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Steve Amrein
12-09-2009, 12:42 PM
Obamas slide in polls continue to slide. In this point in his term as POTUS he is below Nixon,Reagan, Clinton and both Bush 1and Bush 2.

Link http://www.rttnews.com/Content/PoliticalNews.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1152399

Sorry It was the 1st of a hundred or so when googled so I have no Idea if is a left right or a real news org.

Roger Perry
12-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Obamas slide in polls continue to slide. In this point in his term as POTUS he is below Nixon,Reagan, Clinton and both Bush 1and Bush 2.

Link http://www.rttnews.com/Content/PoliticalNews.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1152399

Sorry It was the 1st of a hundred or so when googled so I have no Idea if is a left right or a real news org.

Let us know when it gets down to 23% like W

road kill
12-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Let us know when it gets down to 23% like W
You can count on it!!

Change is on the way!!!:D

Hoosier
12-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Let us know when it gets down to 23% like W

I wonder what the Kenyans' poll numbers will be 50 years from now, when our great grandchildren are still paying the interest on his debt. I suspect they'll be hovering around 0% approval.

Roger Perry
12-09-2009, 05:49 PM
You can count on it!!

Change is on the way!!!:D

Didn't you say the same thing before the last election?

road kill
12-09-2009, 06:07 PM
Didn't you say the same thing before the last election?
No, your said did, but it didn't change, it was the same only MORE!!

But then, you already knew that!!;-)

Nor_Cal_Angler
12-09-2009, 06:21 PM
Let us know when it gets down to 23% like W

Comparisions of the 1st year mark Please...

not the last year...23% :rolleyes::rolleyes: SHEEEEESH!!!

NCA

dnf777
12-09-2009, 06:43 PM
I wonder what the Kenyans' poll numbers will be 50 years from now, when our great grandchildren are still paying the interest on his debt. I suspect they'll be hovering around 0% approval.

We'll still be paying Reagan's debt at that point. By the time we get around to paying Bush's debt, we'll know first hand if global warming is true or not! And if Australia will tectonically collide with California.

Cody Covey
12-10-2009, 10:02 AM
Bush's approval in december of 2001 was 79% and Obama's is at 46% in case you want to look at actual facts Roger....

Bob Gutermuth
12-10-2009, 10:07 AM
Roger's mind is made up, don't confuse him with facts.

ducknwork
12-10-2009, 10:41 AM
Facts? Roger don't need no stinkin' facts!

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 10:50 AM
Bush's approval in december of 2001 was 79% and Obama's is at 46% in case you want to look at actual facts Roger....

In December 2001, the economy was not in the toilet either.

So far, we have not had an incident like flying planes into the world trade center. Nor had we have to start a war. Unlike Bush, Obama has kept our country safe from terrorists attacks.

WaterDogRem
12-10-2009, 10:55 AM
In December 2001, the economy was not in the toilet either.

So far, we have not had an incident like flying planes into the world trade center. Nor had we have to start a war. Unlike Bush, Obama has kept our country safe from terrorists attacks.

Except for the Muslim terrorist attack at Fort Hood.

But I'm sure the families of the decease agree with you Rog.

ducknwork
12-10-2009, 10:56 AM
Unlike Bush, Obama has kept our country safe from terrorists attacks.


What do you call the Ft. Hood incident?

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 11:00 AM
What do you call the Ft. Hood incident?

A soldier gone crazy.

Nor_Cal_Angler
12-10-2009, 11:11 AM
A soldier gone crazy.

Good chance he went crazy from being tied down and made to listion to President Bush's State of the Union address's.......Huhhhh Roger!:-P:-P;)

NCA

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Good chance he went crazy from being tied down and made to listion to President Bush's State of the Union address's.......Huhhhh Roger!:-P:-P;)

NCA

There are mass shootings all over the country yet you pick out only one incident. Why? Because he was of Muslim faith.

