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Roger Perry
10-16-2009, 03:33 PM
For Republicans looking forward to the first Bush-free election in a decade, the book publishing schedule is the bearer of bad news: Between New Year’s Day and next November, as many as five Bush administration officials — including the former president himself — will rehash history in hardback.

The literary luge ride down memory lane shoves off with a return to the economic collapse via former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson’s (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/HenryPaulson) “On the Brink: Inside the Race to Stop the Collapse of the Global Financial System,” due out from Business Plus in January.

Former first lady Laura Bush’s (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/LauraBush) White House memoir tees up next, expected from Scribner in the spring.

Former President George W. Bush’s (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/GeorgeWBush) own book, tentatively titled “Decision Points,” will follow in the fall from Random House’s Crown Publishing and will recount a dozen pivotal choices Bush faced and how he made them — a trip back to the days of “the decider” that’s bound to spark talk of what it omits as much as what it contains.

A candid chronicle from former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/DonaldRumsfeld) — who told The AP that his Iraq war years would “certainly” be covered in his manuscript — is also expected to hit the shelves in the autumn, published by Penguin’s Sentinel imprint.

And onetime White House chief strategist Karl Rove’s (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/KarlRove) book is also reportedly due out in 2010, although his publisher, Threshold Editions, a conservative imprint of Simon & Schuster headed by Republican strategist Mary Matalin, would not confirm that date.

Nor would Threshold Editions confirm the widely reported 2011 release date for former Vice President Dick Cheney’s (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/DickCheney) memoir, which promises to be the most controversial of the lot — and Matalin could not be reached for comment on whether the decision to release the book after the midterm elections was a strategic one.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28261.html

subroc
10-16-2009, 03:44 PM
haunt??????

A left wing canard.

K G
10-16-2009, 04:14 PM
I didn't even need to look to see who started this thread.....

Folks in the BHO administration are missing their opportunity to change the monetary/banking policies that they vilified Bush 43 for. It won't be long before we have another crash...one that can't be blamed on Bush 43...

Hurry up 2010 and 2012....

kg

dnf777
10-16-2009, 04:25 PM
Mr. W. Bush write a book? I'm not even going there......

subroc
10-16-2009, 04:29 PM
Yah, a guy that could pass the rigorous qualification to become a fighter pilot, I doubt he could ever write a book.

Not to worry though, he has a wife that is an educator. If he needs help with his spelling and such, he could just ask her.

Roger Perry
10-16-2009, 04:34 PM
Yah, a guy that could pass the rigorous qualification to become a fighter pilot, I doubt he could ever write a book.

Not to worry though, he has a wife that is an educator. If he needs help with his spelling and such, he could just ask her.

W's book is going to be about all the bushisms. Should be close to 1,000 pages long. ;)

Here are a few excerps:

"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"So I analyzed that and decided I didn't want to be the president during a depression greater than the Great Depression, or the beginning of a depression greater than the Great Depression."—Washington D.C., Dec. 18, 2008

Buzz
10-16-2009, 04:34 PM
Yah, a guy that could pass the rigorous qualification to become a fighter pilot, I doubt he could ever write a book.

Not to worry though, he has a wife that is an educator. If he needs help with his spelling and such, he could just ask her.


Yup, I imagine that flying a fighter would be a good jumping off point for just about anything.

dnf777
10-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Yah, a guy that could pass the rigorous qualification to become a fighter pilot, I doubt he could ever write a book.

Not to worry though, he has a wife that is an educator. If he needs help with his spelling and such, he could just ask her.

We don't know if he could pass the physicals since he didn't bother to show up!

subroc
10-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Yup, I imagine that flying a fighter would be a good jumping off point for just about anything.

Especially, when taking the left wing talking point on intelligence and giving it no merit, if nothing else.

I expect that must be just like being stung for a lefty when trying to posit that President George W. Bush isn't all that bright. It was really great when during the election when the left tried to posit that kerry was the smarter of the two and President George W. Bush had the better overall college transcripts.

subroc
10-16-2009, 04:50 PM
President George W. Bush

dnf777
10-16-2009, 05:13 PM
Especially, when taking the left wing talking point on intelligence and giving it no merit, if nothing else.

I expect that must be just like being stung for a lefty when trying to posit that President George W. Bush isn't all that bright. It was really great when during the election when the left tried to posit that kerry was the smarter of the two and President George W. Bush had the better overall college transcripts.

