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junbe
10-09-2009, 06:00 AM
Um-um-um-um-um

Bob Gutermuth
10-09-2009, 06:10 AM
The last American POTUS to win one was another idiot, Jimmy Carter.

subroc
10-09-2009, 06:16 AM
never has a man received so much recognition for accomplishing so little...

Mike W.
10-09-2009, 06:55 AM
I think I'm gonna be sick...

Rainmaker
10-09-2009, 07:12 AM
I had to check my calendar, thought maybe I missed April Fool's Day or something.

YardleyLabs
10-09-2009, 07:24 AM
I actually agree with most of the comments made by the Nobel Committee. However, as of now I think the award is premature since, beyond words, there is nothing to show from his efforts. In another year I hope he will have actually earned such a prize. I would love to see pictures of Sarcozy and Berlusconi on learning of the announcement. Talk about jealous rage.:rolleyes:

road kill
10-09-2009, 07:47 AM
I actually agree with most of the comments made by the Nobel Committee. However, as of now I think the award is premature since, beyond words, there is nothing to show from his efforts. In another year I hope he will have actually earned such a prize. I would love to see pictures of Sarcozy and Berlusconi on learning of the announcement. Talk about jealous rage.:rolleyes:

The sad part of this is that there are some very deserving people whose efforts and ACHIEVEMENTS actually warrant the award.

There is speculation that this is the "anti-Bush" award.

ducknwork
10-09-2009, 08:36 AM
:barf:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ikzJquRpndspc-AdQxcVPK0-SCjQD9B7G5Q01 :rolleyes:
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dixidawg
10-09-2009, 08:43 AM
The last American POTUS to win one was another idiot, Jimmy Carter.


Al Gore. He WON that election you know :cool:

dixidawg
10-09-2009, 08:48 AM
Another note. Nominations for this had to be in by Feb 1. Considering he was sworn in on Jan 20, exactly what were his accomplishments again?

ducknwork
10-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Another note. Nominations for this had to be in by Feb 1. Considering he was sworn in on Jan 20, exactly what were his accomplishments again?

LOTS of talking.:rolleyes:
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road kill
10-09-2009, 08:50 AM
Another note. Nominations for this had to be in by Feb 1. Considering he was sworn in on Jan 20, exactly what were his accomplishments again?

Maybe not doing anything is considered an acheivement??

He does read a teleprompter better than any I've ever seen!!:D

Franco
10-09-2009, 09:13 AM
I understand that Obama is the front runner for the Heisman Trophy.

road kill
10-09-2009, 09:15 AM
I understand that Obama is the front runner for the Heisman Trophy.

And the NL MVP!!

zeus3925
10-09-2009, 09:15 AM
My reaction was "WHAAAaah?" I am going to agree with most of Obama's critics on this one. But, who am I to tell the Nobel Committee how to spend its money.

BonMallari
10-09-2009, 09:22 AM
I understand that Obama is the front runner for the Heisman Trophy.


And the NL MVP!!


Both of you are wrong....he is going to be inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame for his workout with North Carolina last year and taking Tyler Hansbrough to the rack and giving Roy Williams the inspiration to win the NCAA tournament and for correctly picking them in his BB bracket

Buzz
10-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Listening to right wing radio today is going to be priceless. Wish I could get Rush on my Sirius.

road kill
10-09-2009, 09:43 AM
Both of you are wrong....he is going to be inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame for his workout with North Carolina last year and taking Tyler Hansbrough to the rack and giving Roy Williams the inspiration to win the NCAA tournament and for correctly picking them in his BB bracket

At least Al Gore invented the internet....oh yeah, he invented Man Made Global Warming too!!

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 09:46 AM
I understand even Chuck Norris bows to the great obongo after obongo beat him in a fight in which Chuck had all the weapons he could handle and obongo had both hands bound behind his back. Of course this happened at the same time the obongo out scored the other dear leader little Kim at golf. Of course obongo did apologize to both little Kim and Chuck after he beat them soundly.

Seriously WHAT A F’ing JOKE. Just when you think you can’t hear anything stupider something like this comes along. A lot of the rest of the world use to hate us, but now they just laugh at us

Illinois Bob
10-09-2009, 09:57 AM
Maybe the next NFC NAFC will be a Portugese Water Spaniel named Bo.

TXduckdog
10-09-2009, 10:27 AM
Before all the parties begin..... the nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize close on a date that fell about 2 weeks after O's presidency began. Did he accomplish numerous and sweeping note worthy peace initiatives in that 2 weeks? The prize and it's selection committee has now thrown any credibility it had out the window in exchange for O's "change".

luvmylabs23139
10-09-2009, 10:50 AM
The fool was nominated 2 weeks after he took the oath. What this has done is make a joke out of the Nobel Peace Prize. The man had not done anything at the time of nominations to earn the prize. I don't think he has done anything to date, but that is another matter.

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 10:57 AM
Maybe the next NFC NAFC will be a Portugese Water Spaniel named Bo.


I am sure it is already in the works and they don't even have to run to win, they will just be mailing it to the WH

Hoosier
10-09-2009, 11:03 AM
Maybe the next NFC NAFC will be a Portugese Water Spaniel named Bo.

PETA wouldn't like that; so it's not gonna happen.

Sunshine-WI
10-09-2009, 11:06 AM
I was listening to Fox and Friends this morning (My Morning News Place) while I was brushing my teeth....not only did I swallow my toothpaste, but the brush almost went with it.... I can not be a lady, a but down my thoughts on this ill-gotten prize.

TXduckdog
10-09-2009, 11:32 AM
"Even Barack Obama's fan club on NBC's Today were stunned at the President's winning of the Nobel Peace Prize. Co-host Matt Lauer found it baffling: "We're less than a year into the first term of this president and there are no - I'm not trying to be, you know, rude here - no major foreign policy achievements, to date." In their barely seven minutes of coverage on Today, NBC also repeated three times the White House talking point that Obama was "humbled" by the award."

Wow, if NBC News gets it......

ducknwork
10-09-2009, 11:41 AM
Did he accomplish numerous and sweeping note worthy peace initiatives in that 2 weeks?


If you guys will click on the link I posted on the 1st page, the committees comments are based solely on the messiah's 'vision' of a nuke free world. No achievements, just a vision.

