earn goes to me, not paying down W's massive-gov't debt he ran up, so large in fact, they had to add another digit to the national debt scoreboard!!! There's a fiscally conservative observation for you!


LEt's see kid don't decide dad will be potus do they? Kids do what kids do and kids that age do clubs, pretty sure the same is true for the Carter girl and the Clinton girl. As has been pointed out SS protection is a coast that goes across the board and it not exclusive to either party. A world of difference between protecting the lives of those who serve and their families and spending like a queen on staff, dresses, ........ apples to rocks

Oh and BTW- as pointed out GW is out of office. You should actually be happy that you only have to work till may to pay for the debt.....next year, and for years to come obongo is going to have you working year round to pay for his spending in just his first 6 months

Julie R.
07-10-2009, 08:51 AM
Oh, I forgot, they are part of the "Bush can do no wrong" club!
I gotta work, now that we're past May, the money I earn goes to me, not paying down W's massive-gov't debt he ran up, so large in fact, they had to add another digit to the national debt scoreboard!!! There's a fiscally conservative observation for you!


And yet, you seem so sanguine about the fact that the current Dear Leader has already FAR outpaced what Bush spent in 8 years not 6 months into his administration. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one here was defending Bush policies or calling him a fiscal conservative. However, compared to what's going on now, he's beginning to look like one. And I include in that the frivoulous expenses for Club Michele, at a time when many are struggling just to put food on the table.

Same message to Roger: If I was as addicted to surfing the net as you are to show us you can't let go of your Bush-Hate, I'm sure I could find $100 mil. of Obongo cash missing. There's at least that much unaccounted for from the banks he bailed out.

Roger Perry
07-10-2009, 09:03 AM
And yet, you seem so sanguine about the fact that the current Dear Leader has already FAR outpaced what Bush spent in 8 years not 6 months into his administration. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one here was defending Bush policies or calling him a fiscal conservative. However, compared to what's going on now, he's beginning to look like one. And I include in that the frivoulous expenses for Club Michele, at a time when many are struggling just to put food on the table.

Same message to Roger: If I was as addicted to surfing the net as you are to show us you can't let go of your Bush-Hate, I'm sure I could find $100 mil. of Obongo cash missing. There's at least that much unaccounted for from the banks he bailed out.

I don't have to spend a lot of time surfing the net. However, you do more than your share of cuting and pasting.

dnf777
07-10-2009, 09:27 AM
And yet, you seem so sanguine about the fact that the current Dear Leader has already FAR outpaced what Bush spent in 8 years not 6 months into his administration. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one here was defending Bush policies or calling him a fiscal conservative. However, compared to what's going on now, he's beginning to look like one. And I include in that the frivoulous expenses for Club Michele, at a time when many are struggling just to put food on the table.

Same message to Roger: If I was as addicted to surfing the net as you are to show us you can't let go of your Bush-Hate, I'm sure I could find $100 mil. of Obongo cash missing. There's at least that much unaccounted for from the banks he bailed out.

Quite the contrary. I just don't see the need to voice those concerns here, because they're already well represented. I think the first lady post was a cheap shot, like me complaining about footing the bill for GHWB jumping out of a plane. I said that to make a point.

Like it or not, the American presidency has evolved into an "American Royalty". (and I don't like it) We have, and will continue to pay for our royal families during and after their regimes are up.

And just to set the record straight, Obama has not had a budget approved and signed into law yet. Not one penny of our $11 trillion debt is attributable to him. (yet) Sorry, that's just the facts that we were left with.

I'm not interested in defending irresponsible spending when it comes from Obama, and I"m not willing to gloss over the world-record economic turnaround that Bush subjected us to. We'll be feeling it for generations, and that's NOT what conservatism is about. Is it?

And I'll apologize yet a third time, for not fitting the perfect little conservative stereotype. But be as it may, if I don't fit perfectly, kick me out and label me liberal....look where that attitude got the GOP in NOvember.

