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Roger Perry
11-14-2009, 11:01 AM
November 14, 2009 - 7:11am

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Sarah Palin: Avoiding the truth (AP)



By CALVIN WOODWARD



Sarah Palin's new book reprises familiar claims from the 2008 presidential campaign that haven't become any truer over time.
Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition.
Palin goes adrift, at times, on more contemporary issues, too. She criticizes President Barack Obama for pushing through a bailout package that actually was achieved by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush a package she seemed to support at the time.

PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels.
THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20208

subroc
11-14-2009, 11:17 AM
who cares.

Obama spent a million to take a picture of air force one

dnf777
11-14-2009, 11:49 AM
I wouldn't care, except for the fact it seems many on this list are obsessed with gov't spending, but ONLY when it pertains to democrats. I'm sure this will be perfectly acceptable by some twist of rationalization.

K G
11-14-2009, 12:37 PM
She's not governor anymore, right?

Right???????????

:rolleyes:................................

Here's some info that's a little more current and pertinent....http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/19963

The truth shall set you free regards, :smile:

kg

Bob Gutermuth
11-14-2009, 01:08 PM
So what? How much did osama and wife waste on that NY 'date'?

WRL
11-14-2009, 01:20 PM
And how much did the "taxpayers" pay for a trip to promo Chicago as an Olympic venue??

WRL

Roger Perry
11-14-2009, 02:12 PM
And how much did the "taxpayers" pay for a trip to promo Chicago as an Olympic venue??

WRL

All I hear about is Obama spending. Can someone answer the original thread about Palin's extravagant spending and not answer with "Obama did this".

Whenever someone says Obama has done this or that and Bush's name is brought up as a comparison I hear the same old thing "Bush is not President anymore."

K G
11-14-2009, 02:41 PM
You didn't ask a question with the first post Roger...THAT is why you haven't gotten an "answer"....that, and nobody really cares. I don't, for sure...and you've gotten several "answers" to your post, none of which you liked. Now THERE is a big shocker!!! :D

When will you understand that what Bush 43 did or didn't do, what Sarah Palin did or didn't do...what ANYBODY that DIDN'T GET ELECTED in 2008 did or didn't do really doesn't matter now....it DOESN'T. All that matters is what is happening NOW with our current President.

Try being a positive influence every now and then, Roger...talk about all the GOOD that BHO is doing for America. C'mon, man...you can DO it! ;-)

kg

WRL
11-14-2009, 02:56 PM
All I hear about is Obama spending. Can someone answer the original thread about Palin's extravagant spending and not answer with "Obama did this".

Whenever someone says Obama has done this or that and Bush's name is brought up as a comparison I hear the same old thing "Bush is not President anymore."

Obama is PRESIDENT.....that makes it significant to all.

If people have an issue with how Palin spent money then the the ALASKAN PEOPLE deal with it.....

WRL

JDogger
11-14-2009, 03:01 PM
Well, he's not Bush, Mcain, or Palin, so he's got that goin' for him, which is nice.
The new boss is the same boss...what does that say about the old boss?
JD

K G
11-14-2009, 05:21 PM
Well, he's not Bush, Mcain, or Palin, so he's got that goin' for him, which is nice.

That is EXACTLY what got him elected!!! :D


The new boss is the same boss...what does that say about the old boss?
JD

I sure hope he stays with that tack for the next 3 years. He'll ensure himself of only ONE term if he does.

HOPE is not a strategy regards,

kg

Buzz
11-14-2009, 08:04 PM
All I hear about is Obama spending. Can someone answer the original thread about Palin's extravagant spending and not answer with "Obama did this".

Whenever someone says Obama has done this or that and Bush's name is brought up as a comparison I hear the same old thing "Bush is not President anymore."


The point is, Palin says she did one thing and in reality did another.

K G
11-14-2009, 09:10 PM
The point is: who gives a crap?? :o

She's irrelevant regards,

kg

JDogger
11-14-2009, 11:25 PM
The point is: who gives a crap?? :o

She's irrelevant regards,

kg

Tell that to the RNC.

Yer candidate in 2012, regards, Err...maybe MB, Good luck.:p

JD

Franco
11-15-2009, 08:04 AM
Palin needs to do the Republicans a favor and keep her mouth closed. I don't think the GOP leadership can put enough distance between her and them.