Raw Data: Past Deadly U.S. Mass Shootings

— March 29, 2009: Robert Stewart, 45, shot and killed eight people at Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, N.C. before a police officer shot him and ended the rampage.
— March 29, 2009: Devan Kalathat, 42, shot and killed his two children and three other relatives, then killed himself in an upscale neighborhood of Santa Clara, Calif. Kalathat's wife was critically injured.
— March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people — including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy — across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.
— Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
— Dec. 5, 2007: Robert A. Hawkins, 19, opened fire with a rifle at a Von Maur store in an Omaha, Neb., mall, killing eight people before taking his own life. Five more people were wounded, two critically.

The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting) that took place April 16, 2007 on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Polytechnic_Institute_and_State_Universit y) (Virginia Tech) in Blacksburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg,_Virginia), Virginia, United States. In two separate attacks, approximately two hours apart, the perpetrator, Seung-Hui Cho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho), killed 32 people and wounded many others [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-August_panel_report-0) before committing suicide. The massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killing) is the deadliest peacetime shooting incident by a single gunman in United States history, on or off a school campus.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-1)


You get the Idea? What about the 4 policemen that were shot just a short while ago?

gman0046
12-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Obongo has the lowest approval rating in history for the amount of time he's been in office. That ought to tell us something. How are the changes he's made doing for you Roger?

Captain Mike D
12-10-2009, 11:45 AM
Why? Because he was of Muslim faith.


Um,,, Roger,

Did you miss the part where witnesses spoke about him shouting "Allah Akbar" as he was doing the shooting? Or the part about his e-mail conversations with a known radical cleric in Yemen who suggested that he martyr himself? Or the part about him e-mailing known Alqueda members?

Just wondering out loud.;-)

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 11:48 AM
Um,,, Roger,

Did you miss the part where witnesses spoke about him shouting "Allah Akbar" as he was doing the shooting? Or the part about his e-mail conversations with a known radical cleric in Yemen who suggested that he martyr himself? Or the part about him e-mailing known Alqueda members?

Just wondering out loud.;-)

What do you say to the families of over 4,000 of our armed forces and counting that have died in Iraq, a needless war fueled by GW Bush's ego?

duckheads
12-10-2009, 11:49 AM
Unbelievable how Roger can try to compare apples and oranges. the guy is a terrorist, no ifs, ands, or butts! I can't wait to get the coffee mug I just ordered, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" How true, how true!!!!!! Good thing our country didn't have Rogers attitude during WWII. Think how many countries would be speaking german.

Nor_Cal_Angler
12-10-2009, 11:54 AM
There are mass shootings all over the country yet you pick out only one incident. Why? Because he was of Muslim faith.

Raw Data: Past Deadly U.S. Mass Shootings

— March 29, 2009: Robert Stewart, 45, shot and killed eight people at Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, N.C. before a police officer shot him and ended the rampage.
— March 29, 2009: Devan Kalathat, 42, shot and killed his two children and three other relatives, then killed himself in an upscale neighborhood of Santa Clara, Calif. Kalathat's wife was critically injured.
— March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people — including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy — across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.
— Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
— Dec. 5, 2007: Robert A. Hawkins, 19, opened fire with a rifle at a Von Maur store in an Omaha, Neb., mall, killing eight people before taking his own life. Five more people were wounded, two critically.

The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting) that took place April 16, 2007 on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Polytechnic_Institute_and_State_Universit y) (Virginia Tech) in Blacksburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg,_Virginia), Virginia, United States. In two separate attacks, approximately two hours apart, the perpetrator, Seung-Hui Cho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho), killed 32 people and wounded many others [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-August_panel_report-0) before committing suicide. The massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killing) is the deadliest peacetime shooting incident by a single gunman in United States history, on or off a school campus.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-1)


You get the Idea? What about the 4 policemen that were shot just a short while ago?