Hell, one time I had a dream that my leg was blown off in combat. Shouldn't I be getting a purple heart in the mail soon?
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Roger Perry
10-09-2009, 11:42 AM
I don't think he has done anything to date, but that is another matter.

You are right, he has not done anything to date yet the right on this board has done a lot of criticizing. :roll:

kjrice
10-09-2009, 11:43 AM
never has a man received so much recognition for accomplishing so little...
You mean the election?

ducknwork
10-09-2009, 11:49 AM
You are right, he has not done anything to date yet the right on this board has done a lot of criticizing. :roll:

And some on the left (you) won't critcize anything that he has anything to do with. Even this ridiculous award.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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luvmylabs23139
10-09-2009, 11:55 AM
You are right, he has not done anything to date yet the right on this board has done a lot of criticizing. :roll:

I was talking about anything to earn the Nobel Peace Prize.!!!

He has done plenty to earn my critcism.
The stimulas, pushing for messing up my healthcare, promoting TAX and cap, etc etc etc.
Oh, giving TAX REFUNDS to people who don't pay federal income taxes, making me pay for other peoples' car and house purchases, and the list goes on and on.

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 01:06 PM
You are right, he has not done anything to date yet the right on this board has done a lot of criticizing. :roll:


Come on Roger he has done a lot Porkulas, trying to screw up healthcare, taking over companies....... that is what we criticize about that and well....the whole lot of nothing other than screw things up as mentioned above.
Funny that NBC and SNL both get it that he is useless as teets on a bull but you still maintain a hard on for him

Raymond Little
10-09-2009, 01:13 PM
Come on Roger he has done a lot Porkulas, trying to screw up healthcare, taking over companies....... that is what we criticize about that and well....the whole lot of nothing other than screw things up as mentioned above.
Funny that NBC and SNL both get it that he is useless as teets on a bull but you still maintain a hard on for him

Corey, I think it is called "Man Love".;)

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 01:18 PM
Corey, I think it is called "Man Love".;)


yeah, manlove, bromance......:D

dnf777
10-09-2009, 02:26 PM
I found it interesting that the "liberal media" has been very honest in its assessment. Almost unamimously, people, reporters are questioning this award. Kind of dispels some of the "liberal media" hype.

I think the CLEAR winner should have been George W. Bush. His leaving Washington DC was the greatest stride towards peace I can think of!!:eek:

Bruce MacPherson
10-09-2009, 02:38 PM
The Nobel Peace Prize means nothing anymore apparently.

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 02:41 PM
I found it interesting that the "liberal media" has been very honest in its assessment. Almost unamimously, people, reporters are questioning this award. Kind of dispels some of the "liberal media" hype.

I think the CLEAR winner should have been George W. Bush. His leaving Washington DC was the greatest stride towards peace I can think of!!:eek:

But of course, the media finally calls one like it is and all credibility should be restored.:rolleyes:
The media is beginning to get over the honeymoon I think. They, much like the American public, have a short attention span and will be bashing obongo shortly. Many more short attention span viewers/readers will tune in for bad news than good news. People would rather hear obongo is doing bad than good now that the shine has worn off. It really doesn’t matter conservative or liberal, they all become targets at some point.

zeus3925
10-09-2009, 02:47 PM
The Nobel Peace Prize means nothing anymore apparently.


I'd take the cash though.

badbullgator
10-09-2009, 02:49 PM
But should the president be taking a 1.4M bonus when he is all about limiting what others can make??? After all that is a million more than his base salary.

dnf777
10-09-2009, 02:56 PM
But should the president be taking a 1.4M bonus when he is all about limiting what others can make??? After all that is a million more than his base salary.

I haven't heard that addressed specifically, but I believe WH protocol prohibits receiving gifts/prizes other than nominal amounts.

Does anyone know who else was in contention?

YardleyLabs
10-09-2009, 02:56 PM
But should the president be taking a 1.4M bonus when he is all about limiting what others can make??? After all that is a million more than his base salary.
Well, it seems he has two choices. He can give it away to charity in which case he's a socialist, or he can keep it and pay taxes on it in which case he's a crook. Personally, I think he should sign it over to the IRS since it is obviously compensation for his work as President and we are the guys paying his salary. Would he still have to pay taxes on it if he gave the check to the government?

TCFarmer
10-09-2009, 03:03 PM
The fool was nominated 2 weeks after he took the oath. What this has done is make a joke out of the Nobel Peace Prize. The man had not done anything at the time of nominations to earn the prize. I don't think he has done anything to date, but that is another matter.

I think that actually happened in 1994 when they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Yassar Arafat.

Bruce MacPherson
10-09-2009, 03:07 PM
Does anyone know who else was in contention?

I probably could throw in some affirmative action nonsense here, of course I would then run the risk of being branded as racialy insensitive, which I probably am.
Anyway, I can't help but think the fix was in on this one from the start. We can all feel very good about ourselves now.

road kill
10-09-2009, 03:35 PM
I found it interesting that the "liberal media" has been very honest in its assessment. Almost unamimously, people, reporters are questioning this award. Kind of dispels some of the "liberal media" hype.

I think the CLEAR winner should have been George W. Bush. His leaving Washington DC was the greatest stride towards peace I can think of!!:eek:

SOME????
A very small some!!:D

Richard Halstead
10-09-2009, 04:04 PM
This award is a big change from someone like Norman Borlaug's Award for the Green Revlution. His improvement to wheat varietys are credited for keeping billions from starving. Norman died in September at the age of 95.

M&K's Retrievers
10-09-2009, 04:10 PM
It's gonna be tough to approve sending in 40,000 more troups to Afgan after earing such an award

Roger Perry
10-09-2009, 04:11 PM
And some on the left (you) won't critcize anything that he has anything to do with. Even this ridiculous award.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

In my post did I not say that he has not really done anything yet?

I will save any negative comments when he gets a couple of years into his term. I prefer to give Obama some time to sort things out because he is trying to dig his way out of the mess the last administration left him with. When Bush took over the Presidency in 2001, he came in with a clean slate. Not so with Obama.

And no, I do not think he deserves the recognition for the Nobel Peace Prize because he has not brought peace to any Country yet.

