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Eric Johnson
01-21-2010, 08:58 AM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,673192,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/yk8egw3

US President Barack Obama suffered a painful defeat in Massachusetts on Tuesday. With mid-term elections looming, it means that Obama will have to fundamentally re-think his political course. German commentators say it is the end of hope.

US President Barack Obama has had a number of difficult weeks during his first year in the White House. Right after he took office, he had to wade through a week full of partisan bickering over his economic stimulus package combined with a tax scandal surrounding Tom Daschle, the man Obama had hoped would lead his health care reform team.

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precisionlabradors
01-21-2010, 09:07 AM
just a quick reminder---this in no way disputes the veracity of your claim---

when bho was elected and europe was grateful and going crazy with hope, a lot of people on this board mocked the commentary saying that europe doesn't matter, that we should disregard it and only pay attention to what our own american commentators have to say. commentators....hahahahah. they'll say anything. i imagine its the same in europe.
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Julie R.
01-21-2010, 09:34 AM
when bho was elected and europe was grateful and going crazy with hope, a lot of people on this board mocked the commentary saying that europe doesn't matter, that we should disregard it and only pay attention to what our own american commentators have to say. commentators....hahahahah. they'll say anything. i imagine its the same in europe.


Really? Can you provide links to those posts where people on this board said we should only pay attention to what our own commentators had to say about BHO's election?

I remember saying something to the effect that nations that didn't like the U.S. were rattling their sabers with glee over the prospect of an apologetic, spineless U.S. president that wanted everybody to love him.

And that was before the apology tour. :cool::bday:

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/06/04/PH2009060404810.jpg

badbullgator
01-21-2010, 09:46 AM
I am forced to listen to NPR a couple of times a month by my lib co worker. All the BBC stuff yesterday was about how obongo was in trouble.....

paul young
01-21-2010, 09:51 AM
no, WE'RE the ones in trouble.....but no one seems to get that. too busy with the tit for tat thing, i guess.

the American people and the Legislative branch of our government have not backed a sitting president in 17 years. and we wonder why we have the problems we are confronted with now.

we are the United States in name only.-Paul

ducknwork
01-21-2010, 11:03 AM
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/06/04/PH2009060404810.jpg

That's some serious bling!

I watched a couple minutes of an Obama interview on ABC news last night and he sounded pretty dejected about the results. From what I gathered, it almost seemed as though he feels a little like a lame duck. A lame duck after only one year? WOW. He doesn't have the supermajority anymore (not that he accomplished much with it) and every dem in congress is scared for their job and before long will begin to distance themselves from him. After all, he hasn't exactly been the luckiest talisman for those he campaigned for...

precisionlabradors
01-21-2010, 11:28 AM
Really? Can you provide links to those posts where people on this board said we should only pay attention to what our own commentators had to say about BHO's election?

I remember saying something to the effect that nations that didn't like the U.S. were rattling their sabers with glee over the prospect of an apologetic, spineless U.S. president that wanted everybody to love him.

And that was before the apology tour. :cool::bday:

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/06/04/PH2009060404810.jpg


you can use the search function as easily as i. they were and are there.
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precisionlabradors
01-21-2010, 11:30 AM
no, WE'RE the ones in trouble.....but no one seems to get that. too busy with the tit for tat thing, i guess.

the American people and the Legislative branch of our government have not backed a sitting president in 17 years. and we wonder why we have the problems we are confronted with now.

we are the United States in name only.-Paul

W.O.R.D. mhmm
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Franco
01-21-2010, 02:33 PM
you can use the search function as easily as i. they were and are there.



I was curious so, I did a search. Sorry, couldn't find any.;-)

Don't y'all just love the way Obama supporters like to divert attention away from the story/issue.

road kill
01-21-2010, 02:42 PM
In todays world FADS come and go quickly.....especially those without substance!!!:D





rk

K G
01-21-2010, 03:12 PM
no, WE'RE the ones in trouble.....but no one seems to get that. too busy with the tit for tat thing, i guess.

the American people and the Legislative branch of our government have not backed a sitting president in 17 years. and we wonder why we have the problems we are confronted with now.

we are the United States in name only.-Paul

There's a way to fix that: TERM LIMITS!!!

So sayeth the flock regards, :cool:

k g

menmon
01-21-2010, 03:36 PM
I can tune in to Glen Beck for this type of rhetoric, and it would not matter if the president was Jesus Christ and a democrat, Beck would spin every miracle he performed as bad, so that you toon in for another dose of his crap.