No, the person who picked it out, did so because the word "Terrorism or Terrorist" was in a post, which is why Bush got America to rally behind him and that President Obama has not had an attack like that on his watch and has to deal with the mess, and that is why his numbers are low.

To my knowledge, Robert Stewart..did not have known documented contact with radical mulsims in other countries via email.

To my knowledge, Devan Kalathat...did not have known interactions with the mosque that the 9/11 hijackers went to which was in another state (Va).

To my knowledge Michael Mclendon...did not or was not heard to have said "Allah Akbar" while killing people.

To my knowledge Steven Kazmierczak...did not take specific aim at our Armed Forces, which so happen to be in a war against the people and reglious fanatics with which he identifies with.

To my knowledge Robert Hawkins...did not give presentations to his CO's or supervisors (with respect to which ever profession he held) that spoke of the mulsim's of the world uniting and turning the tide against the countries of the west.

and finally TO MY KNOWLEDGE the VA TECH A$$HOLE....was simply that.

So you tell me Rog...why did the person that put up the Fort Hood incident as a terrorist attack do so....BECAUSE IT FREAKING WAS.....own up to it!!!!! and President Obama was asleep at the switch and then brushes it off as just another unfournate accident. Kinda like you just did.

NCA

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 12:04 PM
No, the person who picked it out, did so because the word "Terrorism or Terrorist" was in a post, which is why Bush got America to rally behind him and that President Obama has not had an attack like that on his watch and has to deal with the mess, and that is why his numbers are low.

To my knowledge, Robert Stewart..did not have known documented contact with radical mulsims in other countries via email.

To my knowledge, Devan Kalathat...did not have known interactions with the mosque that the 9/11 hijackers went to which was in another state (Va).

To my knowledge Michael Mclendon...did not or was not heard to have said "Allah Akbar" while killing people.

To my knowledge Steven Kazmierczak...did not take specific aim at our Armed Forces, which so happen to be in a war against the people and reglious fanatics with which he identifies with.

To my knowledge Robert Hawkins...did not give presentations to his CO's or supervisors (with respect to which ever profession he held) that spoke of the mulsim's of the world uniting and turning the tide against the countries of the west.

and finally TO MY KNOWLEDGE the VA TECH A$$HOLE....was simply that.

So you tell me Rog...why did the person that put up the Fort Hood incident as a terrorist attack do so....BECAUSE IT FREAKING WAS.....own up to it!!!!! and President Obama was asleep at the switch and then brushes it off as just another unfournate accident. Kinda like you just did.

NCA

So you are saying this shooter was a one person terrorist organization? And that it was Obama's fault because one person out of 300,000,000 people in america went on a shooting rampage? That is absolutely ridiculous.

Cody Covey
12-10-2009, 12:08 PM
so you would say the same about 19 out of 300,000,000 right? i mean thats such a small number. He wasn't a one man terrorist organization he was muslim which in my book is a terrorist organization.

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 12:23 PM
so you would say the same about 19 out of 300,000,000 right? i mean thats such a small number. He wasn't a one man terrorist organization he was muslim which in my book is a terrorist organization.

And we should shoot all the muslims in the country and blow up their mosques, right?

WaterDogRem
12-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Rog,
Do you think it’s weird that no one on here is trying to defend this scumbag like you?

Do you not see any connection between his sympathy, communications, and direct influence from the exact kinds of people we are trying to suppress and eliminate in our War on Terror?

If he was "just" a solider gone crazy, then what drove him insane to shoot his fellow countrymen & women?

Steve Amrein
12-10-2009, 01:42 PM
If he was "just" a solider gone crazy, then what drove him insane to shoot his fellow countrymen & women?

It was his hatered of Bush that made him snap :rolleyes:

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 02:59 PM
Rog,
Do you think it’s weird that no one on here is trying to defend this scumbag like you?

Do you not see any connection between his sympathy, communications, and direct influence from the exact kinds of people we are trying to suppress and eliminate in our War on Terror?

