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Franco
09-14-2009, 09:43 PM
I just saw this on Facebook.

I don't know how I missed this over the weekend. Probably too much football.

Thousands marched on DC protesting our out of control government!

Thank you protestors!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcgNXMPtqM

M&K's Retrievers
09-14-2009, 10:12 PM
Can't believe NBC reported it. Probably just on Utube. Interesting, only 2428 views.

JDogger
09-14-2009, 10:38 PM
Facebook Booty?.... Google Billionaires for Wealthcare. It's funny. Here's one link;

http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/

Follow the link to others. Street theater lives. Call it teaparty, or a tongue-in-cheek counter protest.
I read where some at the teaparty cheered these people on, believing them to be sincere, and not getting the jab.
The first Amendment lives, and lives well still.

JD

Bruce MacPherson
09-14-2009, 11:47 PM
Facebook Booty?.... Google Billionaires for Wealthcare. It's funny. Here's one link;

http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/

Follow the link to others. Street theater lives. Call it teaparty, or a tongue-in-cheek counter protest.
I read where some at the teaparty cheered these people on, believing them to be sincere, and not getting the jab.
The first Amendment lives, and lives well still.

JD

JD you are such a stereotype.

JDogger
09-15-2009, 12:17 AM
JD you are such a stereotype.

Well, thank you Bruce...thank you. I'll consider that a compliment. I could do no less than return the compliment. I find you to also be as stereotypical as you believe I to be. You got any more?

JD

ALPHA-OMEGA
09-15-2009, 02:05 AM
Franco, easy to miss if you did as I, sleep for day and half. That is what you get for being up two days straight.

Followed the link to facebook. A lot more Billionaires there, then back. Got lost and ended up at New England Journal of Medicine. In their last issue they have a scientifically taken pole of about 2000 Doctors on the health care debate. Pretty much tracks the rest of the nation.
10% single payer
63% single payer and insurance
28% insurance only
The OMEGA tells me to watch 29%, it is base number that goes back about four year. It is the same group that is consistently for or against something. I believe she is correct, I have been seeing that approximate percentage for awhile

The link is:
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1790&query=home

Before the Insurance Companies started tossing $$$$$ back in June the public support was in the 75-80% with little opposition. Now there are people who want to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, V.A., TRICARE, and any other low cost high service single payer. Those are about one third of the health care provided in the Country. Wonder if they want to get rid of the CDC, NIH, NIMH and all the State and Local services too. All we can do is wait and see what happens, many of our Representatives have no concern for us. I expect that they will just start shoveling the $$$$$$$$ to Daddy Insurance Bucks like they did to Daddy Banker Bucks and Daddy Insurance Bucks ????? I think I detect a double dipper here.

I better get some sleep now or I will end up with another two dayer and crash again for a day and a half.

Bruce MacPherson
09-15-2009, 02:30 AM
Well, thank you Bruce...thank you. I'll consider that a compliment. I could do no less than return the compliment. I find you to also be as stereotypical as you believe I to be. You got any more?

JD

If you mean by stereotypical that I believe in God, family, country, free enterprise, self sufficiency and have a healthy dislike for government types that believe good intentions trump actual results then you pretty much have me pegged.

JDogger
09-15-2009, 09:18 AM
If you mean by stereotypical that I believe in God, family, country, free enterprise, self sufficiency and have a healthy dislike for government types that believe good intentions trump actual results then you pretty much have me pegged.

:razz: Brothers in our stereotypicalness. Who would have guessed?:p

JD

ErinsEdge
09-15-2009, 10:26 AM
The 2.2M estimated people that marched, not just thousands, are mostly people who have never protested a thing in their lives. Underestimating the power of the salt of the earth and senior citizens will be the downfall of this administration. Insulting them by calling them anything other than what they are as law abiding citizens is what is infuriating them to the point of demonstrating. I hope everyone takes a part in invoking their 1st amendment rights and fight the administration that insults them. At least my congressman supports medical liability reform, grants to states to establish high risk insurance pools for people with pre-existing conditions, a plan for individuals to purchase insurance nation wide instead of state by state, tax credits some of which are already in place if you actually work, and health savings accounts where people are responsible for their own healthcare spending. These people are not led by billionaires but just sick of the executive BS and more intelligent than the sheep with their hands out on the dole.

TXduckdog
09-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Nancy P.....good of you to slide in here and how right you are.

Franco
09-15-2009, 01:17 PM
Nancy P.....good of you to slide in here and how right you are.

It is a great post and underlines just how the elite think!

YardleyLabs
09-15-2009, 02:04 PM
The 2.2M estimated people that marched, not just thousands, are mostly people who have never protested a thing in their lives. Underestimating the power of the salt of the earth and senior citizens will be the downfall of this administration. Insulting them by calling them anything other than what they are as law abiding citizens is what is infuriating them to the point of demonstrating. I hope everyone takes a part in invoking their 1st amendment rights and fight the administration that insults them. At least my congressman supports medical liability reform, grants to states to establish high risk insurance pools for people with pre-existing conditions, a plan for individuals to purchase insurance nation wide instead of state by state, tax credits some of which are already in place if you actually work, and health savings accounts where people are responsible for their own healthcare spending. These people are not led by billionaires but just sick of the executive BS and more intelligent than the sheep with their hands out on the dole.
The only estimates I have seen as high as 2 million were based on a photo that was taken before the construction of the National Museum of the American Indian which opened five years ago. ABC, which was quoted as saying that the crowd totaled 1.2 million issued a statement indicating that neither it nor any of its affiliates ever made any such claim. Rather, abc.com estimated the crowd at 60-70,000 based on comments from the DC Fire Department and the stations simply said that there were tens of thousands in attendance.

