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Gerry Clinchy
08-11-2009, 08:56 AM
Surprised nobody has mentioned Hillary's little temper tantrum when answering the student questions on her Africa trip.

She thought that the questioner was asking what Bill Clinton's opinion was on something. She really blew her cool.

It later turned out that the "president" the student was inquiring about was O, not Bill. Even if the question had been as Hillary interpreted it, her response could have been handled ever so much better than she did.

We just better hope that Bill's name doesn't come up when she's in some serious negotiations!

road kill
08-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Surprised nobody has mentioned Hillary's little temper tantrum when answering the student questions on her Africa trip.

She thought that the questioner was asking what Bill Clinton's opinion was on something. She really blew her cool.

It later turned out that the "president" the student was inquiring about was O, not Bill. Even if the question had been as Hillary interpreted it, her response could have been handled ever so much better than she did.

We just better hope that Bill's name doesn't come up when she's in some serious negotiations!

She won't be in any serious negotiations, "the Obama" will send Bill!!:D

Paul Kartes
08-11-2009, 09:05 AM
I was thinking of posting something about it.

But along those lines, do you think the Dems are loosing it. Between Hillary, the town hall meetings going bust, the 230 million dollars for 4 jets for congress, health care, the SC gov telling people not to listen to Glen Beck, the list goes on and on.

The only one to get anything done in this admin is a former pres.

Are the Dems imploding? I also find it interesting that we never hear about Iraq anymore.

road kill
08-11-2009, 09:23 AM
I was thinking of posting something about it.

But along those lines, do you think the Dems are loosing it. Between Hillary, the town hall meetings going bust, the 230 million dollars for 4 jets for congress, health care, the SC gov telling people not to listen to Glen Beck, the list goes on and on.

The only one to get anything done in this admin is a former pres.

Are the Dems imploding? I also find it interesting that we never hear about Iraq anymore.

Or the disaster that is Afgahnistan.
Now estimated to cost more than Iraq in the long run.

BonMallari
08-11-2009, 09:30 AM
Hillary's temper is exactly why the American public didnt trust her for the top spot to run the country...That video will come back to haunt her if she ever decides to throw her hat back into race for the White House..what was more disgusting is to watch the photo ops of her dancing with the local African representatives trying to look hip...

luvalab
08-11-2009, 10:33 AM
...

..what was more disgusting is to watch the photo ops of her dancing with the local African representatives trying to look hip...

Isn't silly dancing sort of a political mainstay???

The recent Mr. Bush in a trio:

http://wonkette.com/359290/george-bush-dances-in-africa

I tried to find some of Bill dancing (I know they're out there), but google gave me like 5 pages of something about an Argentine lap dance...

I distinctly remember footage of George the elder dancing in Africa--did I dream this up? (that would be wierd)

I must say, President Reagan was a lovely dancer.



And yes, Hillary's little fit was a gaff.

Goose
08-11-2009, 02:37 PM
She's just mad because Billy-boy is in Las Vegas celebrating his birthday...without her there to supervise his nocturnal activities!!

BonMallari
08-11-2009, 02:54 PM
I would categorize their marriage as more of a business arrangement, they need each other while in the public eye JMHO

YardleyLabs
08-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned Hillary's little temper tantrum when answering the student questions on her Africa trip.

She thought that the questioner was asking what Bill Clinton's opinion was on something. She really blew her cool.

It later turned out that the "president" the student was inquiring about was O, not Bill. Even if the question had been as Hillary interpreted it, her response could have been handled ever so much better than she did.

We just better hope that Bill's name doesn't come up when she's in some serious negotiations!
I just watched a tape of the question and response on CNN. The questioner clearly said (or the interpreter clearly said) "What does Mr. Clinton say through Mrs. Clinton....." The question did not ask about the President.

road kill
08-11-2009, 03:26 PM
I just watched a tape of the question and response on CNN. The questioner clearly said (or the interpreter clearly said) "What does Mr. Clinton say through Mrs. Clinton....." The question did not ask about the President.

SO??

She lost her temper.
Doesn't matter.

In all fairness to Specter, he stood there, looked right in the guy's eyes and listened to him vent.
He did not lose his temper.

She did in a far more civil atmosphere.

stan b

TXduckdog
08-11-2009, 03:40 PM
Hey, if you have had to put up with all of Slick Willie's BS over the years, wouldn't you be pi$$ed off too?

Hew
08-11-2009, 04:34 PM
I hadn't bothered to watch the video until just a few minutes ago as I was sure her supposedly livid reaction was hyped up in the headlines and that it probably wasn't that big of a deal. It was well worth watching and some needed comic relief...and if anything, the headlines didn't do her reaction justice. She was madder than a hatter and came off as a total b-word. Just when her image as a harpy had been softened she reminds everyone why she's not very well liked by the masses. I didn't see any links to it on this thread, so here it is in all its glory: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/lost-in-translation-clinton-says-she-not-bill-is-the-secretary-of-state.html

FWIW...the student supposedly asked about Obama and it was translated wrong:



The only problem? Apparently the translator made a mistake and the student had wanted to know what President Obama thought of the deal. A State Department official tells ABC News the student went up to Clinton after the event and told her he was misquoted. No immediate word yet how Clinton responded.

Regardless of the error, the notion of Secretary Clinton's deference to her husband clearly touched a nerve with America's top diplomat.

YardleyLabs
08-11-2009, 05:17 PM
I hadn't bothered to watch the video until just a few minutes ago as I was sure her supposedly livid reaction was hyped up in the headlines and that it probably wasn't that big of a deal. It was well worth watching and some needed comic relief...and if anything, the headlines didn't do her reaction justice. She was madder than a hatter and came off as a total b-word. Just when her image as a harpy had been softened she reminds everyone why she's not very well liked by the masses. I didn't see any links to it on this thread, so here it is in all its glory: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/lost-in-translation-clinton-says-she-not-bill-is-the-secretary-of-state.html

FWIW...the student supposedly asked about Obama and it was translated wrong:
I actually thought she looked like a sour pus before, during and after the question, as she often does, although she didn't look bad when she shook the student's hand.