It is funny how people forget. Obama didn't cause these problems but you blame him. And you expect him to fix them over-night. So vote against him next time and get another tax-cutting war mongrel that will short us into Bolivia while his buddys get rich.

dback
01-21-2010, 03:47 PM
I can tune in to Glen Beck for this type of rhetoric, and it would not matter if the president was Jesus Christ and a democrat, Beck would spin every miracle he performed as bad, so that you toon in for another dose of his crap.

It is funny how people forget. Obama didn't cause these problems but you blame him. And you expect him to fix them over-night. So vote against him next time and get another tax-cutting war mongrel that will short us into Bolivia while his buddys get rich.

Just wondering JD...would this be classified as 'whiny'?

K G
01-21-2010, 04:20 PM
I can tune in to Glen Beck for this type of rhetoric, and it would not matter if the president was Jesus Christ and a democrat, Beck would spin every miracle he performed as bad, so that you toon in for another dose of his crap.

Then, by all means, please do...I never listen to him or Rush or Sean Hannity either...but you can have MY share.


It is funny how people forget. Obama didn't cause these problems but you blame him. And you expect him to fix them over-night. So vote against him next time and get another tax-cutting war mongrel that will short us into Bolivia while his buddys get rich.

You DO realize that the POTUS has VERY little legislative power, don't you, sambo? In truth, he has NONE other than being the leader of his party in this country. It is CONGRESS that makes laws and institutes "change." BHO did help sell the concept of change, but the message MA sent was loud and clear that the type of changes CONGRESS has furthered in the past year ain't gonna cut it. Any incumbent, particularly those on the liberal side, does so at their own peril.

No, I didn't expect BHO to fix everything overnight...but I DID expect him to be a bit more responsive to THE MASSES rather than only the folks that elected him and the CONGRESS that has their own agenda. Back-door dealings (what happened to putting all the business of Congress on C-Span???), cutting deals to get votes (does Nebraska and Louisiana ring a bell?), and "no earmarks" (that one fell by the wayside early on; we should have known what would follow) should be enough to make EVERYONE'S blood boil, liberal or conservative.

I heard a news commentator today say that BHO still has time to save the legacy of his Presidency. He's gonna have to choose to do business in a way different than what he's chosen so far if he hopes to achieve anything FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE in the next 3 years.

For THE PEOPLE regards,

kg

menmon
01-21-2010, 04:30 PM
Apparently you have never spent anytime in the Northeast or you would know that repubicans are the same as dems up there. You can't get elected if you are pro-life and pro-gun either. So this is no great victory for the republicans because he will vote with the dems most of the time.

You are absolutely correct the pres does not make law...and I hope you will look back since 1996 and count the years the repubs controlled congress and place blame where it should be.

huntinman
01-21-2010, 04:35 PM
It's gonna take these libs a while to get over this one!

Can you say "I'm Scott Brown, I'm from Wrentham...and I drive a truck!"?? Oh, and I'm a Republican"

Get used to it, there will be more...

menmon
01-21-2010, 04:40 PM
if you want rid of Obama...you better hope the dems carry the midterms or you will have him for another term...mark my words

Franco
01-21-2010, 04:42 PM
Apparently you have never spent anytime in the Northeast or you would know that repubicans are the same as dems up there. You can't get elected if you are pro-life and pro-gun either. So this is no great victory for the republicans because he will vote with the dems most of the time.

You are absolutely correct the pres does not make law...and I hope you will look back since 1996 and count the years the repubs controlled congress and place blame where it should be.

I am well aware that both the Clinton and Bush Administration were out-of-control with spending. What I don't like is the continuation of the out-of-control spending. In my view, Obama is making a bad situation worse. Now, they want to raise the Federal Deficit limit by 2 Trillion dollars!
Anyone can spend money but, it takes leadership to find the alternatives to spending money we don't have.

huntinman
01-21-2010, 04:43 PM
if you want rid of Obama...you better hope the dems carry the midterms or you will have him for another term...mark my words

What is your logic?

paul young
01-21-2010, 04:43 PM
i agree that we need term limits for the legislative branch very badly., and have said it here repeatedly.

too bad we the people can't write and sponsor the bill. that's the only way it will ever happen...

no way they will vote their way out of a job. but it would be fun to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from all the lobbyists. it might mean their demise, too.-Paul

Eric Johnson
01-21-2010, 04:48 PM
I posted the article from Der Spiegel to give members here some idea of what was being said overseas. If you are upset with the article, take it up in Berlin.

Eric

K G
01-21-2010, 05:28 PM
Apparently you have never spent anytime in the Northeast or you would know that repubicans are the same as dems up there. You can't get elected if you are pro-life and pro-gun either. So this is no great victory for the republicans because he will vote with the dems most of the time.