Julie R.
07-10-2009, 09:43 AM
dnf, and Roger Perry, I didn't label either of you anything, I didn't even dispute the title of conservative you applied to yourself, dnf. Although I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders why whenever anyone (not just me) posts anything negative about Obongo and minions wasteful spending/buffoonery/inept bumbling both of you go back and start trashing Bush. Bush is the reason both of you voted for Obongo and you won, you got your man, now enjoy him: the good and the bad. :D

Hew
07-10-2009, 09:46 AM
And just to set the record straight, Obama has not had a budget approved and signed into law yet.
Got Google?

dnf777
07-10-2009, 09:56 AM
dnf, and Roger Perry, I didn't label either of you anything, I didn't even dispute the title of conservative you applied to yourself, dnf. Although I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders why whenever anyone (not just me) posts anything negative about Obongo and minions wasteful spending/buffoonery/inept bumbling both of you go back and start trashing Bush. Bush is the reason both of you voted for Obongo and you won, you got your man, now enjoy him: the good and the bad. :D

That was not directed at you. I just wonder where was the outrage when this spending was going on for the past 8 years? It makes me wonder of the sincerity of it all, since it just popped up since January? Makes me wonder if its not just partisan politics? I give credit and blame where its' due, not just along party lines. For example, (if I may make a point) Laura Bush spent just under $500,000 on china for the white house. I don't care to pick on her, she's honorable, and just doing what every first lady since Jackie O has done. But I wonder why just now, there's indignation at such spending? me thinks its partisan. And that's fine.

I find it interesting, that just because I call W on his irresponsible massive expansion of the federal gov't and spending, like a good conservative should....I was informed in your post that I voted for Obama???? News to me, and I thought I pulled the curtain closed when I voted my secret ballot. Guess someone was peeking, although they didn't get an accurate look.

cheers,
Dave

Hew
07-10-2009, 10:09 AM
For example, (if I may make a point) Laura Bush spent just under $500,000 on china for the white house. I don't care to pick on her, she's honorable, and just doing what every first lady since Jackie O has done. But I wonder why just now, there's indignation at such spending? me thinks its partisan. And that's fine.
Given that not one thin dime of public money was spent on the China I don't know what there is to be indignant about.

Gerry Clinchy
07-10-2009, 10:17 AM
It goes without saying that each new administration is faced with handling the baggage of the previous administration. At some point, however, each administration must begin to take responsibility for whether its actions were change for the better or for the worse.

I've noted people complain that O is responsible for the $multi-billion bailouts/stimulus. Others counter with the refrain that Bush had already started down that path. No real change there? Seems like if either of them is right, so is the other. If the concept is not useful, both are guilty of the same sin.

dback
07-10-2009, 10:26 AM
If the concept is not useful, both are guilty of the same sin.

Certainly gets my vote......... (stimulus/bailouts) trillions > billions

Marvin S
07-10-2009, 11:15 AM
I just wonder where was the outrage when this spending was going on for the past 8 years?

We do not have to post our outrage on the WWW - but we were unhappy with the Irresponsibility. So here's what we did -

LOWERED or STOPPED OUR DONATION LEVEL TO ANY NATIONAL COMMITTEE -

ANSWERED THOSE FUND RAISING LETTERS WITH SNARLY COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR SPENDING - Hoping for a Change in their habits!! ;) :rolleyes: :o

BUT STILL VOTED R BECAUSE AS BAD AS THEY ARE THEY ARE STILL BETTER THAN WHAT THE OTHER SIDE OFFERED -

But this time our guy (Congressman RINDIP), a member of the gang of 8 will just not get anything - especially our vote. As he represents no one but himself.

Steve Amrein
07-10-2009, 03:06 PM
I am getting ready for the bailout of Cali-forn-E-a They have no money yet spent 1.4 mil on Jacko's funeral.

dnf777
07-10-2009, 03:28 PM
I am getting ready for the bailout of Cali-forn-E-a They have no money yet spent 1.4 mil on Jacko's funeral.

Have you seen that they're paying contractors and creditors with IOUs now? Some banks are refusing them, as would I. I might take one as a souvenir.

Anything from traffic tickets, to taxes, to fishing licenses should be paid for with IOUs from the citizens, just to be fair.

luvmylabs23139
07-10-2009, 09:44 PM
why are we wasting all these tax dollars on her??? I want my money back.

bobbyb
07-11-2009, 07:37 PM
WAIT,WAIT !!!!!!
I understand that when she went to russia she had a $6,000 alligator clutch purse. Don't be raising to much hell cause guess who got alligators ? Me,thank you !!!