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Roger Perry
11-04-2009, 07:44 AM
Democrat wins seat in heavily GOP area of N.Y.

Race reveals split between moderates, conservatives in Republican party


Republicans hadn't lost in the region in more than a century. Owens defeated Hoffman despite a 45,000-voter registration edge for Republicans and big-name endorsements for Hoffman from former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson and others.

Do you suppose we can get Sarah Palin to endorse more republican candidates?

M&K's Retrievers
11-04-2009, 08:00 AM
Like I said to Buzz on another thread perhaps your looking for a pony in a room full of horse s....:razz:

subroc
11-04-2009, 08:01 AM
nice left wing spin.

governors anyone?

ducknwork
11-04-2009, 08:22 AM
Hey Rog! News Flash!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/democrats-republicans-prepare-possible-legal-battle-new-jersey-race/

Republicans Win Governor's Races in New Jersey, Virginia

Republican Chris Christie beats incumbent Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine in New Jersey; Republican Bob McDonnell trounces Democrat Creigh Deeds in Virginia. Democrats prevent a shut-out by winning an upstate New York congressional seat.


Republicans swept to victory in the New Jersey and Virginia governor's races Tuesday, scoring a pair of decisive wins in states that voted for President Obama a year ago.
The Democrats were able to prevent a shut-out, though, pulling out a narrow victory in a closely watched congressional election in upstate New York. Democrat Bill Owens beat Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman in that race.

The Republican victories nevertheless marked a potential turnaround after two consecutive cycles of midterm losses. In New Jersey, Republican Chris Christie beat out Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine, even though Obama campaigned heavily for the incumbent in the closing days of the race and the state has not elected a Republican governor since 1993.

In Virginia, Republican Bob McDonnell beat Democrat Creigh Deeds by a huge margin, heading up a successful GOP ticket. McDonnell's victory ends eight years of Democratic control of the governorship.

The victories could spell trouble for Democrats' legislative agenda in Washington and stand as harbingers of GOP gains in the 2010 midterm elections. Republicans claimed the races Tuesday served as a collective rebuke of Democrats' policies on Capitol Hill and at the White House.

Democrats (Roger Perry), though, dismissed such readings.



I even got my link from Fox News to annoy you a little more...:D;)

JDogger
11-04-2009, 08:31 AM
Both sides declare victory. No surpise there, or in yesterday's elections.

Republicans and democrats elected...hardly a revolution, or even much of a referendum.

Just more of the same old, same old.

JD

subroc
11-04-2009, 08:55 AM
come on JD. Don't let me down. You must have some left wing spin. Explain why the governors races don't matter and the New York -23 reflects the mood of a nation.

Bayou Magic
11-04-2009, 10:00 AM
Hey Roger,

Try this CNN link: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/04/election.races/index.html but be warned, it might not fuel the liberal spin as much as you would like...CNN no less! Say it ain't so!

Enjoy,
fp

WaterDogRem
11-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Come on guys, lets congratulate Roger for posting something that's actually relevant with today's politics! Glad to see the therapy is helping.

Roger Perry
11-04-2009, 11:00 AM
Hey Rog! News Flash!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/democrats-republicans-prepare-possible-legal-battle-new-jersey-race/

Republicans Win Governor's Races in New Jersey, Virginia



How many Governors are there in Congress:?:

Hopefully, GW, Palin and McCain will help the republicans campaign for the 2010 Congressional elections.

dnf777
11-04-2009, 11:02 AM
Just an observation: After 9-11, when Bush's approval ratings were through the roof, the off-cycle elections saw democrats elected to governor's chairs in NJ and VA. What does that, or this election's gov races mean? I have no idea.

Bob Gutermuth
11-04-2009, 11:04 AM
The GOP wins in NJ and Va should be taken as a repudiation of osama's marxist beliefs.

Roger Perry
11-04-2009, 11:45 AM
The GOP wins in NJ and Va should be taken as a repudiation of osama's marxist beliefs.

How so Bob? And just what do you think the NY congressional win means?

