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TXduckdog
09-25-2009, 09:59 AM
From John Kerry no less.

A $20 MILLION budget item stuck in the DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS BILL to partially fund some kind of Teddy Kennedy memorial school or some other BS.

Hell, have the fricking Kennedy's write the damn check or your wife, a$$hole.....it's a tax write-off for god's sake.

I'm offended as hell that taxpayers dollars are going to ANY Kennedy memorial.

Bob Gutermuth
09-25-2009, 10:00 AM
I would rather fund a memorial for Mary Jo Kopechne than Teddy Boy. He wasted enough of our money while he was alive.

zeus3925
09-25-2009, 11:29 AM
A recent defense appropriations bill allocating $639 million for equipment purchase was ballooned to $2.7 billion with 1,100 earmarks. No change yet in Washington.

dnf777
09-25-2009, 11:44 AM
Earmarks and lobbyitsts. Two things that MUST go to preserve our country.

Steve Amrein
09-25-2009, 12:58 PM
Well I'll be DNF, Zeus and I agree on something in a political topic.

zeus3925
09-25-2009, 01:58 PM
Well I'll be DNF, Zeus and I agree on something in a political topic.

I have been in support of both a germane restrictions on amendments to congressional bills. If a bill is a defense procurement bill, riders (earmarks) to the bill must be also for defense procurement. The non germane stuff is where we get into trouble. A lot of garbage wouldn't see the light of day if it was in its own stand alone bill.

I am also in favor of a presidential line item veto. Congress won't pass that since that would be sure to cut somebody's pork.

ducknwork
09-25-2009, 02:01 PM
I have been in support of both a germane restrictions on amendments to congressional bills. If a bill is a defense procurement bill, riders (earmarks) to the bill must be also for defense procurement. The non germane stuff is where we get into trouble. A lot of garbage wouldn't see the light of day if it was in its own stand alone bill.

I am also in favor of a presidential line item veto. Congress won't pass that since that would be sure to cut somebody's pork.

Someone else should be allowed to make the call on line item veto and term limits. Everyone knows 2 things: we need both of them and congress will never approve them.
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Bob Gutermuth
09-25-2009, 02:39 PM
SCOTUS ruled that a presidential line item veto was unconstitutional.

dnf777
09-25-2009, 02:53 PM
I wouldn't want ANY president of any political persuasion to get line-item-veto! WAY too much power in one man's hands. We all know it wouldn't be used just for scratching earmarks.

road kill
09-25-2009, 03:01 PM
Earmarks???

What Earmarks???

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStor ies

luvmylabs23139
09-25-2009, 04:31 PM
BUMFACE said he wouldn't sign any bill if it had earmarks. Lets see if at tleast this time he will stick to his campaign promise.
Fact: HE IS A LIAR!!!!!!

gman0046
09-25-2009, 04:35 PM
A memorial to a Murderer paid for with taxpayer money is just what this country needs. I'm sure Obongo will be all for it.

zeus3925
09-25-2009, 04:43 PM
I wouldn't want ANY president of any political persuasion to get line-item-veto! WAY too much power in one man's hands. We all know it wouldn't be used just for scratching earmarks.

Limited to tax and spending should be sufficient.

subroc
09-25-2009, 04:47 PM
I have no problem with lobbyists...

YardleyLabs
09-25-2009, 05:04 PM
If we're really going to go for the porkers, let's go for the meat:

Richard Shelby, Rep. AR: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1528093/bringing_home_the_bacon_senator_shelby.html
Kit Bond, Rep, MO: Credited with $96 million in individual earmarks in the 2009 Senate Omnibus Budget bill (Senator Macaskill, Dem, MO, requested none.). http://bond.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=c659a958-efcb-55ff-a664-f2a80da2d574.
(http://bond.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=c659a958-efcb-55ff-a664-f2a80da2d574)
Thad Cochran, Rep, MS: Sponsored earmark requests of more than $2 billion in 2008/09 and received $76 million in solo earmarks in the 2009 Senate Omnibus Bill. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/09/winners-losers-proposed-massive-spending/
Lisa Murkowski, Rep, AK: Received $74 million in solo earmarks in the 2009 bill and sponsored over $300 million in earmarks, and then issued statements on the outrageous earmarks included by Democrats in the stimulus bill. http://www.legistorm.com/earmarks/details/member/72/Sen_Lisa_Murkowski/page/1/sort/amount/type/desc.htmlIf you look at the record over a two year period, Diane Feinsten and Murtha are very high on the list along with luminaries such as Lindsey Graham ($693 million solo earmarks) and Sen Kay Bailey Hutchison ($939 million in solo earmarks).

gman0046
09-25-2009, 05:22 PM
I don't believe any of the Porkers mentioned by Yardley murdered anyone like Kennedy did.

TXduckdog
09-25-2009, 07:31 PM
If we're really going to go for the porkers, let's go for the meat:

Richard Shelby, Rep. AR: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1528093/bringing_home_the_bacon_senator_shelby.html
Kit Bond, Rep, MO: Credited with $96 million in individual earmarks in the 2009 Senate Omnibus Budget bill (Senator Macaskill, Dem, MO, requested none.). http://bond.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=c659a958-efcb-55ff-a664-f2a80da2d574.
(http://bond.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=c659a958-efcb-55ff-a664-f2a80da2d574)
Thad Cochran, Rep, MS: Sponsored earmark requests of more than $2 billion in 2008/09 and received $76 million in solo earmarks in the 2009 Senate Omnibus Bill. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/09/winners-losers-proposed-massive-spending/
Lisa Murkowski, Rep, AK: Received $74 million in solo earmarks in the 2009 bill and sponsored over $300 million in earmarks, and then issued statements on the outrageous earmarks included by Democrats in the stimulus bill. http://www.legistorm.com/earmarks/details/member/72/Sen_Lisa_Murkowski/page/1/sort/amount/type/desc.htmlIf you look at the record over a two year period, Diane Feinsten and Murtha are very high on the list along with luminaries such as Lindsey Graham ($693 million solo earmarks) and Sen Kay Bailey Hutchison ($939 million in solo earmarks).


Jeff...you jackass....if I had the time to do the research, I could find Dems that are as bad or worse.

YardleyLabs
09-25-2009, 07:59 PM
Jeff...you jackass....if I had the time to do the research, I could find Dems that are as bad or worse.
You don't have to do the research. I already included some examples. However, Republicans dominated the earmark game consistently -- one of the advantages of having control of the WH and Congress for as long as they did. This rolled over to the Omnibus Budget reconciliation bill signed by Obama in March that included over $7 billion in earmarks of which the overwhelming bulk went to Republicans (e.g. 4/5 of the top senators receiving earmarks are republican. You can see a non-partisan itemization of earmarks by member of congress at http://www.legistorm.com/earmarks.html. (http://www.legistorm.com/earmarks.html)

FWIW, Texas received $4.5 billion in earmarks, or more than any state except California. Florida received over $3 billion and is in a virtual tie with New York. Thosde results are actually consistent with state ranks by population.