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Bubba
11-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Ya heard it here first.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/11/michele.bachmann/index.html

I'd bet the ranch regards (OK_OK- the Doublewide and both Horse trailers)

Bubba

Marvin S
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Ya heard it here first.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/11/michele.bachmann/index.html

I'd bet the ranch regards (OK_OK- the Doublewide and both Horse trailers)

Bubba


What's there to not like - she sounds good on the issues that are hot button. But at times good governance becomes mundane, can she do the nut & bolts. Keep us posted. :BIG:

JDogger
11-11-2009, 11:15 PM
Yes,Yes.Yes!
Who cares about Sarah Now?
MB, now theres a candidate with win written all over her. Go MB Go.

JD

ducknwork
11-12-2009, 07:19 AM
I know nothing about her other than what your article just said, but she at least sounds interesting. We'll see how it plays out...


Oh- and she's better looking than Palin.:p

Bob Gutermuth
11-12-2009, 08:15 AM
She would be a great improvement over the one we have now.

ducknwork
11-12-2009, 10:42 AM
She would be a great improvement over the one we have now.

I would say something like 'So would a fourth grader', but Jdog would get on me about being so negative about liberals...:p

dnf777
11-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Oh God I hope she runs!! How 'bout Bachmann/Palin??

I say that in jest only....I do NOT want to see the republican party totally implode, just get a reality check, which they have, but it apparently has gone unheeded. Maybe one more wing-nut wipe-out and they'll get back to more traditional conservative postures. We're in the throes of an unchecked Democratic party right now, and I don't like it either. We need two viable parties, if not three.

BonMallari
11-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Oh God I hope she runs!! How 'bout Bachmann/Palin??

I say that in jest only....I do NOT want to see the republican party totally implode, just get a reality check, which they have, but it apparently has gone unheeded. Maybe one more wing-nut wipe-out and they'll get back to more traditional conservative postures. We're in the throes of an unchecked Democratic party right now, and I don't like it either. We need two viable parties, if not three.


Bingo.....one of the downfalls of the country is that we talk tough and say that we are fiscal conservatives and social moderates but we vote for moderate to liberal tax and spend politicians who have the morals of an alley cat...or even worse they dont vote at all, but sit back and whine and biaatch about how things are being run....IMHO neither party really represents the majority of America or Americans...they only represent the lobbyists and special interest groups that fund them

A viable third party would break up the logjam but the Dems and Repubs may never let it happen because then they may have to actually do some work..

Hew
11-12-2009, 04:29 PM
Maybe one more wing-nut wipe-out and they'll get back to more traditional conservative postures.
Exactly. Because John McCain was just so way out there and all wing-nutty and stuff. And on the heels of that rabid right wing fanatic George Bush. You're totally right...America like totally needed a rest from all that kind of right wing extremism and kookery.


Seriously. Do you even believe half the stuff you write?

subroc
11-12-2009, 04:41 PM
He believes anyone with an "R" next to their name should be indicted for not being a "D."

dnf777
11-12-2009, 05:20 PM
Exactly. Because John McCain was just so way out there and all wing-nutty and stuff. And on the heels of that rabid right wing fanatic George Bush. You're totally right...America like totally needed a rest from all that kind of right wing extremism and kookery.


Seriously. Do you even believe half the stuff you write?

I will admit that McCain is not as far out there as many, but his VP is way out there, and although maybe she bumped him early on, she didn't help in the end. As far as me believing what I write, the past two elections (06 and 08) proved me right. Results, not rhetoric.

As far as Bush, I won't argue where he lands on the political left-right scale. He kind of was the worst of both ends! Record high deficit spending, and at the same time, tax cuts and two wars. Not that either is bad in itself, but never in the history of civilization have they occured together successfully. But then again, he 'don't know much about history...'

And BTW, why do you insist on bringing up Bush again and again? Isn't that taboo around here? ;-)

code3retrievers
11-12-2009, 05:33 PM
When I think of the Republican party, I think of the Ronald Reagan days. The party has moved away from his platform and looks more and more like the Dems. When I think of the Dems, I think of the JFK days and now they look more like socialists.

Kennedy would not recognize his party and I don't believe Reagan would either.

The funny thing is we Republicans understand that we need to get back to our roots but the people we keep electing are fairly liberal (they think they have to please everyone and so do not have convictions to stand on)

The dems claim we need to move more to the center which the party has done for the last 20 years and it has gotten it no where. The last time the party actually had a set of convictions was under Newt, when they took the house and senate.

It's time to ignore the left and put out a strong conservative candidate that is principled. Whom ever that candidate is, will run Obama and the Dems right over, then we can role back all of this nonsense that left is putting forward.