If you're going to insist on proper etiquette, might as well refer to 'kerry' as Mr. Kerry, or Senator Kerry, just to be consistent and show you're sincere.;-) But for the record, it is acceptable to refer to the president as "Mr. President, Mr. [Name], or Pres. [Name]". There is nothing disrespectful of "Mr. Bush." I haven't seen you correct the monikers of "osama", or "obongo", or maybe it's ok to disrespect a democratic president?

BonMallari
10-16-2009, 05:23 PM
wow we have come a long way on this board , we are all the way back to who had the better grades John Kerry or GW Bush...I didnt know that was going to be on the test..Some of you on here just cant seem to let go of the past....bet you hold grudges against the first gal that turned down an invitation for a date,or the kid that shoved you in a school locker..

subroc
10-16-2009, 05:52 PM
If you're going to insist on proper etiquette, might as well refer to 'kerry' as Mr. Kerry, or Senator Kerry, just to be consistent and show you're sincere.;-) But for the record, it is acceptable to refer to the president as "Mr. President, Mr. [Name], or Pres. [Name]". There is nothing disrespectful of "Mr. Bush." I haven't seen you correct the monikers of "osama", or "obongo", or maybe it's ok to disrespect a democratic president?

I am not correcting anyone. I don't insist on proper etiquette from anyone. I hope they bring it to the table, but far be it for me to insist on anything. I am just, in this case, giving President George W. Bush some respect. In doing that, I happen to know that those on the left, like you, are incensed by it, which is good enough for me.

Steve Amrein
10-16-2009, 05:54 PM
wow we have come a long way on this board , we are all the way back to who had the better grades John Kerry or GW Bush...I didnt know that was going to be on the test..Some of you on here just cant seem to let go of the past....bet you hold grudges against the first gal that turned down an invitation for a date,or the kid that shoved you in a school locker..


Or the 1st snipe hunt:)

dnf777
10-16-2009, 06:54 PM
I am not correcting anyone. I don't insist on proper etiquette from anyone. I hope they bring it to the table, but far be it for me to insist on anything. I am just, in this case, giving President George W. Bush some respect. In doing that, I happen to know that those on the left, like you, are incensed by it, which is good enough for me.

Please show me where I've not referred to any POTUS in other than proper form. I show that much respect. When you refer to "they bring it to the table", is that also applicable to those who refer to Obama as "osama" or "obongo"? Proper etiquette applies to both parties, does it not?

And while some of my views are liberal, many are conservative. I guess when you're up against the wall right, everything appears left.

subroc
10-16-2009, 07:21 PM
Please show me where I've not referred to any POTUS in other than proper form. I show that much respect. When you refer to "they bring it to the table", is that also applicable to those who refer to Obama as "osama" or "obongo"? Proper etiquette applies to both parties, does it not?...

See previous post…

Since it might not have been clear the first time, I will repost my position:


I am not correcting anyone. I don't insist on proper etiquette from anyone. I hope they bring it to the table, but far be it for me to insist on anything. I am just, in this case, giving President George W. Bush some respect. In doing that, I happen to know that those on the left, like you, are incensed by it, which is good enough for me.

This might not include you, but it clearly is aimed at those on the left. While you may be left, you may have respect for President George W. Bush. I will watch for it in the future to see how you convey that respect.

BTW, the posting of President George W. Bush in bold/large form text is just as I said:


…in this case, giving President George W. Bush some respect.

As far as the obongo/osama issue, I don’t really care how anyone else views him.

My position on liberal politicians: I believe they are a danger to the nation and are not worthy, at least from my point of view, of the respect of capitalizing their last name or adding their title. I don’t name call, unless you consider “left wing radical extremist (or some variation)” name calling. If you do, I am guilty.

Your mileage may vary…


…And while some of my views are liberal, many are conservative. I guess when you're up against the wall right, everything appears left.

If you say so, I have no problem with where you think or believe I am on the political spectrum.

luvmylabs23139
10-16-2009, 08:07 PM
BUMMFACE is a communist and is out to destroy everything this country stands for. He will never get any respect from me!!!!
HE can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned!!!!!!

dnf777
10-16-2009, 08:10 PM
BUMMFACE is a communist and is out to destroy everything this country stands for. He will never get any respect from me!!!!
HE can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned!!!!!!

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'll still refer to him as George W. Bush, if that's ok with you. :p

Captain Mike D
10-16-2009, 10:46 PM
So Roger,

I have met you at a couple of trials and you seem to be an OK guy while you sit and watch your pro run your dogs.

