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Uncle Bill
04-05-2010, 01:00 PM
...and how many he's created, it's interesting to see what he's NOT doing in that area. While where I live is also being affected, it is far less than much of the nation. Plus, since the two Dakotas have several reservations that constantly have high unemployment, regardless of what the economy is doing, OR how many casinos are in operation.

Here's a map that is quite amazing, both in the computerese required to make this work, but also how many are being affected in the private world. It would be interesting if this author could show the numbers of employed in the government, and that increase of employment.

UB



Unemployment Map
http ://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html (http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html)
What an unbelievable eye-opener this is! This unemployment map changes county by county over a period of two (3) years. You'll see the country as a whole. Someone did a lot of work on this one .
BE SURE TO CLICK "PLAY" ON THE MAP TO SEE THE CHANGES AS THEY OCCUR FROM JANUARY 2007 UNTIL JANUARY 2010

M&K's Retrievers
04-05-2010, 02:37 PM
Unemployment up 57% since obama took office. That damn Bush.

YardleyLabs
04-05-2010, 03:05 PM
Unemployment up 57% since obama took office. That damn Bush.
It would be hard to come up with a more misleading statistic. The graph below shows month to month changes in employment from January 2000 through January 2010 (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics):

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/graphics/CES0000000001_276260_1270493033085.gif
As is apparent, employment was trending downward from the beginning of 2006 through February 2009 when, coincidentally, the first parts of the stimulus program began to kick in. Employment has trended upwards ever since. It may be a long time before all of the losses from the downturn that began in 2006 are reversed. However, there can be no question that things have gotten better consistently since Obama became President. Were jobs still declining during 2009? Absolutely. However, the actual recovery was pretty dramatic as is evidenced by the changes in employment.

Uncle Bill
04-05-2010, 04:49 PM
It would be hard to come up with a more misleading statistic. The graph below shows month to month changes in employment from January 2000 through January 2010 (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics):

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/graphics/CES0000000001_276260_1270493033085.gif
As is apparent, employment was trending downward from the beginning of 2006 through February 2009 when, coincidentally, the first parts of the stimulus program began to kick in. Employment has trended upwards ever since. It may be a long time before all of the losses from the downturn that began in 2006 are reversed. However, there can be no question that things have gotten better consistently since Obama became President. Were jobs still declining during 2009? Absolutely. However, the actual recovery was pretty dramatic as is evidenced by the changes in employment.


You are utterly amazing with your constant falling on the sword for this man-child you bow to in the Whitehouse. If you can't recognize how ANY of the increase in employment is clearly attributable to government unionized jobs, you have more problems than your leg.

Temps in the census count. Thousands starting to be developed for the new IRS arm-twisters needed to enforce this incredibly convoluted healthcare bill.

But you like your MSP toadies that just keep looking the other way, as your nation falls into the grasp of this oligarchy, will some day realize what you have allowed to happen, your grandkids will be paying for forever. Have you no shame? You indeed are at the forefront of this message:

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.

It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us.

Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President."

-- Author Unknown

There aren't enough 'pain-killers' in the pharmacy that you can take to get a decent nights sleep from what you are causing your children to have to endure.

UB

road kill
04-05-2010, 05:08 PM
It would be hard to come up with a more misleading statistic. The graph below shows month to month changes in employment from January 2000 through January 2010 (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics):

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/graphics/CES0000000001_276260_1270493033085.gif
As is apparent, employment was trending downward from the beginning of 2006 through February 2009 when, coincidentally, the first parts of the stimulus program began to kick in. Employment has trended upwards ever since. It may be a long time before all of the losses from the downturn that began in 2006 are reversed. However, there can be no question that things have gotten better consistently since Obama became President. Were jobs still declining during 2009? Absolutely. However, the actual recovery was pretty dramatic as is evidenced by the changes in employment.

But you just did anyway!!;-)



rk

subroc
04-05-2010, 05:08 PM
speaking of legs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BccYZToEJDA

YardleyLabs
04-05-2010, 05:15 PM
You are utterly amazing with your constant falling on the sword for this man-child you bow to in the Whitehouse. If you can't recognize how ANY of the increase in employment is clearly attributable to government unionized jobs, you have more problems than your leg.

Temps in the census count. Thousands starting to be developed for the new IRS arm-twisters needed to enforce this incredibly convoluted healthcare bill.