Principles before party.

Gerry Clinchy
11-13-2009, 09:21 AM
It's time to ignore the left and put out a strong conservative candidate that is principled.

Principled ... character above the "alley cat" morals we see more often.

As dnf777 signature says:


"Always do what's right. You'll gratify some, and astound the rest..." Mark Twain

zeus3925
11-13-2009, 10:03 AM
What's there to not like - she sounds good on the issues that are hot button. But at times good governance becomes mundane, can she do the nut & bolts. Keep us posted. :BIG:

Marvin she IS the nuts and bolts and a crazy person. More likely you will see another Minnesotan instead --Tim Pawlenty

road kill
11-13-2009, 10:17 AM
I will admit that McCain is not as far out there as many, but his VP is way out there, and although maybe she bumped him early on, she didn't help in the end. As far as me believing what I write, the past two elections (06 and 08) proved me right. Results, not rhetoric.

As far as Bush, I won't argue where he lands on the political left-right scale. He kind of was the worst of both ends! Record high deficit spending, and at the same time, tax cuts and two wars. Not that either is bad in itself, but never in the history of civilization have they occured together successfully. But then again, he 'don't know much about history...'

And BTW, why do you insist on bringing up Bush again and again? Isn't that taboo around here? ;-)

She didn't help with you and your fellow lefty's, she is respected and admired by conservatives.
We don't base our opinions or ideals on what you guys HATE!!

I don't know if anyone ever explained that to you.

In the mean time, your party got "HI-JACKED" by left wing extremists paid for by George Soros and driven by "Move-On.org" and Acorn.

I kinda like where I'm at.

I'll take Palin & Bachman over Obama and "Ram" Emanuel any day.
(note I said RAM!!)

South Side Chicago regards,
stan b

dnf777
11-13-2009, 10:29 AM
She didn't help with you and your fellow lefty's, she is respected and admired by conservatives.
We don't base our opinions or ideals on what you guys HATE!!
Then why didn't the bump that put McCain AHEAD in the polls last until November? The "lefties" didn't figure in to that lead at anytime, so apparently some republican or independent voters jumped ship between Palin and November. Just pointing out dates/numbers. How you interpret them is up to you, but she ain't VP today.
I don't know if anyone ever explained that to you.
Don't need to. I used to be a republican, and still hold onto many conservative principles....none of which were upheld over the past 8 years BTW.
In the mean time, your party got "HI-JACKED" by left wing extremists paid for by George Soros and driven by "Move-On.org" and Acorn.
Except for the "your party", I agree. I didn't vote for one democrat in the recent state/local elections.

I kinda like where I'm at.

I'll take Palin & Bachman over Obama and "Ram" Emanuel any day.
(note I said RAM!!)
Both P&B and RE are scary for different reasons. Rham is scary because he is intelligent and charismatic, and can promote and persuade people of his ideals, be they right or wrong. Palin and Bachmann are scary in that how could such atmospheric brain pans rise to such levels in government? Fortunately for the Republican party and America, enough conservatives see nothing but doom and pretty faces in those two, and they likely will not rise above their current elevations. (I know, this post may get revived in the future, and I may have to eat crow, but I'll go out on that limb!)

South Side Chicago regards,
stan b

Flossmore Hills Elementery, class of '73 regards,
Dave

(that's somewhere on the SS I think)

road kill
11-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Flossmore Hills Elementery, class of '73 regards,
Dave

(that's somewhere on the SS I think)

Pawlenty or Romney.

BTW--RE has the charisma of a street "pit bull."

Well documented.

Marvin S
11-13-2009, 11:11 AM
Marvin she IS the nuts and bolts and a crazy person. More likely you will see another Minnesotan instead --Tim Pawlenty

I sincerely hope the R's can do better than Pawlenty or Romney - both governors of very liberal states. Though of those two I would lean more to Romney. Problem being that IA is the 1st caucus & it's a state that likes their handouts. Still waiting for another AUH2O moment, hope to see another in my lifetime.

Funny thing, they all do something somewhat good, at least Obongo is talking a good talk about education, though his action to end vouchers in DC was bad, I'll wait & see what is really done regarding vouchers, school choice & charter schools. Personally, I don't think the feds should be in the Education business, it's a states responsibility, IMO.

You have to weigh what you think they will do that is good vs. what you know will be done that is not in the best interests of our great country, hold your nose & mark the circle, draw the line, make a check mark or pull the lever.

But the way we have drifted toward the handout society is of concern. I wonder how Ike or Harry would view the world today? Both were better presidents than we have been treated to in the last 20+ years.