Did you watch Brown's acceptance speech Tuesday night? I know you didn't...either that or you couldn't comprehend what he was saying. WHY is Nancy Pelosi saying the BHO health care plan is DEAD after his election???:o


You are absolutely correct the pres does not make law...and I hope you will look back since 1996 and count the years the repubs controlled congress and place blame where it should be.

You've not spent much time around here sambo...and I know that not only by your post total but by your interest in placing BLAME. I know a liberal when I see one! ;-) If blame is all you're interested in, you're on the wrong board.


if you want rid of Obama...you better hope the dems carry the midterms or you will have him for another term...mark my words

This makes -zero- sense...:rolleyes:

kg

Matt McKenzie
01-21-2010, 05:37 PM
I didn't know that Bush shorted us into Bolivia. I guess I need to brush up on the old Espanol.

dback
01-21-2010, 05:50 PM
I didn't know that Bush shorted us into Bolivia. I guess I need to brush up on the old Espanol.

Or that he was a 'war mongrel' :-)

precisionlabradors
01-21-2010, 06:24 PM
You've not spent much time around here sambo...and I know that not only by your post total but by your interest in placing BLAME. I know a liberal when I see one! ;-) If blame is all you're interested in, you're on the wrong board.



This makes -zero- sense...:rolleyes:

kg


or is it if you place blame on the wrong side? because i see a lot of blame placement.
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K G
01-21-2010, 06:46 PM
or is it if you place blame on the wrong side? because i see a lot of blame placement.

That was helpful....

:cool:.............

k g

precisionlabradors
01-21-2010, 06:53 PM
i did not intend for my interrogative to be helpful. i assume, maybe to make an ass of me, that your post to sambo telling him he is on the wrong board that motivated my question was not intended to be helpful either.
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menmon
01-22-2010, 10:28 AM
I did not say Bush was a war mongrel...but now that you mention it, I guess he was.

Obama has reduced the deficit since taking office...please look at year-over-year deficits and you will see about a $50B a month reduction in the deficit. Having said this, it is still out of control.

Now you ask how he did that, and the answer is debt restructuring. See Mr. Bush had expensive wars to finance when rates were high.

The good news is obama has taken advantange of the low long term rates as opposed to risking a rise in short term rates. Now Bush on the other hand, based on his actions in the past, would have enjoyed the lower rates, that would ultimatly sink our ship down the road when rates rose.

Bush cut your taxes so you thought he was hero, but he paid his bills by printing money so you had inflation tax (i.e., gasoline, electricity, food, etc.). I clearly had more of my money me when the tax rate was 39.6% versus 35% under Bush. Bottom-line it all gets paid for one way or another, but inflation is hardest on the low-income and fixed income earners, and I abandoned the republicans when I saw old people making decissions over buying gasoline or food. I like hanging on to my money as much as anyone, but not at the expense of my 80 year old mother. She fortunate enough to have a son that is able to assist her, but many mothers out there do not.

menmon
01-22-2010, 10:32 AM
My logic if the republicans take back congress, is that Americans, with the exception of you and the other Glen Beck fans, don't trust them either.

dback
01-22-2010, 10:40 AM
I can tune in to Glen Beck for this type of rhetoric, and it would not matter if the president was Jesus Christ and a democrat, Beck would spin every miracle he performed as bad, so that you toon in for another dose of his crap.

It is funny how people forget. Obama didn't cause these problems but you blame him. And you expect him to fix them over-night. So vote against him next time and get another tax-cutting war mongrel that will short us into Bolivia while his buddys get rich.

My bad...guess that wasn't you on Post #12 of this thread or maybe you were referring to Clinton??? Try again and at least use "warmonger" :rolleyes:

M&K's Retrievers
01-22-2010, 10:50 AM
[QUOTE=sambo;555206]
Obama has reduced the deficit since taking office...please look at year-over-year deficits and you will see about a $50B a month reduction in the deficit. QUOTE]

Where in the world did you get this bit of wisdom?

menmon
01-22-2010, 10:57 AM
just look at the monthly budget numbers...they report them every month...might have a little to do with how well the market is doing.

But it requires knowing how to read a spreadsheet. Glen Beck makes up his facts according to how outraged he wants his sheep, or goats or something that follows blindly, to be

Franco
01-22-2010, 12:17 PM
just look at the monthly budget numbers...they report them every month...might have a little to do with how well the market is doing.

But it requires knowing how to read a spreadsheet. Glen Beck makes up his facts according to how outraged he wants his sheep, or goats or something that follows blindly, to be

Looks like both Glen Beck and you like to make stuff up.

The Market is doing well? That would be news to Wall St.

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