Bob Gutermuth
11-15-2009, 08:10 AM
She needs to be out there campaigning in her pit bull mode against the socialists that are currently in charge, the best defense is a good offence. Sarah may well get elected in 2012, she would be an improvement on those running the country now.

ErinsEdge
11-15-2009, 08:12 AM
Palin needs to do the Republicans a favor and keep her mouth closed. I don't think the GOP leadership can put enough distance between her and them.
I agree with you. She's not the one. She will make a lot of money with books and tours because she has a following-no doubt why hubby quit his day job, but her mouth is what did it for me. The former daughters BF is making money on it too. Barracuda gone Jerry Springer.

paul young
11-15-2009, 10:16 AM
there is absolutely no way she can keep her mouth shut. that, to her, is a foreign concept.

if the RNC is foolish enough to put her up as the candidate in 2012 they deserve what they will get.-Paul

Richard Halstead
11-15-2009, 12:59 PM
The point is, Palin says she did one thing and in reality did another.

Isn't that Obama's game plan for being elected. Over promise and under deliver. Why is everyone so afraid of her? Her stand on pro life?

She's not on a ballot and you still complain.

WRL
11-15-2009, 01:06 PM
My guess is she will run.

She run for Congress in 2010. Then probably a Presidential run in 2016. I doubt that she will run for Pres in 2012.

WRL

Juli H
11-15-2009, 01:41 PM
I actually have my doubts that Alaskans would vote her in as a congressman...I would rather see our current governor run for congress....

Juli

subroc
11-15-2009, 01:45 PM
...Why is everyone so afraid of her? Her stand on pro life?



This is clearly it.

You must be an advocate of third term abortions or say nothing about them to prevent being vilified and persecuted by the left.

Leddyman
11-15-2009, 04:21 PM
Everyone is so afraid of her that they manufacture criticism. $700.00 a night in New York? That is cheap. This business about her children is ridiculous. Made up on the fly just like most of the criticism about her. Keep it up though. We'll just see how it all works out.

Gonna get worse before it gets better regards,

Buzz
11-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Isn't that Obama's game plan for being elected. Over promise and under deliver. Why is everyone so afraid of her? Her stand on pro life?

She's not on a ballot and you still complain.

I'm afraid of her because I don't think she's sane. Her pro life stand has nothing to do with how I feel. I actually don't support abortion except to save the health or life of the mother.

biggeorge50
11-15-2009, 07:56 PM
Roger:

Read your own post. Palin said she did not "often" go high end. The facts state that she "usually" opted for less pricey hotels. If she "usually" went for less pricey, how do you figure that she "often" didn't? To me, the facts support her statement.

JDogger
11-15-2009, 08:33 PM
Roger:

Read your own post. Palin said she did not "often" go high end. The facts state that she "usually" opted for less pricey hotels. If she "usually" went for less pricey, how do you figure that she "often" didn't? To me, the facts support her statement.

I hate to concede to kg, but maybe he said it best;


The point is: who gives a crap?? :eek:

She's irrelevant regards,

kg

JD

Roger Perry
11-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Roger:

Read your own post. Palin said she did not "often" go high end. The facts state that she "usually" opted for less pricey hotels. If she "usually" went for less pricey, how do you figure that she "often" didn't? To me, the facts support her statement.

So, what you are saying, is that when the money comes out of her pocket she went for the less pricey and when the public picked up the tab went for the Ritz?

road kill
11-16-2009, 09:02 AM
I'm afraid of her because I don't think she's sane. Her pro life stand has nothing to do with how I feel. I actually don't support abortion except to save the health or life of the mother.


Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi....models of sanity!!??!!??:D

K G
11-16-2009, 09:26 AM
She's on the cover of Newsweek this week with the same picture that was on the cover of Runner's World a few months ago. Big deal. She looks great and she's enjoying an extension of her 15 minutes of fame. Good for her.

I don't believe ANY republican candidate could have won against BHO in the last election due to the actions of the previous administration combined with all of the "campaign promises" made by the BHO sycophants. The nomination of Sarah Palin as VP worked for the McCain campaign for about two weeks. The republican party did a HORRIBLE job of vetting her which contributed to the loss as well.

