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AmiableLabs
09-17-2009, 12:36 PM
"So let me be clear: Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activity poses a real
threat, not just to the United States, but to Iran's neighbors and our allies.
The Czech Republic and Poland have been courageous in agreeing to host a
defense against these missiles. As long as the threat from Iran persists, we
will go forward with a missile defense system that is cost-effective and
proven. (Applause.) If the Iranian threat is eliminated, we will have a stronger
basis for security, and the driving force for missile defense construction in
Europe will be removed." (Applause.)

-- Barack Obama, Prague, Czech Republic, 4/5/2009

Bob Gutermuth
09-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Rep Joe Wilson was right in his description of this occupant of the White House.

BonMallari
09-17-2009, 01:18 PM
I am watching BHO award the Congressional Medal of Honor, posthumously to Staff Sgt Jared Monti and with his disdain for the military he shuts down the missile defense shield..BHO just doesnt seem to have the same vigor and compassion for bestowing military honors as did his predecessors...But if he thinks Iran is no longer a threat then he is getting some real bad advice

Bob Gutermuth
09-17-2009, 01:22 PM
The military deserves a commander in chief who has something between his legs, not this eunuch.

AmiableLabs
09-17-2009, 01:29 PM
BHO has decided to shut down the European missile shield on the 70th Anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland.

Planned or unplanned?

AmiableLabs
09-17-2009, 01:33 PM
In other news, it has been leaked that the world's top atomic watchdog (IAEA) has determined Iran can now make a nuclear bomb --

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9AP714G0&show_article=1

-- Again I ask, is BHO's timing planned or unplanned?

M&K's Retrievers
09-17-2009, 01:39 PM
Makes you wonder who side he is on doesn't it?

gman0046
09-17-2009, 02:12 PM
The good news is this eunuch is being seen by the American public for what he is. The only American President who ever bowed to any foreign head of state much less Saudi Douche Bags. How about his apology tour where he apologized for every thing this country had accomplished through out the world. We in Kentucky did our part we went to McCain. The wave of dissent is spreading. It's only a matter of time this wimp and his cast of characters will be gone. What more could you have expected when he's the least qualified person to ever be elected to lead this great country?

AmiableLabs
09-17-2009, 02:12 PM
According to ABC News, BHO's decision to close the missile shiled was leaked by the Czech President, and caught the White House by surprise. It left them scrambling to get BHO out in front of the cameras to give an explanation.

BHO (or was it his teleprompter?) said this move "will make us safer."

UN-BE-LIEV-A-BLE. :roll:

Bayou Magic
09-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Does Israel concur that Iran is not a real threat?

None of us world problem solvers get to sit in on the security briefings, but I can't help but wonder how you can go from considering Iran as an extremely dangerous foe to a county that is not longer considered much of a threat in a few months time. What changed that much? Iran's leadership? Their view of the world? They suddenly don't want Israel and the West removed from this earth? The previous intelligence was that flawed?

What prompted this new conclusion?

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Hew
09-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Yardley telling us that missile defense doesn't work in...


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Gerry Clinchy
09-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Pentagon officials said the decision to move away from the shield was based on intelligence indicating Iran is focused on developing short- and medium-range missiles rather than the long-range intercontinental missiles originally feared

Somehow it seems odd to me to share our strategic thinking in public communications like this. If I were Iran, I would change my focus accordingly :-)



A senior Iranian government source said the move could signal a move away from what he called 'threats and confrontation' over Iran's nuclear program.

"There could be two reasons behind such a decision; either the U.S. has reached the conclusion that Iran is not a threat, or the Russians may have convinced the Americans that there is no need for such a defense shield."

YardleyLabs
09-17-2009, 02:51 PM
As we have discussed before, the track record for long range missile defense sucks. The track record of short range is getting much better. I felt this program was a political boodoggle when Bush proposed it and I am happy if it dies. If we are going to cut the Federal deficit, a large amount of the savings will come from defense since that currently consumes a large percentage of the total budget.

AmiableLabs
09-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Personally, there are some things I am not willing to roll the dice on. National Security is one of them.

gman0046
09-17-2009, 03:09 PM
Yardley, the more you post the dumber you sound. Using your thought process we could eliminate all defense spending and save even more money. Maybe we could just give the money to welfare recipients. You Liberals never cease to amaze me.

YardleyLabs
09-17-2009, 03:41 PM
Yardley, the more you post the dumber you sound. Using your thought process we could eliminate all defense spending and save even more money. Maybe we could just give the money to welfare recipients. You Liberals never cease to amaze me.
Where do you come up with such logic? Wasteful spending is wasteful spending, whether it is theoretically for defense or theoretically to assist those in need. I believe we need to do both, but that we need to do both well. You can listen to Secretary Gates' assessment at http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=15611075&ch=4226713&src=news.

BonMallari
09-17-2009, 03:57 PM
I know, why dont we cut welfare fraud and medical services to undocumented aliens instead that should save a few bucks

Terry Britton
09-17-2009, 05:01 PM
Makes you wonder who side he is on doesn't it?

Actions with Hondourous makes that really clear.

gman0046
09-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Not to worry Obamas getting hammered on the talk shows for failing to back our allies and capitulating to Russia. Every day now he's looking dumber and dumber. Booed today in Maryland after lying about healthcare. He still hasn't addressed ACORN. He's now being asked by both parties in Congress about his authority to hire all these Czars. Mainstream America is on to this clown. We're going to take back our country.

zeus3925
09-17-2009, 06:37 PM
I know, why dont we cut welfare fraud and medical services to undocumented aliens instead that should save a few bucks

Most welfare systems have active fraud investigative units. The sad thing is there are judges that hand down wrist slaps when people are charged and found guilty.

I don't like to provide health care to illegals, either, but if there is a communicative disease present it is wise to get at it whoever may be affected. Currently illegals are ineligible for public medical coverage. However, if someone shows up at an emergency room, physicians are required by law and oath to treat.

Gerry Clinchy
09-17-2009, 07:12 PM
but I can't help but wonder how you can go from considering Iran as an extremely dangerous foe to a county that is not longer considered much of a threat in a few months time.

Wasn't it just a matter of weeks (or less?) that the question of additional sanctions was raised, and Russia said they would vote against it in the Security Council? Then Iran is going to come to some kind of conference discussing what they are willing to concede to do. Seems like less than 2 wks since the latter development.

Roger Perry
10-10-2009, 12:55 PM
According to ABC News, BHO's decision to close the missile shiled was leaked by the Czech President, and caught the White House by surprise. It left them scrambling to get BHO out in front of the cameras to give an explanation.

BHO (or was it his teleprompter?) said this move "will make us safer."

UN-BE-LIEV-A-BLE. :roll:

Yes believable.
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Iran agreed on Thursday in talks with the United States and other major powers to open its newly revealed uranium enrichment plant near Qum to international inspection in the next two weeks and to send most of its openly declared enriched uranium to Russia to be turned into fuel for a small reactor that produces medical isotopes, senior American and other Western officials said.


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And while we are at it,
updated 12:57 a.m. ET, Sat., Oct . 10, 2009

China: Time to act on N. Korea nuke talks
Chinese premier says Kim Jong Il showing signs of flexibility


BEIJING - China's premier said Saturday that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il was showing signs of flexibility and that China, South Korea and Japan must seize the chance to put talks on disabling Pyongyang's nuclear program back on track.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33251289/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

blind ambition
10-10-2009, 09:00 PM
It's hard to believe that there really are more than one means to skin a cat and that realpolitik and deplomacy might actually have a legitimate place in a statesman's arsenal.

quid pro quo
cum laude