Chad H
10-09-2009, 04:37 PM
I hardly ever post any more, but I just had to read this thread today. I am sorry, but the Nobel USED TO mean something. But it has been down hill for a long, long time. It went from Gandhi and Mother Teresa to Yasar Arafat and Barack Obama in about 65 years. I could go to a soup kitchen or battered women's shelter in any town in this country and find someone who has done VASTLY more to bring peace to this God forsaken world than Mr. Obama. Those peoples vision might actually inspire us all... Mr. Obama's, I am sorry to say, doesn't come close to measuring up (IMHO).

If I am not mistaken, I believe the VOTING for this award, not just nominations, took place in February, some 11 days after the inauguration. 11 days! Mr. Obama didn't even know where the bathrooms were in the White House by that time! The committee, AND Mr. Obama should be ashamed and embarrassed. After all, the Nobel committee is from Norway, one of the WONDERFUL European countries Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi want to remake America after. And this is the kind of form over substance, political BS that will soon reign supreme in their "Brave New World". More so than it already is.

Sorry for the blast. I know I don't post much, so thank you for the opportunity to vent.

Chad

Chad H
10-09-2009, 04:41 PM
When Bush took over the Presidency in 2001, he came in with a clean slate.


I know this thread is about the Nobel Prize, but I am sorry I have to challenge this statement..... I am not sure what you are talking about, but things were not all that great at the end of the Clinton era, so a "Clean Slate"? I don't think so.

Chad

YardleyLabs
10-09-2009, 05:00 PM
I hardly ever post any more, but I just had to read this thread today. I am sorry, but the Nobel USED TO mean something. But it has been down hill for a long, long time. It went from Gandhi and Mother Teresa to Yasar Arafat and Barack Obama in about 65 years. I could go to a soup kitchen or battered women's shelter in any town in this country and find someone who has done VASTLY more to bring peace to this God forsaken world than Mr. Obama. Those peoples vision might actually inspire us all... Mr. Obama's, I am sorry to say, doesn't come close to measuring up (IMHO).

If I am not mistaken, I believe the VOTING for this award, not just nominations, took place in February, some 11 days after the inauguration. 11 days! Mr. Obama didn't even know where the bathrooms were in the White House by that time! The committee, AND Mr. Obama should be ashamed and embarrassed. After all, the Nobel committee is from Norway, one of the WONDERFUL European countries Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi want to remake America after. And this is the kind of form over substance, political BS that will soon reign supreme in their "Brave New World". More so than it already is.

Sorry for the blast. I know I don't post much, so thank you for the opportunity to vent.

Chad
Actually, the voting happened in October. The fact that Obama was one of more than 200 people nominated does not mean very much. There are many thousands of people eligible to submit nominations. As I noted before, I am surprised at his selection, but I still would have loved to see Sarcozy's face since I'm sure he was hoping to be named for his work with Georgia and Russia. First Sarcozy and his beautiful, sexy wife get upstaged by Berlusconi and his affairs with 17 year old girls, and now Boy Scout Obama steals the Nobel Prize. It's been a tough year for France.

Carla Bruni (aka Mme. Sarcozy)

http://www.morethings.com/images/carla_bruni-nicolas_sarkozy/carla-bruni-130.jpg

and Berlusconi's now 18 yo GF Noemi Letizia:
http://www.voceditalia.it/public%5Cgallery%5C278%5CNoemi%20Letizia%207.JPG

dnf777
10-09-2009, 05:05 PM
Jeff,
Thanks for the amazing diversion! I'm sure those men can find some way to soothe the pain of not winning the Nobel Prize. There are bigger prizes, afterall.

road kill
10-09-2009, 05:24 PM
I hardly ever post any more, but I just had to read this thread today. I am sorry, but the Nobel USED TO mean something. But it has been down hill for a long, long time. It went from Gandhi and Mother Teresa to Yasar Arafat and Barack Obama in about 65 years. I could go to a soup kitchen or battered women's shelter in any town in this country and find someone who has done VASTLY more to bring peace to this God forsaken world than Mr. Obama. Those peoples vision might actually inspire us all... Mr. Obama's, I am sorry to say, doesn't come close to measuring up (IMHO).

If I am not mistaken, I believe the VOTING for this award, not just nominations, took place in February, some 11 days after the inauguration. 11 days! Mr. Obama didn't even know where the bathrooms were in the White House by that time! The committee, AND Mr. Obama should be ashamed and embarrassed. After all, the Nobel committee is from Norway, one of the WONDERFUL European countries Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi want to remake America after. And this is the kind of form over substance, political BS that will soon reign supreme in their "Brave New World". More so than it already is.

Sorry for the blast. I know I don't post much, so thank you for the opportunity to vent.

Chad

From one old Missouri boy (grew up in St Lou) to another...thanks for the post.

BTW---What did Greg Mortenson do wrong???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mortenson

Should be the proud recipeint based on ACHEIVEMENT!!:shock:

YardleyLabs
10-09-2009, 05:32 PM
Just for the fun pf it I post the following email I received today (needless to say, there was nothing personal about this email. Millions got the same):

"Jeff --

This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama "

road kill
10-09-2009, 05:34 PM
Just for the fun pf it I post the following email I received today (needless to say, there was nothing personal about this email. Millions got the same):

"Jeff --

This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama "

Sooooo, that's what a teleprompter looks like!!:shock:

road kill
10-09-2009, 05:36 PM
"But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

When was this ever the case?
This award was always about acheivement.
In this instance it's about a political slap in Bush's face, c'mon!!

Franco
10-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Amazing, I just received this email...

Franco-

This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Heisman Trophy for 2009.

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- Ricky Williams, O J Simpson, men who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of winning a National Championship, even though I can't pass, run or tackle.

But I also know that throughout history the Heisman Trophy has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes, like signing a huge NFL contract.

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met and one day, we will get Al Davis and Jerry Jones to sell thier teams.

This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people who have drank the kool-aide and worship me as the messiah. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to vote for a President with little to no qualifications and to also award me with the Heisman Trophy.

So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue to put pressure on the game officials to make sure the Bears win it all.