Steve Amrein
11-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Its funny and sad when ex Dem Joe Libermann is right of a good portion of the R's.

BTW I like Sarah only for the fact that the mention of her name makes the left go crazy. Dont feel she is electable though.......

Hoosier
11-13-2009, 12:02 PM
I sincerely hope the R's can do better than Pawlenty or Romney - both governors of very liberal states. Though of those two I would lean more to Romney. Problem being that IA is the 1st caucus & it's a state that likes their handouts. Still waiting for another AUH2O moment, hope to see another in my lifetime.

Funny thing, they all do something somewhat good, at least Obongo is talking a good talk about education, though his action to end vouchers in DC was bad, I'll wait & see what is really done regarding vouchers, school choice & charter schools. Personally, I don't think the feds should be in the Education business, it's a states responsibility, IMO.

You have to weigh what you think they will do that is good vs. what you know will be done that is not in the best interests of our great country, hold your nose & mark the circle, draw the line, make a check mark or pull the lever.

But the way we have drifted toward the handout society is of concern. I wonder how Ike or Harry would view the world today? Both were better presidents than we have been treated to in the last 20+ years.

I think the more you see of Powlenty, the more conservatives will like him. He is standing up to the liberals in Minnesota, and forcing them to curb spending.

Roger Perry
11-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Michele Bachmann: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.







Nurse Ratched, where are you when we need you?
Ignoring someone's signs of serious mental illness is not being kind it is allowing the person to suffer.
While some blogs refer to Michele Bachmann and her latest rants as wing nut behavior, this woman exhibits serious symptoms of psychosis. A definition of paranoid schizophrenia on the Mayo Clinic's web site defines it as a form of schizophrenia characterized by delusions of persecution, grandiosity or jealousy. Delusions in schizophrenia are often focused on the perceptions that you are being singled out for something, as Ms. Bachmann's belief that God wanted her to run for Minnesota's 6th district.
The delusions obviously are caused by the persons damaged reality testing resulting in gross distortions of daily events and experience. Delusions can result in aggressive behavior or violence if you believe you must act in self defense against those you believe want to harm you.
Apparently, in Ms. Bachmann's dangerous and distorted world view only she and those who think like her are real Americans. She said as much in the last election cycle.
Her latest tirades, however; should not be tolerated because of the potential for equally disturbed people to respond to her call to be armed and dangerous by acting out violently. Further, she stated, "Thomas Jefferson told us having a revolution every now and then is a good thing and we the people are going to have to fight back if we aren't going to lose our country."

If you choose to ignore the obvious psychiatric symptoms then you can't ignore her statements regarding the necessity to become armed and dangerous and the necessity for revolution as examples of seditious and therefore illegal behavior.
Sedition is defined in the dictionary as speech that is deemed by legal authority as tending towards calling for insurrection against established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent or resistance to lawful authority.

Yea, that is who we need to lead our country.:rolleyes:

Bubba
11-13-2009, 03:24 PM
Shoot- I was pretty tickled with her purely because she has a nice rack but then it turns out that she pisses Roger off??? Bonanza!!!!!

She also appeals to my anarchist side:



Controversial Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said this weekend that she wants residents of her state "armed and dangerous" over President Barack Obama's plan to reduce global warming "because we need to fight back."

Asked about the White House-backed cap-and-trade proposal to reduce carbon emissions, Bachmann told WWTC 1280 AM, "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,' and the people -- we the people -- are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country. And I think this has the potential of changing the dynamic of freedom forever in the United States."

Bachmann also told her constituents she was "a foreign correspondent on enemy lines," sending Minnesotans warnings through her blog, Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace. "I try to let everyone back here in Minnesota know exactly the nefarious activities that are taking place in Washington."

The comments have been picked up by local blogs Smart Politics and Dump Bachmann.

Bachmann has encouraged resistance against President Obama before, saying that the Republican party needs "to do everything we can to thwart [the Democrats] at every turn to make sure that they aren't able to, for all time, secure a power base that for all time can never be defeated."


Palin/Bachmann in 2012- Twice as many boobs as ya got in 08

Upper frontal regards

Bubba

code3retrievers
11-13-2009, 04:05 PM
Michele Bachmann: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.