The question that was asked was, "Thank you. Mrs Clinton, we've all heard about the Chinese contracts in this country. The interference is from the World Bank against this contract. What does Mr. Clinton think through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton and what does Mr. Mutombo think on this situation? Thank you very much."

Her response, after looking to moderators (with background conversation presumably for some kind of confirmation regarding the question), was "Wait, you want me to tell you what my husband thinks? My husband is not the Secretary of State, I am. So if you ask my opinion I'll tell you my opinion. I'm not going to be channeling my husband." (I think I got that right). What would you have preferred her to say? Personally, I would have liked a response along the lines of "I can't and won't speak for my husband. I could tell you my opinion as Secretary of State, but the World Bank (the subject of the question) does not report to me." It was interesting since I suspect that she had no intention of answering the question which addressed World Bank concerns about Chinese requests for financial guarantees that might further hurt the Congo's debt situation.

dnf777
08-11-2009, 05:29 PM
I actually thought she looked like a sour pus before, during and after the question, as she often does, although she didn't look bad when she shook the student's hand.

The question that was asked was, "Thank you. Mrs Clinton, we've all heard about the Chinese contracts in this country. The interference is from the World Bank against this contract. What does Mr. Clinton think through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton and what does Mr. Mutombo think on this situation? Thank you very much."

Her response, after looking to moderators (with background conversation presumably for some kind of confirmation regarding the question), was "Wait, you want me to tell you what my husband thinks? My husband is not the Secretary of State, I am. So if you ask my opinion I'll tell you my opinion. I'm not going to be channeling my husband." (I think I got that right). What would you have preferred her to say? Personally, I would have liked a response along the lines of "I can't and won't speak for my husband. I could tell you my opinion as Secretary of State, but the World Bank (the subject of the question) does not report to me." It was interesting since I suspect that she had no intention of answering the question which addressed World Bank concerns about Chinese requests for financial guarantees that might further hurt the Congo's debt situation.

At least she didn't say something intelligent like, "I thought we were gonna talk about the pig....where's the pig?" :eek:

Goose
08-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Don't you know if must still froth Mrs. Clinton that she lost the Presidency to this Kenyan. I bet she still has nightmares. She should be in the White House...not him. She deserved it. She earned it by having to put up with all of Billy's affairs, the blue dress and all the humiliation. She was the New York Senator. It was her turn. The White House was HERS!

And what does she get for all her hard work? A trip to The Congo!!! And her husband gets all the glory by returning the two young ladies back to the United States and then heads straight for Vegas where he gets to celebrate his birthday...without her!

She's got to be pissed. Life isn't fair. No wonder she hates men!

BonMallari
08-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Don't you know if must still froth Mrs. Clinton that she lost the Presidency to this Kenyan. I bet she still has nightmares. She should be in the White House...not him. She deserved it. She earned it by having to put up with all of Billy's affairs, the blue dress and all the humiliation. She was the New York Senator. It was her turn. The White House was HERS!

And what does she get for all her hard work? A trip to The Congo!!! And her husband gets all the glory by returning the two young ladies back to the United States and then heads straight for Vegas where he gets to celebrate his birthday...without her!

She's got to be pissed. Life isn't fair. No wonder she hates men!

thats an angle you will not see on cable news...........because its probably the truth:D:D

Raymond Little
08-11-2009, 11:37 PM
I bet Bill is taking a ride on the Wheel of Fortune tonight for his birthday!:BIG::BIG:

Bruce MacPherson
08-12-2009, 12:13 AM
The boys are running all the real interesting spots in the world and she get's the Congo. Talk about the back of the bus. I thought to myself when I saw her reaction, please lord don't let there be a loaded gun lying around anywhere, we could of had ourselves an international incident.

Gerry Clinchy
08-12-2009, 08:53 AM
Jeff

I just watched a tape of the question and response on CNN. The questioner clearly said (or the interpreter clearly said) "What does Mr. Clinton say through Mrs. Clinton....." The question did not ask about the President.

Gerry

Even if the question had been as Hillary interpreted it, her response could have been handled ever so much better than she did.

Her response was so un-stateswomanlike, there can be no defense of her reaction. She could have easily used what most politicos use: ignore the insult as if it never happened, "MY own position on ___ is ..."

That said, I think she is probably more intelligent than Billy. Perhaps once again proving that a silver tongue will get you further in politics than intelligence :-)

mjh345
08-12-2009, 09:16 AM
I just saw the clip and to me the body language was far more telling than the words she uttered.
WOW!!

Undiplomatic chip on shoulder regards

M&K's Retrievers
08-12-2009, 10:57 PM
thats an angle you will not see on cable news...........because its probably the truth:D:D

Heh, Heh, Heh...A of ray sunshine in the middle of this mess:p

M&K's Retrievers
08-12-2009, 11:01 PM
You know, Hillary has to bail out pretty soon so she can run against Doofus in the next election. I don't think she can wait 7 1/2 years and have a chance at geting elected.

Pete
08-12-2009, 11:26 PM
Wow She aint lookin to good these days . its like she has aged 20 years
Bill is oviously getting younger and is enjoying himself. I think hillery will look sort of like barbara bush did compared to herbert.

Hillery will look like a worn out old hag when we see her standing next to billy . We will all wonder if thats bills mother.
She's starting to get frown wrinkles:)

What people think about in their heart has a tendency of rolling out their mouth. I think bills in trouble when she gets home:p

Pete