Eric Johnson
11-04-2009, 11:49 AM
What would have been the outcome in NY-23 if the GOP candidate had not withdrawn and thrown her support to the Dem? Seems to me

1. She withdraws and says nothing, the Conservative might have done better.

2. She stays in the race and ?

Basically, the Democrat won in an election that does not follow the normal pattern and therefore, you can't predict anything from it. The term of office is 1 year. In a year, let's see how it comes out.

Eric

cotts135
11-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Living in the NY 23 I noticed from the beginning this was a mess. Ny state politics is probably the most dysfunctional political system in the country this was just a reflection of that problem. Most republicans in the area were furious over the fact that just a few county leaders picked the Republican candidate and they especially got po'd when they picked Scozzafavi. The combination of how the candidate was picked and who the candidate was is what led to this revolt by the Republican Party. In my opinion the mainstream media has blown out of proportion what has happened up here and how important it is. One time is not a trend. Let's wait and see what happens in the future.

Steve Amrein
11-04-2009, 12:42 PM
Come on guys, lets congratulate Roger for posting something that's actually relevant with today's politics! Glad to see the therapy is helping.

You know he is dieing to say its Bush's fault:)

Roger Perry
11-04-2009, 01:13 PM
You know he is dieing to say its Bush's fault:)

The only things I have posted lately on Bush or his administration has been news stories that are currently in the news. However, some of the things GW or his cohorts have done in the past keep popping up as current news.

ducknwork
11-04-2009, 03:06 PM
The only things I have posted lately on Bush or his administration has been news stories that are currently in the news. However, some of the things GW or his cohorts have done in the past keep popping up as current news.

It takes 20 attaboys to negate one AW SH*T.

Keep up the good work. You only have 335 attaboys more to go!:D

Gerry Clinchy
11-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Living in the NY 23 I noticed from the beginning this was a mess. Ny state politics is probably the most dysfunctional political system in the country this was just a reflection of that problem. Most republicans in the area were furious over the fact that just a few county leaders picked the Republican candidate and they especially got po'd when they picked Scozzafavi. The combination of how the candidate was picked and who the candidate was is what led to this revolt by the Republican Party. In my opinion the mainstream media has blown out of proportion what has happened up here and how important it is. One time is not a trend. Let's wait and see what happens in the future.


(Just noticed you live in Watertown. I went to college at SLU)

You make a very important point. These candidates were chosen without a primary, and will only serve for one year. The "bosses" did a disservice in not tapping someone a bit further right of center. There was mention on radio today of this candidate also was in favor of the public option on health care. I didn't catch all of the discussion, however.

I would agree that it is relatively unimportant as to what things will look like in 2010. The fact that the conservative candidate showed as well as he did in view of the unusual circumstances, might actually be more significant.

The Ds were already expecting to lose in VA, but can not be at all happy about losing pretty soundly in NJ. The newspapers mentioned that the exit polls showed that the O supporters who voted in Nov 08, did not turn out in numbers yesterday; especially those under 30.

Meanwhile, locally here, the Rs took all 5 of the county council seats in one of our counties: 2 incumbents re-elected; 3 newcomers. This shifts the council to a 7/2 R majority from its previous 5/4 D majority. That's a large swing of the pendulum. The counties are also taking a financial beating with the economy.

Hoosier
11-04-2009, 06:47 PM
Cotts I have a friend from Watertown, Steve Brise, do you know him?

JDogger
11-04-2009, 08:06 PM
come on JD. Don't let me down. You must have some left wing spin. Explain why the governors races don't matter and the New York -23 reflects the mood of a nation.

Sorry Joe, Just don't think there's much to spin here from either side. I'll defer to you 'experts'. Another day in the kabuki that is American politics. The status quo reigns once again. Kinda like a football game, one day you win, one day you lose, the game goes on.
Seems to me, the checks and balances of our political system still work pretty well. In a country as split down the middle as ours, the swing will always be a relevent force. I still have faith in our American system.

JD