Salaam a lakeum,

President Barack Obama "

Franco
10-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Sorry Jeff, I just could help myself and the devil made me write this.;)

luvalab
10-09-2009, 06:38 PM
"But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

When was this ever the case?
This award was always about acheivement.
In this instance it's about a political slap in Bush's face, c'mon!!

Was listening to the radio... apparently Woodrow Wilson's work on the League of Nations (not approved by the US Senate, didn't happen).

I'd add Arafat, Peres, and Rabin.

Really--as the world is NOT at peace, most of the prizes award a concept rather than a reality.

That said, I don't understand today's announcement in the least, and if I have more internet time this evening I will be googling "Nobel Peace Prize Goldman-Sachs" and such-like.

The Nobel Peace Prize committee has "jumped the shark" on this one.

Pals
10-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Huh...funny thing he "said the exact same humble message". On the tube as well.

What a crock of crap. The really humble thing to do would have been to decline the award.

Pals
10-09-2009, 06:48 PM
Man I can't edit on the blackberry. They said on TV he is going to donate his 1.4 million to charity. ACORN perhaps????

Burnt Oak Retrievers
10-09-2009, 07:49 PM
"The Committee applauded the change in global mood wrought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation, and praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change."

There are some beauty queens out there who really got short changed cause I'm pretty sure I've heard those same goals several times in the Miss America pageant...

Franco
10-09-2009, 09:11 PM
"

There are some beauty queens out there who really got short changed cause I'm pretty sure I've heard those same goals several times in the Miss America pageant...

That is halarious and so true! Naive trumps common sense in the world of Nobel. If anything, Obama's weakness and inexperience has made the world more dangerous.

Buzz
10-09-2009, 09:24 PM
Man I can't edit on the blackberry. They said on TV he is going to donate his 1.4 million to charity. ACORN perhaps????

That would crack me up, but I wouldn't count on it.

Chad H
10-09-2009, 09:47 PM
BTW---What did Greg Mortenson do wrong???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mortenson

Should be the proud recipeint based on ACHEIVEMENT!!:shock:

The Norwegies, Probably took it hard that his family left Norway and moved to the New World so long ago. can't give it to a defector, that would be like giving it to a....... draft dogger or something! ;)

Steve Hester
10-09-2009, 09:48 PM
I would imagine Mr. Nobel just turned over in his grave.

Richard Halstead
10-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Man I can't edit on the blackberry. They said on TV he is going to donate his 1.4 million to charity. ACORN perhaps????


He probably donated the fund to te National Endowment for the Arts to paint more artwok of the Narcissistic leader.

M&K's Retrievers
10-09-2009, 11:36 PM
I don't know why Sandra Bulluck wasn't in the running for her part in Miss Congeniality. All she wanted was "world peace" :D

Richard Halstead
10-09-2009, 11:45 PM
I don't know why Sandra Bulluck wasn't in the running for her part in Miss Congeniality. All she wanted was "world peace" :D

cause she married Jessie James of West Coast Choppers

M&K's Retrievers
10-10-2009, 12:58 AM
Oh yeah :(

cotts135
10-10-2009, 06:54 AM
SOME????
A very small some!!:D

Here is something for you to gnash on. Taken from Crooksandliars.com


"And I think Tony needs to take a look at this from the good folks over at Think Progress with a snapshot of the media coverage of Republicans from back in January-- REPORT: GOP Lawmakers Outnumber Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News

As Media Matters has documented, during the Bush administration, the media consistently allowed conservatives to dominate their shows, booking them as guests far more often than progressives. The rationale was that Republicans were “in power.”

It appears that old habits die hard. Even though President Obama and his team are in control of the executive branch and Democrats are in the majority in Congress, the cable networks are still turning more often to Republicans and allowing them to set the agenda on major issues, most recently on the debate over the economic recovery package.

On Sunday, conservatives began an all-out assault on President Obama’s economic recovery plan, with House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) both announcing that they would vote against the plan as it stood. Despite Obama’s efforts at good faith outreach, congressional conservatives have continued to attack the stimulus plan with a series of false and disingenuous arguments.

The media have been aiding their efforts. In a new analysis, ThinkProgress has found that the five cable news networks — CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and CNBC — have hosted more Republican lawmakers to discuss the plan than Democrats by a 2 to 1 ratio this week."

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Hew
10-10-2009, 07:54 AM
Here is something for you to gnash on. Taken from Crooksandliars.com


"And I think Tony needs to take a look at this from the good folks over at Think Progress with a snapshot of the media coverage of Republicans from back in January-- REPORT: GOP Lawmakers Outnumber Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News

As Media Matters has documented, during the Bush administration, the media consistently allowed conservatives to dominate their shows, booking them as guests far more often than progressives. The rationale was that Republicans were “in power.”

It appears that old habits die hard. Even though President Obama and his team are in control of the executive branch and Democrats are in the majority in Congress, the cable networks are still turning more often to Republicans and allowing them to set the agenda on major issues, most recently on the debate over the economic recovery package.

On Sunday, conservatives began an all-out assault on President Obama’s economic recovery plan, with House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) both announcing that they would vote against the plan as it stood. Despite Obama’s efforts at good faith outreach, congressional conservatives have continued to attack the stimulus plan with a series of false and disingenuous arguments.

The media have been aiding their efforts. In a new analysis, ThinkProgress has found that the five cable news networks — CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and CNBC — have hosted more Republican lawmakers to discuss the plan than Democrats by a 2 to 1 ratio this week."
Bwaaaaaaa. And by "this week" they meant over the course of 3 days in the week immediately following the Obama inauguration. Gee, we never saw Obama or his peeps on TV around that time.

I'm totally with you Cotts...this in-depth and highly scientific study from those big brains over at ThinkCommunist....err ThinkProgress has me convinced that the media is a giant rightwing echo chamber.

subroc
10-10-2009, 09:04 AM
Here is something for you to gnash on. Taken from Crooksandliars.com


"And I think Tony needs to take a look at this from the good folks over at Think Progress with a snapshot of the media coverage of Republicans from back in January-- REPORT: GOP Lawmakers Outnumber Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News

As Media Matters has documented, during the Bush administration, the media consistently allowed conservatives to dominate their shows, booking them as guests far more often than progressives. The rationale was that Republicans were “in power.”