Fortunately for the republican party and the country, BHO continues to promise people money that we don't have, unless we borrow it from China or Japan. Not enough of the voters that helped him get elected (democrats like to call them the "disenfranchised") are getting "theirs" as promised; they aren't seeing the "change" and "hope" that was his mantra. With double-digit unemployment increasing, stimulus dollars not being allocated and spent, and banks and lending institutions keeping the money the government gave them until the last possible moment of their payback deadline and therefore not making money easier to come by (think 180 degree difference from pre-recession lending), the economy is still stale and all but flat-lined in the eyes of the everyday American...the ones who were filled with "hope" for "change" that has not remotely materialized.

The "business as usual" attitude of the BHO administration will give the American people the opportunity to retake control of their destiny in less than a year. God help us if we don't exercise that opportunity when it is availed to us.

kg

ducknwork
11-16-2009, 09:37 AM
I thought we debunked capitolhillblue.com last week? Why are we still believing any drivel from an admittedly (by it's OWN admission) inaccurate and untruthful site?

K G
11-16-2009, 10:36 AM
I liked their piece that I linked in post #4.... :wink:

Tit for tat regards,

kg

road kill
11-16-2009, 10:38 AM
I thought we debunked capitolhillblue.com last week? Why are we still believing any drivel from an admittedly (by it's OWN admission) inaccurate and untruthful site?
Because it satisfies certain peoples fervent desire to attack & insult someone personally??

I'm just guessing.:confused:

Roger Perry
11-16-2009, 12:14 PM
I thought we debunked capitolhillblue.com last week? Why are we still believing any drivel from an admittedly (by it's OWN admission) inaccurate and untruthful site?

No, it is you not we that debunked capital hill blue. It is not any more inaccurate or untruthful than FOX entertainment.

Capital Hill Blue is the oldest Political news site on the internet.

ducknwork
11-17-2009, 12:09 PM
The American Daily News is the oldest supermarket tabloid.

ducknwork
11-17-2009, 12:11 PM
I liked their piece that I linked in post #4.... :wink:

Tit for tat regards,

kg

Well, I guess if Roger wants us to accept chb.com as credible, then your link must be truth, right?;-)

K G
11-17-2009, 12:13 PM
Hey....all I'm saying is that one can pick and choose what they want to believe. By no means does that make ANY site more believable....;-)

kg

Hew
11-17-2009, 06:03 PM
Palin needs to do the Republicans a favor and keep her mouth closed. I don't think the GOP leadership can put enough distance between her and them.
I'm curious as to which of her policy positions you don't agree with and which you believe do a disservice to the GOP?

As for the GOP leadership (whoever that is)...I'm curious as to why you put so much faith in them. Weren't they the same folks who gave us John McCain?

cotts135
11-18-2009, 06:12 AM
As far as I can see the media is obsessed with her and although she is always complaining how unfair they are to her secretly she loves all this attention. It sure is going to sell her alot of books.

Sarah Palin to me is just an intellectual lightweight who is without much substance other than being very attractive.

ducknwork
11-18-2009, 08:15 AM
I'm curious as to which of her policy positions you don't agree with and which you believe do a disservice to the GOP?



I like Sarah Palin. I like what she stands for. However, I do not want to see her run for president in 2012. My reason has nothing to do with policies or political stances. I think the issue that many people who tend to vote republican is electability. While we would like to see her in a more influential political position, it is not very realistic to expect such. Too many people don't do their own research and simply believe and vote by what they hear on tv. We all know how friendly the MSM is to Palin...:rolleyes:

Sadly, I believe Palin running in 2012 would only be good for Obama.

Bob Gutermuth
11-18-2009, 09:26 AM
I think Gov Palin will beat osama like a drum. She has my support for POTUS in 2012.

BTW why does AP find it necessary to put 12 fact checkers on Gov Palin's book but put none on Teddy Kennedy's ?

Buzz
11-18-2009, 09:51 AM
I think Gov Palin will beat osama like a drum. She has my support for POTUS in 2012.

BTW why does AP find it necessary to put 12 fact checkers on Gov Palin's book but put none on Teddy Kennedy's ?


I've read about 1/3 of Kennedy's book so far, and have yet to see anything political or any attack on anyone. So far it's been about his family and childhood.

ducknwork
11-18-2009, 11:45 AM
Is there a chapter on Chappaquiddick? We should put some fact checkers on that one...

Buzz
11-18-2009, 12:07 PM
Is there a chapter on Chappaquiddick? We should put some fact checkers on that one...

Knock yourself out.

ducknwork
11-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Knock yourself out.

It would have been more appropriate if you had told me to go jump off a bridge.


Just sayin...