Please tell me why you are so obsessed with making those with conservative views such as Rush, GW, and far more we will soon be discussing as your sworn enemies?

Obviously you have accumulated some wealth over the years before you retired or your dogs would not be in the hands of a pro with depth in her resume
Did make it in a free market system as the origionator of an innovative business, inherit from wealthy parents, a union employee, or as an attorney working for a lobby. I bet your answer will be none of the above, but I bet it will be interesting.

Please fill in the details. You can do it by PM if you would like, this is not intended to be a flame thrower post

Really would like to know, cause I am having trouble trying to figure out why a successful person like yourself would not be in favor of a free market system.

Won't get to see you up in Jax next weeekend but good luck!


Mike

ducknwork
10-16-2009, 11:22 PM
So Roger,

I have met you at a couple of trials and you seem to be an OK guy while you sit and watch your pro run your dogs.

Please tell me why you are so obsessed with making those with conservative views such as Rush, GW, and far more we will soon be discussing as your sworn enemies?

Obviously you have accumulated some wealth over the years before you retired or your dogs would not be in the hands of a pro with depth in her resume
Did make it in a free market system as the origionator of an innovative business, inherit from wealthy parents, a union employee, or as an attorney working for a lobby. I bet your answer will be none of the above, but I bet it will be interesting.

Please fill in the details. You can do it by PM if you would like, this is not intended to be a flame thrower post

Really would like to know, cause I am having trouble trying to figure out why a successful person like yourself would not be in favor of a free market system.

Won't get to see you up in Jax next weeekend but good luck!


Mike

I bet he's the kind of guy who mooches off a sugar mama...:D
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Buzz
10-16-2009, 11:29 PM
So Roger,


Really would like to know, cause I am having trouble trying to figure out why a successful person like yourself would not be in favor of a free market system.


Mike

I've never seen anything out of Roger that would lead me to think that he's not in favor of a free market system.:confused:

cotts135
10-17-2009, 07:10 AM
I didn't even need to look to see who started this thread.....

Folks in the BHO administration are missing their opportunity to change the monetary/banking policies that they vilified Bush 43 for. It won't be long before we have another crash...one that can't be blamed on Bush 43...

Hurry up 2010 and 2012....

kg

Absolutely correct in that assessment as far as I am concerned. Major overhaul of the financial industry is needed some of which includes transparency of the derivatives market. A bill in the house supported by Representative Frank is filled with many loopholes and virtually has no teeth at all.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7fAFtZGaGAk

Another problem as I see it is this constant revolving door of Wall St. executives (primarily Goldman Sachs) shuttling between positions of huge importance in Government and then back to Wall St. Just this week another Goldman Sachs exec was named chief operating officer of the Securities and Exchange Commission's enforcement division. Adam Storch,who was the vice president in Goldman Sachs' Business Intelligence Group, is assuming the new position of managing executive of the SEC division. This follows a long line of similar appointments ie: Neel Kashkari, Hank Paulson, and Tim Geithner. Until the crooks are taken out of position of enforcement we will continue to see the destructive market cycles that have plagued us for the past 10-15 yrs

subroc
10-17-2009, 07:57 AM
The SEC has always been a bit dirty. After all, the first chairman was Joseph P Kennedy.

Roger Perry
10-17-2009, 02:19 PM
Especially, when taking the left wing talking point on intelligence and giving it no merit, if nothing else.

I expect that must be just like being stung for a lefty when trying to posit that President George W. Bush isn't all that bright. It was really great when during the election when the left tried to posit that kerry was the smarter of the two and President George W. Bush had the better overall college transcripts.

I don't recall Bush ever releasing his transcripts

Dumbya too dumb to get into law school?


The Starr Report: October 12, 1999
Despite Yale diploma, George W. was
rejected by U of Texas Law School
By Linda L. Starr

George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in 1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school! How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch the Golden Boy of the GOP?


According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate developer turned space rocket entrepreneur (http://victorian.fortunecity.com/brambles/499/Bush/LawSchool/lawschool.html#) David Hannah -- Dumbya was pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home, father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?" Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then.

K G
10-17-2009, 02:35 PM
So I guess the other points made here don't register with you, Roger?

You can't see the forest for the Bush regards, ;-)

kg

subroc
10-17-2009, 02:49 PM
I don't recall Bush ever releasing his transcripts...
A simple, one line, internet search will give you all the articles one could want.

President George W. Bush was smarter than kerry. Not by much, but when we are measuring the greater brainpower that the left likes to bestow on their candidates, even a point or two would be an exponetial increase.