It appears that old habits die hard. Even though President Obama and his team are in control of the executive branch and Democrats are in the majority in Congress, the cable networks are still turning more often to Republicans and allowing them to set the agenda on major issues, most recently on the debate over the economic recovery package.

On Sunday, conservatives began an all-out assault on President Obama’s economic recovery plan, with House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) both announcing that they would vote against the plan as it stood. Despite Obama’s efforts at good faith outreach, congressional conservatives have continued to attack the stimulus plan with a series of false and disingenuous arguments.

The media have been aiding their efforts. In a new analysis, ThinkProgress has found that the five cable news networks — CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and CNBC — have hosted more Republican lawmakers to discuss the plan than Democrats by a 2 to 1 ratio this week."

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If the entire premise of the news programs is left wing, the host is left wing, the network is left wing, all positions presented are left wing, is there really a need to bring in a left wing guest to counter that?

This is a two-fold win. It allows left wing media to try for a bunch of “gotcha” moments for republican politicians and any on the right without putting democrat or those on the extreme left in the same position.

cotts135
10-10-2009, 09:29 AM
Bwaaaaaaa. And by "this week" they meant over the course of 3 days in the week immediately following the Obama inauguration. Gee, we never saw Obama or his peeps on TV around that time.

I'm totally with you Cotts...this in-depth and highly scientific study from those big brains over at ThinkCommunist....err ThinkProgress has me convinced that the media is a giant rightwing echo chamber.
My point in this is that the Liberal media bias that is constantly claimed is overblown. At no point did I state that the media is giant right wing echo chamber.

From Subroc:


If the entire premise of the news programs is left wing, the host is left wing, the network is left wing, all positions presented are left wing, is there really a need to bring in a left wing guest to counter that?
That's a big if on your first point. Ok I will give you the second point. A more than reasonable argument can be given for your third point since ABC is owned by Disney, Cbs by Viacom and NBC by General Electric hardly bastions of liberal thought. For your last statement, use all at your own peril.

TXduckdog
10-10-2009, 09:36 AM
I found it interesting that the "liberal media" has been very honest in its assessment. Almost unamimously, people, reporters are questioning this award. Kind of dispels some of the "liberal media" hype.

I think the CLEAR winner should have been George W. Bush. His leaving Washington DC was the greatest stride towards peace I can think of!!:eek:


Go ahead and take a vote of the purple thumbed people of Iraq on that one.

As far as the liberal media hype......this announcement is so shocking that even they don't know how to spin it.....they'll be back.

badbullgator
10-10-2009, 09:41 AM
This from MSNBC

Some called the prize the ultimate endorsement of a great president; others called it evidence that, once again, charisma had trumped results. Some called it a miracle; others called it a joke. Some believed Obama had earned the prize by uniting the country, rewriting black history and redeeming America in the eyes of the world; others said Obama had earned — and accomplished — nothing.

So let me see, those who think he deserved this feel that he has “united the country” yet the big song sung by the left is that the right is racist and radical and that the country is more divided than ever which is very evident. They feel he has “rewritten black history” mmmmm kay…… rewriting history is always good right???? They also feel he is worthy because he has “redeemed America in the eyes of the world”, I got it now he won for his apology tour and telling the world we are baaaaad…… Yeah if that is the criteria for a NPP I guess he fits it.
I can’t wait to see the spin on the Sunday shows telling us how this will inspire obongo and that somehow he really did earn it. By Monday he will be the greates winner of the NPP EVER!!!!!

subroc
10-10-2009, 10:01 AM
...A more than reasonable argument can be given for your third point since ABC is owned by Disney, Cbs by Viacom and NBC by General Electric hardly bastions of liberal thought...

Let’s not get off the subject. We were discussing networks, not ownership.

Clearly the networks you are illustrating are bastions of left wing thought and are clearly in the tank for obama.

But, that wasn't the thrust of your original assertion by way of an article of questionable origin.


...CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and CNBC...

These are the networks of your original assertion which are all cable networks. CNN, MSNBC and CNBC are bastions of the radical left. They don’t even make an attempt at being fair. Fox News and Fox Business “always” present both sides of political debate. Let me say this again: Fox News and Fox Business “always” present both sides of political debate. The thing that makes Fox different than all those others is that they do not have malice for republican or the right as a premise for their reporting. They accept both positions. They actually employ reporters from both political parties, unlike the others mentioned.

dnf777
10-10-2009, 10:28 AM
These are the networks of your original assertion which are all cable networks. CNN, MSNBC and CNBC are bastions of the radical left. They don’t even make an attempt at being fair. Fox News and Fox Business “always” present both sides of political debate. Let me say this again: Fox News and Fox Business “always” present both sides of political debate. The thing that makes Fox different than all those others is that they do not have malice for republican or the right as a premise for their reporting. They accept both positions. They actually employ reporters from both political parties, unlike the others mentioned.

In your "unbiased" opinion?

This is a dead-end argument. CNN is NOT unbiased, and Fox is certainly NOT unbiased. Who is "more biased" will depend on who you ask.

dback
10-10-2009, 10:29 AM
This from MSNBC

Some called the prize the ultimate endorsement of a great president; others called it evidence that, once again, charisma had trumped results. Some called it a miracle; others called it a joke. Some believed Obama had earned the prize by uniting the country, rewriting black history and redeeming America in the eyes of the world; others said Obama had earned — and accomplished — nothing.

So let me see, those who think he deserved this feel that he has “united the country” yet the big song sung by the left is that the right is racist and radical and that the country is more divided than ever which is very evident. They feel he has “rewritten black history” mmmmm kay…… rewriting history is always good right???? They also feel he is worthy because he has “redeemed America in the eyes of the world”, I got it now he won for his apology tour and telling the world we are baaaaad…… Yeah if that is the criteria for a NPP I guess he fits it.
I can’t wait to see the spin on the Sunday shows telling us how this will inspire obongo and that somehow he really did earn it. By Monday he will be the greates winner of the NPP EVER!!!!!


Com'on Corey...You've gotta admit, we've never seen the country and the world so united..........in laughter!

road kill
10-10-2009, 10:41 AM
In your "unbiased" opinion?