But you like your MSP toadies that just keep looking the other way, as your nation falls into the grasp of this oligarchy, will some day realize what you have allowed to happen, your grandkids will be paying for forever. Have you no shame? You indeed are at the forefront of this message:

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.

It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us.

Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President."

-- Author Unknown

There aren't enough 'pain-killers' in the pharmacy that you can take to get a decent nights sleep from what you are causing your children to have to endure.

UB
You have an interesting theory with no facts to back it up. Government employment has remained essentially flat at 22.4-22.5 million since 2007. It has fluctuated between 16-17% of total employment. The 162,000 increase in jobs for last month included 48,000 census jobs and 120,000+ private sector jobs. (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Economic Survey). What is included in the growth is the impact of stimulus spending on private sector employment. Of course, that was the objective of the stimulus program from the beginning. There will undoubtedly be a negative drag as stimulus funds are withdrawn from the economy, as they must be to bring the deficit under control and avoid overheating the economy. That negative impact should start kicking in late this year. It remains to be determined whether the economy will maintain its growth as that happens. The Census kicks in with a large number of part time jobs every ten years. Those jobs are being reported along with other employment data to help in analyzing what is happening with the economy as a whole.

Uncle Bill
04-05-2010, 06:30 PM
Now who's doing the bloviating? All you need do is puch up Google and find what I'm stating. Even in little old Sodak, we have several hundred government jobs.

If you believe, which I'm sure as brainwashed as you've become to this administration, that the governmental labor force hasn't increased by quantum leaps, you ARE wearing blinders.

BTW, quoting government stats prepared for this administration is total fabrication and you know it. Stop acting as ignorant as you are coming off. Some of us would like to believe there is a modicum of common sense on the left, but every time you attempt to shove the Obama talking points down our throats, it just further cements how far you are willing to go to prove you didn't make such a God-awful mistake as voting for this complete waste of an empty suit.

You know he's lying through his teeth, yet you continue to support him, so that leaves you to be viewed as the imbecile. The time is coming when he'll most certainly gore your ox also. I can hardly wait for the gnashing to begin.

UB

dnf777
04-05-2010, 07:22 PM
The CBO wasn't questioned when it issued good reports under Bush....but now when it was bad for Bush or good for Obama???
This is like listening to a drunk argue! (except more predictable and repetitive)

YardleyLabs
04-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Now who's doing the bloviating? All you need do is puch up Google and find what I'm stating. Even in little old Sodak, we have several hundred government jobs.

If you believe, which I'm sure as brainwashed as you've become to this administration, that the governmental labor force hasn't increased by quantum leaps, you ARE wearing blinders.

BTW, quoting government stats prepared for this administration is total fabrication and you know it. Stop acting as ignorant as you are coming off. Some of us would like to believe there is a modicum of common sense on the left, but every time you attempt to shove the Obama talking points down our throats, it just further cements how far you are willing to go to prove you didn't make such a God-awful mistake as voting for this complete waste of an empty suit.

You know he's lying through his teeth, yet you continue to support him, so that leaves you to be viewed as the imbecile. The time is coming when he'll most certainly gore your ox also. I can hardly wait for the gnashing to begin.

UB
The Bureau of Labor Statistics has been the primary source for labor and employment data in the United States since its foundation in 1884. Its databases are used as the authoritative source for employment information by economists without regard to political orientation. They are publicly accessible and collected using methods that are clearly publicized.

Your comment evidences just how far into denial you will sink to support the unsupportable. I took my data straight from the database - you can formulate your own queries to get the data you want -- not from any press release create to spin anyone's story. It would be easy enough for you to prepare the graph that I provided using only private sector employment. You will find that the curve is the same and that rate of monthly job losses began to decline as soon as the stimulus program began to operate, whether by coincidence or not.

It is impossible to discuss or examine policy without first stipulating a data foundation that will be used to evaluate hypotheses. One of the most dangerous aspects of right wing extremists is that they reject any notion of factual validation, and dismiss all contrary data as the product of conspiracy. They then wonder why their demented fantasies receive no respect.

EDIT: In case you haven't been paying attention, state and local governments throughout the country have been reducing staff as property tax, sales tax, and income tax revenues have declined. A major use of stimulus funds was to supplement state budget to mitigate some of those cutbacks.