Captain Mike D
10-19-2009, 01:10 PM
I've never seen anything out of Roger that would lead me to think that he's not in favor of a free market system.:confused:

Hum... Buzz,

Don't think my my question was directed towards you. Think I was asking Roger and as of yet I have not heard a chirp, though I do have ringing, and other strange sound in both ears due to tinitus.

Mike

Roger Perry
10-20-2009, 11:11 AM
Hum... Buzz,

Don't think my my question was directed towards you. Think I was asking Roger and as of yet I have not heard a chirp, though I do have ringing, and other strange sound in both ears due to tinitus.

Mike

I am a realtor not that it is any of your business. And I do not believe Obama is taking us into socialism any more than Dumbya did.


RNC mulls accusing Bush of 'socialism' Nick Juliano
Published: Tuesday December 30, 2008


http://rawstory.com/images/new/bushbailoutbillsignovaloffice.jpgThe divisions taking hold among Republicans are becoming more severe as the party prepares to accuse its outgoing president of embracing "socialism."

The slur that conservatives were so fond of lobbing at Barack Obama during the presidential campaign is now being directed toward President Bush and GOP lawmakers who supported federal bailouts of the banking and auto industries.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/RNC_mulls_accusing_Bush_of_socialism_1230.html

Republican leaders in both the House and Senate supported the Wall Street bailout, and GOP presidential candidate John McCain infamously "suspended" his campaign to return to Washington and whip up support for the bill. A Republican-led filibuster blocked the auto industry bailout in the Senate, but Bush decided to use some of the previously approved $700 billion to grant loans to the car companies.

subroc
10-20-2009, 11:16 AM
I have no problem calling some of President George W. Bush policies socialist. His prescription drug benefit could easily be called a social program.

The bailouts clearly are.

Roger Perry
10-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Bailed-out bank CEOs still living large while many Americans suffer (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20055)

Banks that sucked on the public tit of government bailout funds continue to ladle out lavish perks and benefits to the very executives who led them into financial chaos and, in too many cases, the federal government is sitting back and letting it happen.
While cash-strapped Americans find themselves slapped with 29 percent interest rates from the banks that they helped bail out as taxpayers, the financial institutions hand out huge bonuses and fly their top execs around on private jets and pay the tab for luxury hotels and fancy "corporate apartments."
They ride around in chauffeured limos, play golf at exclusive country clubs with their employers picking up the tab and see little of the pain and suffering that they helped inflict upon many Americans.
Perks for top executives at troubled banks rose an average of four percent last year. In the meantime, Social Security face the coming year with no cost-of-living increase in their benefits and millions of Americans will lose unemployment benefits when they run out soon.
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Wasn't it Dumbya that bailed out the banks?

K G
10-21-2009, 08:47 PM
And BHO has left the debt outstanding....so what if he's going to cut the salaries of the top executives of the 7 entities that took the most money. Big whoop....if he wants to make an impact, he should force banks that have held on to the TARP money to LEND it to people so that they can SPEND it and grow the economy! What a concept!!!!

Where's the "CHANGE" bill of goods that we were all sold? WHERE IS IT??????:-x

kg

dnf777
10-21-2009, 09:53 PM
....if he wants to make an impact, he should force banks that have held on to the TARP money to LEND it to people so that they can SPEND it and grow the economy! What a concept!!!!

you must have missed his latest announcement. That's exactly what he introduced. Lets hope it works.

TXduckdog
10-22-2009, 03:49 PM
I hear it's going to be the same old loose qualification standards in the form of consumer loans and credit cards.

We don't need that kind of credit boondoggle again. The smarty pants on Wall St will find a way to gather up all those loans or creditcards and package them together in derivatives and sell them and banks will collapse again, maybe this time for good.

dnf777
10-22-2009, 04:22 PM
We don't need that kind of credit boondoggle again.

"he should force banks that have held on to the TARP money to LEND it to people so that they can SPEND it and grow the economy! What a concept!!!!"

He should do this.

He shouldn't do this!

I guess he just can't please some, no matter WHAT he does!?

TXduckdog
10-23-2009, 10:43 PM
"he should force banks that have held on to the TARP money to LEND it to people so that they can SPEND it and grow the economy! What a concept!!!!"

He should do this.

He shouldn't do this!

I guess he just can't please some, no matter WHAT he does!?


In theory this sounds good...but it's bogus economical theory.

dnf777
10-24-2009, 05:47 AM
My first wife sounded good in theory too.......:shock:

Got your point!