This is a dead-end argument. CNN is NOT unbiased, and Fox is certainly NOT unbiased. Who is "more biased" will depend on who you ask.
Depends on the individual, Hannity is most certainly biased.
But so are the anchors and majority of the reporters (I use that term loosely) on the "Mainstream" media.
I throw Matthews and "Hardball" on the left side, don't you??

I do give O'Reilly some benefit of the doubt.
Though I beleive him a conservative, he does try to give all sides a say.
I think he puts forth an effort to remain unbiased until he forms his opinion based on the facts as he sees them.
Isn't that what we all do?

I like his regular guest Dr. Hill form PA.
A true democrat and social liberal, not a scraming idealogue.
I like to hear his side because he presents it well.
In fact, I like hearing Sharpton on O'Reillly's show, Sharpton is out there, but presents his side well.

Buzz
10-10-2009, 10:43 AM
Another view on the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o&feature=player_embedded

road kill
10-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Another view on the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o&feature=player_embedded


Now....there is an unbiased veiw!!:rolleyes:

Buzz
10-10-2009, 10:53 AM
Now....there is an unbiased veiw!!:rolleyes:

No more biased than the links posted on here from World Net Daily and FOX News.

I did say another view didn't I?

luvalab
10-10-2009, 10:53 AM
Have we totally lost all ability to discern fact from opinion?

Have we gotten so lazy we don't want to bother with evaluating facts, and skip straight to the narcissistic "I believe" based on absolutely nothing?

So often, we are talking about talking heads as if they were presenting us news, and as if they were worthy to present opinion.

Why why why why why???

subroc
10-10-2009, 11:01 AM
While I had heard there was a person called Rachel Maddow, I had never actually saw her show. Her presentation seems like a female version of Keith Olbermann.

Roger Perry
10-10-2009, 11:37 AM
[quote=road kill;510462]"But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

When was this ever the case?
This award was always about acheivement.
In this instance it's about a political slap in Bush's face, c'mon!!quote]

Just how many time was George Bush won the Noble Peace Prize?


Woops, I guess you do not get the Nobel Peace Prize for starting wars.:snipersmile:

dnf777
10-10-2009, 12:10 PM
While I had heard there was a person called Rachel Maddow, I had never actually saw her show. Her presentation seems like a female version of Keith Olbermann.

Rachel Maddow is an openly lesbian commentator, who was raised in a strict Catholic community, earned an undergraduate degree from Stanford in public policy, and eventually a PhD (DPhil.) from Oxford as a Rhodes scholar. She worked her way up from local radio stations all the way to her own tv show on MSNBC.

She is obviously left of left, but is very insightful and often has interesting commentery. She is no dummy, although a little too left for me most of the time. I will give her credit for having some very adversarial guests on her show, and always winds up having a very civil debate ON THE TOPICS, while many other shows decay into political detritus. I think the majority of her guests, while staunch opponents, most often show her a high level of respect, and recieve the same in return.

gman0046
10-11-2009, 12:26 PM
A far cry from "Michelle My Belle".

subroc
10-12-2009, 12:58 PM
Nobel fails to recognize obama???????

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-fails-to-win-nobel-prize-in-economics-2009-10-12

ducknwork
10-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Nobel fails to recognize obama???????

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-fails-to-win-nobel-prize-in-economics-2009-10-12

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Uncle Bill
10-13-2009, 11:34 AM
A couple of commentaries from The Patriot Post that states it in terms with which I can agree. UB

Political Futures

"This year's awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama can only hasten the decline in prestige of an award that has already gone to people like Yasser Arafat, UN General Secretary Kofi Annan (who presided over the Iraqi oil-for-food scam) and the fabulist Guatemalan activist Rigoberta Menchu. For this year's Nobel, the deadline was February 1, barely ten days after Mr. Obama had assumed the presidency. Though the Nobel committee of five Norwegian politicians presumably considered the evidence over the summer, it's fair to say their award represents little more than wishful thinking that Mr. Obama's diplomatic efforts will ultimately bear fruit. Other U.S. Presidents have won Nobels, but for actual accomplishments. Teddy Roosevelt helped broker a peace treaty between Russia and Japan. Woodrow Wilson worked to build a lasting peace after the end of World War I, however unsuccessful that effort later proved. Even Jimmy Carter won the Peace Prize in 2002 after more than two decades of humanitarian efforts as a former president. The Nobel Committee is said often to make its final decision at its last meeting just before the announcement. If so, President Obama has gotten a consolation prize for the failure of the U.S. to secure the 2016 Olympics. But that won't take away the sense that his award has more to do with political correctness than the realities of peace. Reading the Nobel Committee's explanation of its decision, President Obama appears to have won this year's prize because he's not his predecessor, George W. Bush." --Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund
Culture

"It is absurd and it is embarrassing. It would even be infuriating if it were not such a declaration of emptiness. The Norwegian Nobel Committee has embarrassed itself and cheapened a great award that had real meaning. It was a good thing, the Nobel Peace Prize. Every year the giving of it was a matter of note throughout the world, almost a matter of state. It was serious. It mattered that it was given to a woman like Mother Teresa in 1979. ... Her life was heroic, epic, and when she was given the Nobel Peace Prize, it was as if the world were saying, 'You are the best we have. You are living a life that should be emulated.' ... Some Peace Prizes have been more roughly political, or had a political edge, and were of course debatable. ... It was always absurd that Ronald Reagan, whose political project led to the end of the gulag and the fall of the Berlin Wall, and who gambled his personal standing in the world for a system that would protect the common man from annihilation in a nuclear missile attack, could not win it. But nobody wept over it, and for one reason: because everyone, every sentient adult who cared to know about such things, knew that the Nobel Peace Prize is, when awarded to a political figure, a great and prestigious award given by liberals to liberals. NCNA -- no conservatives need apply. This is the way of the world, and so what? Life isn't for prizes. Yet even within that context, the giving of the peace prize to President Obama is absurd. He doesn't have a body of work; he's a young man; he's been president less than nine months. He hopes to accomplish much, and so far -- nine months! -- has accomplished little. Is this a life of heroic self-denial, of the sacrifice of self for something greater, of huge and historic consequence, of sustained vision? No it's not. Is this a life marked by a vivid and calculable contribution to the peace of the world? No, it's not. This is an award for not being George W. Bush. This is an award for not making the world nervous. This is an award for sharing the basic political sentiments and assumptions of the members of the committee. It is for what Barack Obama may do, not what he has done. He hasn't done anything. In one mindless stroke, the committee has rendered the Nobel Peace Prize a laughingstock." --columnist Peggy Noonan (http://link.patriotpost.us/?136-1045-1045-44834-10770)
Opinion in Brief