If he was "just" a solider gone crazy, then what drove him insane to shoot his fellow countrymen & women?

I am not defending this loon. I just disagree that this was Obama's fault. Didn't this loon have fellow officers working around and with him? What about all the enlisted men and women that he was around and didn't he have a commanding officer. Surely someone should have seen this guy was off kilter before the shooting started or he goes down in history as another mass murderer. Obama was thousands of miles away and way up the chain of command, there was no way he would have known about the attack before it happened. If you think that the President can keep track of each and every person under his command and every man, woman and child in the United States, then you must truly believe he is the messiah. I don't.

road kill
12-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Rog,
Do you think it’s weird that no one on here is trying to defend this scumbag like you?

Do you not see any connection between his sympathy, communications, and direct influence from the exact kinds of people we are trying to suppress and eliminate in our War on Terror?

If he was "just" a solider gone crazy, then what drove him insane to shoot his fellow countrymen & women?

Because they are potential votes for the Lefty's!

Big Tent regards.........:D

Bayou Magic
12-10-2009, 03:33 PM
What do you call the Ft. Hood incident?


A soldier gone crazy.


There are mass shootings all over the country yet you pick out only one incident. Why? Because he was of Muslim faith.

Raw Data: Past Deadly U.S. Mass Shootings

— March 29, 2009: Robert Stewart, 45, shot and killed eight people at Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, N.C. before a police officer shot him and ended the rampage.
— March 29, 2009: Devan Kalathat, 42, shot and killed his two children and three other relatives, then killed himself in an upscale neighborhood of Santa Clara, Calif. Kalathat's wife was critically injured.
— March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people — including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy — across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.
— Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
— Dec. 5, 2007: Robert A. Hawkins, 19, opened fire with a rifle at a Von Maur store in an Omaha, Neb., mall, killing eight people before taking his own life. Five more people were wounded, two critically.

The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting) that took place April 16, 2007 on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Polytechnic_Institute_and_State_Universit y) (Virginia Tech) in Blacksburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg,_Virginia), Virginia, United States. In two separate attacks, approximately two hours apart, the perpetrator, Seung-Hui Cho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho), killed 32 people and wounded many others [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-August_panel_report-0) before committing suicide. The massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killing) is the deadliest peacetime shooting incident by a single gunman in United States history, on or off a school campus.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre#cite_note-1)


You get the Idea? What about the 4 policemen that were shot just a short while ago?


What do you say to the families of over 4,000 of our armed forces and counting that have died in Iraq, a needless war fueled by GW Bush's ego?

I don't have the words to respond to this.

With views like these I fully understand the open talk of division in the US. I've not doubted that it is coming, but until recently I never dreamed of seeing it in my lifetime. Now I'm not so sure.

Many simply say that it can't happen. I strongly disagree; in fact, I firmly believe that it is a matter of time until the USA goes through some major changes as a nation. History tells us that nations and national boundaries change just like most things in life. Our nation is no different in that regard.

An interesting fact helps illustrate this point: no president was born and died under the same number of stars on the American flag. The same will be said of the four living past presidents when they pass. Only the current president can break that streak. Will he? I doubt it.

fp

Cody Covey
12-10-2009, 03:34 PM
I am not defending this loon. I just disagree that this was Obama's fault. Didn't this loon have fellow officers working around and with him? What about all the enlisted men and women that he was around and didn't he have a commanding officer. Surely someone should have seen this guy was off kilter before the shooting started or he goes down in history as another mass murderer. Obama was thousands of miles away and way up the chain of command, there was no way he would have known about the attack before it happened. If you think that the President can keep track of each and every person under his command and every man, woman and child in the United States, then you must truly believe he is the messiah. I don't.

And yet you blame Bush for 9/11...its to easy with you Roger

Pals
12-10-2009, 03:42 PM
With views like these I fully understand the open talk of division in the US. I've not doubted that it is coming, but until recently I never dreamed of seeing it in my lifetime. Now I'm not so sure.