Nurse Ratched, where are you when we need you?
Ignoring someone's signs of serious mental illness is not being kind it is allowing the person to suffer.
While some blogs refer to Michele Bachmann and her latest rants as wing nut behavior, this woman exhibits serious symptoms of psychosis. A definition of paranoid schizophrenia on the Mayo Clinic's web site defines it as a form of schizophrenia characterized by delusions of persecution, grandiosity or jealousy. Delusions in schizophrenia are often focused on the perceptions that you are being singled out for something, as Ms. Bachmann's belief that God wanted her to run for Minnesota's 6th district.
The delusions obviously are caused by the persons damaged reality testing resulting in gross distortions of daily events and experience. Delusions can result in aggressive behavior or violence if you believe you must act in self defense against those you believe want to harm you.
Apparently, in Ms. Bachmann's dangerous and distorted world view only she and those who think like her are real Americans. She said as much in the last election cycle.
Her latest tirades, however; should not be tolerated because of the potential for equally disturbed people to respond to her call to be armed and dangerous by acting out violently. Further, she stated, "Thomas Jefferson told us having a revolution every now and then is a good thing and we the people are going to have to fight back if we aren't going to lose our country."

If you choose to ignore the obvious psychiatric symptoms then you can't ignore her statements regarding the necessity to become armed and dangerous and the necessity for revolution as examples of seditious and therefore illegal behavior.
Sedition is defined in the dictionary as speech that is deemed by legal authority as tending towards calling for insurrection against established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent or resistance to lawful authority.

Yea, that is who we need to lead our country.:rolleyes:

Typical left wing attack on any leading Republican candidate. They did it to Bush (too dumb / cocaine user) , they did it McCain (too old and senile), they did it to Palin (too blue collar) and now Bachmann (crazy).

Why don't guys come up with policy differences instead of making up this @rap.

But then again at least your talking about someone that is current instead of you living in the past.

Roger Perry
11-13-2009, 06:18 PM
Shoot- I was pretty tickled with her purely because she has a nice rack but then it turns out that she pisses Roger off??? Bonanza!!!!!

She also appeals to my anarchist side:



Palin/Bachmann in 2012- Twice as many boobs as ya got in 08

Upper frontal regards

Bubba

Naw, she doesnt piss me off. I hope she gets the nomination.

M&K's Retrievers
11-13-2009, 06:52 PM
Palin/Nugent 2012

dnf777
11-13-2009, 09:28 PM
Palin/Nugent 2012

If you think the Nuge will take second seat to a woman, (or anyone, for that matter) you don't know him very well!!!

Bob Gutermuth
11-14-2009, 06:55 AM
I cannot believe that anyone really cares who the GOP nominates in 2012. Osama will be the democrat nominee and will be about as popular as Typhoid Mary, no matter who the opposition candidate is.

road kill
11-15-2009, 04:34 PM
Typical left wing attack on any leading Republican candidate. They did it to Bush (too dumb / cocaine user) , they did it McCain (too old and senile), they did it to Palin (too blue collar) and now Bachmann (crazy).

Why don't guys come up with policy differences instead of making up this @rap.

But then again at least your talking about someone that is current instead of you living in the past.


They can only talk about what they know about.:D

JDogger
11-15-2009, 05:08 PM
They can only talk about what they know about.:D

You mean like this;

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=523592#post523592=#4

Now that, that is talking policy. :p

JD

road kill
11-15-2009, 05:53 PM
You mean like this;

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?p=523592#post523592=#4

Now that, that is talking policy. :p

JD
Nothing like taking a sentence out of context (something else your side knows about), that was in reference to this:

"If you need to borrow some Kleenex, just let me know.....got a little something brown on your nose there......"

Thanks for proving my point!!
:D

JDogger
11-15-2009, 07:12 PM
Nothing like taking a sentence out of context (something else your side knows about), that was in reference to this:

"If you need to borrow some Kleenex, just let me know.....got a little something brown on your nose there......"

Thanks for proving my point!!
:D

What point was that, Stan?

I think we can all agree that once a thread on PP goes past a page or two it always dissolves in to pure GDG. Sometimes it only takes a couple of posts.

Doubt me?

Re-read the top ten threads on the first page. Yeah, we're a buncha policy talking, intellectuals here. :)

"There's brown on yer nose." "No, it's on yer boots."

Gimme a break.:rolleyes:

JD

road kill
11-16-2009, 07:10 AM
What point was that, Stan?

I think we can all agree that once a thread on PP goes past a page or two it always dissolves in to pure GDG. Sometimes it only takes a couple of posts.

Doubt me?

Re-read the top ten threads on the first page. Yeah, we're a buncha policy talking, intellectuals here. :)

"There's brown on yer nose." "No, it's on yer boots."

Gimme a break.:rolleyes:

JD
That you post nothing of substance.


BTW--To me....you are the model poster.:rolleyes:

JDogger
11-16-2009, 08:03 AM
That you post nothing of substance.


BTW--To me....you are the model poster.:rolleyes:

See what I mean about the disolution process.

JD