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BrianW
12-16-2009, 01:51 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34446325/ns/politics-health_care_reform/
"As Democrats struggle to pass a a health care overhaul bill by Christmas, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday found support for the reform plan has sunk to its lowest level since April 2009. Just 32 percent of respondents said that President Barack Obama's health care overhaul proposal is a good idea, with 47 percent responding that the plan is a bad idea."

So now that even MSNBC admits that a majority of the American people think that this plan is crap, what do you think it's going to take for our hired employees in DC to listen to what the bosses are saying? :rolleyes:

On top of that, Andrea Mitchell complains that the Sanders amendment establishing a single payer plan doesn't have a chance if the bill actually had to be read ?!? What a concept, read the bills before you vote on them?

When even Howard Dean says it's a bad bill, you know it's a piece.

Buzz
12-16-2009, 03:52 PM
Liberals are ready to kill the bill. Obama's polling is about to hit the toilet big time. Obama's base will not accept passage of this piece of crap as a good thing.


No allowing 55-64 year old people to buy into medicare.
Mandate to buy insurance from private insurance companies who have anti-trust exemption, without offering a public option.
No reimportation of prescription medications.
No lifetime limits, but yearly limits on coverage instead.
The rules on rescission no different than what insurance companies have operated on already.


Democrats are useless.

road kill
12-16-2009, 04:09 PM
Liberals are ready to kill the bill. Obama's polling is about to hit the toilet big time. Obama's base will not accept passage of this piece of crap as a good thing.


No allowing 55-64 year old people to buy into medicare.
Mandate to buy insurance from private insurance companies who have anti-trust exemption, without offering a public option.
No reimportation of prescription medications.
No lifetime limits, but yearly limits on coverage instead.
The rules on rescission no different than what insurance companies have operated on already.


Democrats are useless.

Buzz.....thay all are!!

Remeber Pogo??

"We have met the enemy and he is us!!"

I am against the extreme left, the extreme right AND the extreme middle!!:shock:

code3retrievers
12-16-2009, 06:06 PM
Democrats are useless.


Finally, something we can agree on.

Sabireley
12-17-2009, 11:51 AM
Senator Harkin to George Stephanopoulos in response to Dean's call to kill the bill.

HARKIN: I plead with all of my progressive friends, now is the time to get over this hurdle. If this bill were so bad, why are 40 Republicans on the hill going after it day after day after day and trying to kill it?


If the Repbulicans hate it, it must be good...

M&K's Retrievers
12-17-2009, 01:24 PM
We can only hope that what goes around comes around...

Richard Halstead
12-17-2009, 08:48 PM
I think what was said in 1776 at the Boston Tea Party is useful now for these are truly "The times that try Men Soul".

Gerry Clinchy
12-18-2009, 04:43 AM
LOL! AN NBC poll reported that the Tea Bag activists had a higher approval rating than EITHER THE Ds or the Rs. The Ds were rated slightly better in the poll than the Rs. Seems like the voters are finally convinced there is almost no difference from the two groups of politicians. One comment in the article suggested that maybe the time was ripe for the candidates who aligned themselves with the goals of the "Tea Baggers".

Gerry Clinchy
12-18-2009, 06:22 AM
The local early morning news had a piece on the Mexican health care system ... $600/year for comprehensive care that includes prescriptions with a doctor's visit. They featured a retired couple from the U.S. praising the system. It is available to Mexican citizens and also to legal non-citizens.

There was a "footnote" at the end ... that the system was already strained financially. (Ultimately, still no "free lunch.") There is some fear that an influx of U.S. retirees would bankrupt the system.

They also mentioned a shortage of medical personnel.

It also mentioned that family members are expected to assist with feeding and bathing a patient, and bringing their own blankets.

Another interesting highlight. A U.S. retiree who had been taking 20 meds! was cut back to 5. Seems like that's a flaw in our own system that might rather easily be addressed by our medical professionals even without govt intervention.

Buzz
12-18-2009, 08:36 AM
LOL! AN NBC poll reported that the Tea Bag activists had a higher approval rating than EITHER THE Ds or the Rs. The Ds were rated slightly better in the poll than the Rs. Seems like the voters are finally convinced there is almost no difference from the two groups of politicians. One comment in the article suggested that maybe the time was ripe for the candidates who aligned themselves with the goals of the "Tea Baggers".


People haven't been screwed over by anyone flying the tea bagger flag.......yet.