Many simply say that it can't happen. I strongly disagree; in fact, I firmly believe that it is a matter of time until the USA goes through some major changes as a nation. History tells us that nations and national boundaries change just like most things in life. Our nation is no different in that regard.

An interesting fact helps illustrate this point: no president was born and died under the same number of stars on the American flag. The same will be said of the four living past presidents when they pass. Only the current president can break that streak. Will he? I doubt it.

fp


So what is the cost of living in Texas these days? Looks like I may be moving.............

Captain Mike D
12-10-2009, 03:45 PM
What do you say to the families of over 4,000 of our armed forces and counting that have died in Iraq

I say thank you for the sacrifice you have laid at the alter of Freedom. I know my thanks can never be enough to rid you of the pain at the loss of your loved one but please know that I will fight to preserve the freedoms that your love one believed in.

Notice Roger, that I removed the needless part of your post. Since you have a habit of forgetting facts I will try to refresh your memory-
1. Sadam was not allowing the UN arm inspectors in
2. He was repeatedly violating the No-Fly zones put into place to deter the genocide of his own citizens and those of nearby countries
3. He was paying ,and advertized the fact that he would pay, 20k to any family of a suicide bomber. That in itself made him a supporter of terrorism and as such a terrrorist himself.
4. Alqueda was allowed to operate in his country just as in A-stan otherwise why would they have been coming out of the woodwork like roaches so quickly after we won the war but had not yet won the peace.

He was hanged by the citizens of his own country for the genocide of his own people. Those people now have a chance at freedom

I hope your dude has the balls to stand for freedom, because he too faces a problem which is known to the world as Iran. It will be interesting to see if you deem that conflict to be needless.

Buzz
12-10-2009, 03:52 PM
I don't have the words to respond to this.

With views like these I fully understand the open talk of division in the US. I've not doubted that it is coming, but until recently I never dreamed of seeing it in my lifetime. Now I'm not so sure.

Many simply say that it can't happen. I strongly disagree; in fact, I firmly believe that it is a matter of time until the USA goes through some major changes as a nation. History tells us that nations and national boundaries change just like most things in life. Our nation is no different in that regard.

An interesting fact helps illustrate this point: no president was born and died under the same number of stars on the American flag. The same will be said of the four living past presidents when they pass. Only the current president can break that streak. Will he? I doubt it.

fp


That's one heck of a leap, from Roger's posts to succession?

Nice...

Roger Perry
12-10-2009, 04:01 PM
And yet you blame Bush for 9/11...its to easy with you Roger

Bush was told by the CIA months before 9/11 that terrorists were taking flight training school and the CIA feared planes would be involved in a terrorist attack. Big difference there because Bush did N O T H I N G about the reports.

Cody Covey
12-10-2009, 05:42 PM
You're right Roger Bush should've blown up their mosques

WaterDogRem
12-10-2009, 09:15 PM
I am not defending this loon. I just disagree that this was Obama's fault. Didn't this loon have fellow officers working around and with him? What about all the enlisted men and women that he was around and didn't he have a commanding officer. Surely someone should have seen this guy was off kilter before the shooting started or he goes down in history as another mass murderer. Obama was thousands of miles away and way up the chain of command, there was no way he would have known about the attack before it happened. If you think that the President can keep track of each and every person under his command and every man, woman and child in the United States, then you must truly believe he is the messiah. I don't.

First, I don't think it was Obama's fault for this terrorist attack, just like it wasn't bush's fault for 9/11. Second, there were signs, but due to the liberal PC infestation in this country no one confronted it and even promoted him. Third, so since Obama (or any president) wasn't aware of this person or group, then it's not a terrorist attack? No president will know of everyone's intentions, but there can still be a terrorist attack under their term. If he's not your messiah, then why do you continue to defend him like he is your messiah?