"The whole business of a bunch of Scandinavian worthies doling out the profits of a long-gone dynamite maker's fortune has always smacked of the worst sort of self-satisfied plutocratic worthiness. But this takes the biscuit. President Obama remains the barely man of world politics, barely a senator now barely a president, yet in the land of the Euro-weenies (copyright PJ O'Rourke) the great and the good remain in his thrall. To reward him for a blank results sheet, to inflate him when he has no achievements to his name, makes a mockery of what, let's face it, is an already fairly discredited process (remember Rigoberta Menchu in 1992? Ha!). That's not the point. What this does is accelerate the elevation of President Obama to a comedy confection, which he does not deserve, and gives his critics yet another bat to whack him with. Shame on the Norwegians." --London's Daily Telegraph chief political commentator Benedict Brogan

TXduckdog
10-13-2009, 11:42 AM
The Fund article is particularly good.

subroc
10-13-2009, 12:28 PM
Here is an article that continues to question the awarding of the prize. This is an AP article, so the thing that makde me take notice was this line:


The left-leaning committee whose members are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament...

If the AP, a left wing news outlet itself, is calling them "left-leaning" it pretty much tells the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nobel_peace_obama

YardleyLabs
10-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Here is an article that continues to question the awarding of the prize. This is an AP article, so the thing that makde me take notice was this line:



If the AP, a left wing news outlet itself, is calling them "left-leaning" it pretty much tells the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nobel_peace_obama
The members of the committee are appointed by the Norwegian legislature and include representatives of both liberal and conservative parties from that country. This is, in fact, a requirement of Nobel's will and has always been the case.

subroc
10-13-2009, 12:50 PM
If you say so. My point was if AP calls them left leaning, they must be extreme left wing.

Julie R.
10-13-2009, 01:47 PM
I believe the will only stipulated that the selectors all be from Norway and that the selection of the committee is political in nature. And I'd venture to guess a conservative Norwegian politician is akin to a moderate socialist.

Actually I've been surprised at the press reaction from such strong support bases as the Chicago Tribune and Washington Post. The Trib actually ran a pretty funny piece about the "Hopium" of the 12-day miracle of the new president leading to the award:


Isn't it great that President Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize?

He'd been in office only 12 days when the Nobel nominations were due. That's a mere 288 hours for Obama to have been credentialed as President Peace.

It's not every day that a Chicago politician with City Hall guys running the White House goes and wins the Nobel Prize. So when the news broke last week, a bold decree was read across the land:

Henceforth, the 12 glorious days shall be known as Barack's Golden Almost-Fortnight; or Barack's Amazing Days of Peace, Harmony, and Universal Love!

The prize is probably the last thing Obama wanted, since it practically writes skits for "Saturday Night Live." And to his credit, he was quite modest in accepting the award.

"To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures who have been honored by this prize, men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace," said Obama, who unlike his media cheerleaders is grounded in a place called reality.

The last time a politician from Illinois was nominated, it was former Republican Gov. George Ryan, who was about to stand trial for corruption. Ryan's Nobel nomination, for clearing Illinois' Death Row, was understood by anyone with a brain as a vulgar attempt to sway the jury that ultimately convicted him.

Ryan has won no prizes in federal prison, unless you count the pouches of tuna he must be hoarding, to curry favor with inmates who covet extra protein, guys with those blue Mike Tyson tattoos on their faces.

Sadly, there were no Nobel laurels for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat facing his own federal corruption trial. He came close with those free CTA rides to seniors, but he must content himself with a gig on TV's "Celebrity Apprentice" with Donald Trump.

Last January, at the beginning of those 12 Amazing Days, thick clouds of Hopium wafted over us. So there is a slight chance I inhaled, repeatedly, and became confused about those early, heady days. Yet through the fog of time and Hopium, I remember it as a time of high adventure; of gentle forest creatures and centaurs banding together to fight cynicism and sprinkle hope upon the people. It was a time of tea and cakes.

On the First Day, tens of thousands waited hours and packed the National Mall to hear his inaugural speech. They were so cold, tired and hungry. Obama brought forth two McDonald's Filet-O-Fish sandwiches and five burger buns, broke them and distributed these among the people. All were nourished, with plenty of scraps left over for the starving Republicans.

The next day, Obama journeyed to the tomb of the Republican Party, which had shot itself repeatedly in the foot until it died. There in the shadowy rocks, Barack bent over the corpses of commentators Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and breathed new life into them.

"Rise, my good friends!" cried Barack. "I give you purpose! Rise and flap your gums, call me socialist and enrich yourselves. Blame me, though George Bush started the federal bailouts. Rise and prosper!"

And they did as they were told. They had new life and plenty of money.

On the Third Day, he bid adieu to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, who'd spent the night at the White House to make sure things would run smoothly. This was proper, since years ago, the Daley women found the infant Barack floating in a reed basket along the banks of the Chicago River. They nurtured the crying babe, until he was ready to transcend the politics of the past.

Obama spent the Fourth Day pondering getting a dog for daughters Sasha and Malia. Journalists were so enraptured, so turgid with glee about the dog, they forgot to ask if he'd walk Bo and scoop up his legacies with a plastic bag from the Jewel like every other American dad. And things were good.

On the Fifth Day, Gov. Blagojevich sent the president a life-size wooden puppet named Roland. Barack placed his palm on the puppet's forehead, and lo, the puppet became a United States senator. And the Democrats, with a solid majority, were amazed.

For seven more days it continued, one miracle after another. The president picked the Steelers in the Super Bowl. They won. He submitted an $885 billion stimulus plan to Congress. The money was printed. He nominated a tax cheat for secretary of the Treasury. The tax cheat was confirmed.

"This is not how I expected to wake up this morning," said Obama on Friday. "Malia walked in and said, 'Daddy, you won the Nobel Peace Prize, and it's Bo's birthday.' And then Sasha added, 'Plus we have a three-day weekend coming up.' It's good to have kids to keep things in perspective."