ErinsEdge
09-15-2009, 02:32 PM
An estimate is a guesstimate just like the estmate of the crowd before Obama in Berlin...it all depends whose side or more correctly which media is making the estimate...but the numbers will be going nowhere but up as people stand up for the truth, and this is what its about...lies and deception.

JDogger
09-15-2009, 02:48 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-crowd15-2009sep15,0,1062512.story

So crowd estimates vary. 60,000 or 2,000,000.

Ultimitely what outcome do you predict?

Subvert the dominant paradigm?

Good Luck

JD

ErinsEdge
09-15-2009, 03:20 PM
What outcome will there be? I'm not a psychic. I just hope that people that have worked all their lives don't have to relinquish what they saved and were required to be put into social security divided up for those that sat on their asses and expected government handouts.Those that worked all their lives in hopes of pursuing life,liberty, and happiness are the people that are protesting.

Buzz
09-15-2009, 04:56 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-crowd15-2009sep15,0,1062512.story

So crowd estimates vary. 60,000 or 2,000,000.

Ultimitely what outcome do you predict?

Subvert the dominant pardigm?

Good Luck

JD

The estimates of 2M are a joke. The fire department knows how to estimate crowds. I like that, estimates vary... I've been in a crowd of 2 million people. It will literally shut a town down. Two million people packed shoulder to shoulder, chest to back, with no breathing space in between will fill an area around 450 feet wide by 1 mile long. The mall in DC is 309 acres. If you put 2M people on the mall, and each took up a square 2.5 x 2.5 feet, the mall would be absolutely packed one end to the other. They would be tightly packed enough that you couldn't walk through the crowd.

Gerry Clinchy
09-15-2009, 06:38 PM
Someone from our area who went to DC over the weekend reported this:
I went to DC last Saturday. I never saw so many people in my life. It was reported yesterday a university from Illinois (I think I heard) came up with 1.7 million people from a satellite imagery system program.

YardleyLabs
09-15-2009, 06:53 PM
Someone from our area who went to DC over the weekend reported this:
I went to DC last Saturday. I never saw so many people in my life. It was reported yesterday a university from Illinois (I think I heard) came up with 1.7 million people from a satellite imagery system program.
As far as I can tell, Beck invented this count on the spur of the moment during his Fox & Friends comments on Tuesday. He cited an unnamed (and still unnamed) "university" that had done some study, dismissing what he characterized as the "official" estimate of 60,000 (there was no official estimate since the Parks Service is not longer allowed to provide such counts after controversy on the numbers of attendees in prior demonstrations.).

Franco
09-15-2009, 07:11 PM
As far as I can tell, Beck invented this count on the spur of the moment during his Fox & Friends comments on Tuesday. He cited an unnamed (and still unnamed) "university" that had done some study, dismissing what he characterized as the "official" estimate of 60,000 (there was no official estimate since the Parks Service is not longer allowed to provide such counts after controversy on the numbers of attendees in prior demonstrations.).

That 60,000 is more than what showed up several years ago at the Million Man March and look at the publicity it recieved!

YardleyLabs
09-15-2009, 07:39 PM
That 60,000 is more than what showed up several years ago at the Million Man March and look at the publicity it recieved!
Actually, that was the last time the Parks Service did an official count. They announced that 400,000 had shown up when the organizers were saying that there were 1.7 million. In any event, it seems to have been massively larger than this past weekend. Maybe that's where the photo came that was circulated on conservative blogs to prove the claim of more people.:D

ErinsEdge
09-16-2009, 07:14 AM
My computer is down but I received some photos. Argue about the estimates all you want but this was a lot of dissatisfied people and just because the media didn't cover it,doesn't mean it wasn't powerful.

Gerry Clinchy
09-16-2009, 07:41 AM
Surprised that nobody has mentioned that one network (think it was CNN) focused on two signs that could be interpreted as "racist". In the audio I heard, another reporter countered with the observation that only "a handful" of signs would fall into that category.

Some representative of the 9-12'ers (or tea-baggers, don't recall which) made a statement categorically disavowing any form of racism as part of their goals. Like any large group, of either right or left persuasion, I think you would find "a handful" of extreme views. I'm sure you could find at least "a handful" of O supporters who really believe socialism is the answer to our problems.

Even in this forum there is a spectrum of variation in those who are either right or left of center on any given issue. Even on the matter of gun control there is variation, i.e. whether there is reason to truly ban certain types of weapons. Some have expressed that they would not object to certain weapons being banned (certain weapons specifically designed for military personnel); while there are others who feel no bans on any types of guns would be appropriate. Yet, from my observation, there is fairly uniform agreement that a criminal record should preclude being able to have a gun. I'll apologize in advance if my observations here are incorrect. It is my recollection on such discussions in the past on the forum.