It's good that the Nobel committee has things in perspective, too, recognizing his 12 Amazing Days of Peace, Harmony and Universal Love (may their memories forever burn brightly).

Oh, what a time it was. Now please pass the Hopium.


And the Post offered up this analysis Sunday by an author of Norwegian descent:


Norwegians have spent centuries living down the Vikings' lust for conquest and adventure. But they have never quite exterminated it. The result is a nation of well-meaning idealists who cannot resist meddling if they can insist it is all in a good cause. Perfect background for a columnist, did I hear you mutter? Or for a committee telling Americans how much they should honor and support their new president?

The election of the first African American president deserves global recognition. But if that is the committee's intent, the Nobel should have been given to the American electorate. Instead, my compatriots several generations removed intend this award to a first-year U.S. president as a down payment on peace agreements to come, to encourage even more splendid speeches and U.N. votes for multilateralism. The prize committee members are applying the definition often attributed to Winston Churchill of gratitude as an expresssion of thanks for favors yet to come.

But they neglect, at our risk, the doctrine of unintended consequences. They are dealing the award to a White House that micromanages perceptions, and vote-mazimizing images and to an American nation that is far more pragmatic than the Norwegians assume. This premature Nobel may well empower Obama, a calculating left-of-centrist, to become even more muscular in deed while continuing to talk about a peaceful, denuclearized world. See Afghanistan, Guantanamo, rendition, etc., etc.

I wonder what the 1989 Nobel laureate, His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, really thinks about Obama being awarded the prize during the same week the president put off receiving the Tibetan spiritual leader for fear of offending the Chinese dictatorship. Come to think of it, wonder what Bill Clinton, who did receive the Dalai Lama while negotiationg with China, is saying about a Nobel awarded for intentions rather than the kind of hard work Clinton put in on Northern Ireland, Haiti, the Balkans and the Middle East? On second thought, we probably don't want to know.

There will also be the unintended consequence of producing resentment or envy among Obama's fellow world leaders--particularly in Europe, where the U.S. president has already developed a reputation for showing indifference or personal arrogance toward some of his most important peers....
Much of the bubbling resentment in European chanceries has to do with something that can easily be fixed: a deepening frustration over Obama aides rushing the president into the spotlight at the expense of other national leaders and offering misleading interpretations of major events to make their boss look good. See the U.S. press accounts of Iran's Geneva "agreement" to enrich uranium abroad, which European officials describe as little more than an Iranian willingness to talk about that idea some day.

These politically correct Vikings may have given Obama not the boost toward greatness they intend but rather a crippling burden--if he and his staff take the award too seriously. This is, after all, a White House still in campaign mode and engaged in continuous Obamacentric perception management.

Ultimately, harsh realities trump such self-centered message control. Ultimately, perceptions come to manage such image-obsessed administrations, Nobel or no.

ducknwork
10-13-2009, 02:23 PM
The Nobel committee attempts to explain their choice...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nobel_peace_obama
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road kill
10-13-2009, 04:03 PM
If you say so. My point was if AP calls them left leaning, they must be extreme left wing.
The only people who didn't get your point didn't want to!!:D

cotts135
10-15-2009, 07:01 AM
When I first heard that President Obama had won the Nobel Peace prize my reaction I am sure was the same as most on this board. WTF........... anyway I listened to both sides of the debate and figured this was a bad year for candidates and Obama was the least painfule choice. Sort of like our elections.
After reading an article my Matt Taibbi I now think he has a better grasp of it than most. Some quotes


The Nobel Peace Prize long ago ceased to be an award given to people who really spend their whole careers agitating for peace. Like most awards the Prize has evolved into a kind of maraschino cherry for hardcore careerists to place atop their resumes, a reward not for dissidence but on the contrary for gamely upholding the values of Western society as it perceives itself, for putting a good face on things (in Obama’s place, literally so).


Even when the award is given to a genuine dissident, it tends to be a dissident hailing from a country we consider outside the fold of Western civilization, a rogue state, “not one of us” — South Africa from the apartheid days, for instance, or the regime occupying East Timor.


More likely the Obama critics who believe that Obama won this award for not being George Bush are right as well. The problem the international community had with Bush wasn’t that he believed in war and the use of force, it was that he believed in the unilateral use of these things. Bush did not believe in the use of force as an expression of a whole society’s values, he believed in it as an expression of his own machismo.

The full article can be found here http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/10/13/on-the-nobel-prize-for-occasional-peace/

subroc
10-15-2009, 07:36 AM
One great thing about the internet, and this works for every side or a political argument or debate, if you search long enough, you can always find an article that uses twisted, convoluted logic to shore up your position

Uncle Bill
10-15-2009, 10:52 AM
WHOA THERE!!! Even BIGGER NEWS!

Inside news from Nashville
Obama Named Country Music Entertainer of the Year
Surprise Selection Shocks Nashville


NASHVILLE (The Borowitz Report) - President Barack Obama stunned the country music world today by picking up its highest honor, Country Music Entertainer of the Year.

Mr. Obama was chosen unanimously, according to the Country Music Association, beating out such favorite as Carrie Underwood and Toby Keith.

In Nashville, country music insiders were shocked by Mr. Obama's selection, given that he has only been in office for eight months and during that time has yet to record a single country song.

But Mr. Obama was gracious in receiving the honor, saying that he was "honored and humbled" by the award before excusing himself to accept this year's Heisman Trophy.

Pete
10-15-2009, 11:03 AM
Why not award the prize to anyone of the "miss America pagents. They and Obama have accomplished the exact same things.

They have both stood up in front of a TV screen and said
"I want world peace" I wish we could just get along,
The only difference is when a pagent contestant says it ,,people look at her like a dumb bimbo

When Obama says it people gasp for air and melt,,,become blush and are spiritualy moved by it.

Just an observation

Pete

ducknwork
10-15-2009, 11:51 AM
I would love to look at a Miss America contestant rather than Barack Obama in the White House any day.

I wonder if we could still get some of those beach photos of them like the ones of the messiah a while back. *fingers crossed*
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Bob Gutermuth
10-15-2009, 12:02 PM
Sooner or later even the folks who voted for him are going to have to realize that he is not the second coming.