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Buzz
04-05-2010, 05:16 PM
An open letter...

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/a/m/americandad/2010/03/an-open-letter-to-conservative.php



"I grew up in a profoundly Republican home so I can remember when you wore a very different face than the one we see now."


The article is so extensively linked, you could spend a whole evening getting through it.:cool:

subroc
04-05-2010, 05:37 PM
Silly, just plain silly.

Right of it starts with race or in the case of this article, they call it color. An example of a basic falshood: Under the last President, George W. Bush, the face of the nation to the rest of the world was black in the form of Rice and Powell as Secretary of State. Both were selected on merit, not on the color of their skin.

Just cause it is written doesn’t mean any of it is true.

This left wing extremist republican hating article states some extreme left wing radical republican hating opinions then the author searches for extreme left wing radical republican hating links that they posit supports their extreme left wing radical republican hating canard.

How silly.

dnf777
04-05-2010, 05:48 PM
Silly, just plain silly.

Right of it starts with race or in the case of this article, they call it color. An example of a basic falshood: Under the last President, George W. Bush, the face of the nation to the rest of the world was black in the form of Rice and Powell as Secretary of State. Both were selected on merit, not on the color of their skin.

Just cause it is written doesnít mean any of it is true.

This left wing extremist republican hating article states some extreme left wing radical republican hating opinions then the author searches for extreme left wing radical republican hating links that they posit supports their extreme left wing radical republican hating canard.

How silly.


Subroc,
You're just the kind of person the article is talking about. Keep that attitude, and what happened in 2006 and 2008 will happen in 2010 and 2012!

If I had better prose and command of the English language, I would have penned a similar article, as most of what he said, I feel also. Funny though, I get called everything from socialist, liberal, jerk, left wing nut, etc...for disagreeing with the far right sentiments that prevail here. Oh well, so be it. We're in for some interesting times this upcoming election season. I personally prefer a balanced gov't, where no one party controls all bodies. I'm beginning to think, judging by the way republicans are acting, we're in for all dems for some time....esp if the economy comes back to life.

subroc
04-05-2010, 06:03 PM
Anecdotal, all of it. We just discussed this. It is hypocrisy when it is the other side, it is easily dismissed when it is your side. You left the Republican Party because you realized you are not a republican. No other reason. You can continue to couch it in whatever way you want but that is the truth of it.

I could do the exact same research and like my example of Rice and Powell, it would be anecdotal.

Party platforms illustrate what a party stands for.

Does every democrat politician have $90,000 of bribe money in their freezer like William Jefferson? Anecdotal, yet by your way of thinking and the article author, I could paint the entire democrat party as bribe takers.

Silly.

Uncle Bill
04-05-2010, 06:05 PM
Even those that take the time to go to this address, have some obvious comments:


This article is too damn funny, considering the democrats have spent the last year ignoring Americans and gave rise to what would never have happened in years past - the Tea Party.

Democrats have sold their souls so Obama could claim \\"victory\\" on health care. They gave away hundreds of billions rewarding industries so mismanaged they nearly collapsed the nation.

The dems were the \\"joke party\\" the last 8 years, nearly doomed. The squandered their \\"come back\\" attempt by ignoring america, taking bribes and kickbacks and will soon be the joke political party again.

Real change is coming, First Reid, then Pelosi then Obama! Lest just hope our nation can survive!

Always encouraging to read what others have to say about the 'real' Democrat party. Heh heh heh heh

UB

dnf777
04-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Does every democrat politician have $90,000 of bribe money in their freezer like William Jefferson? Anecdotal, yet by your way of thinking and the article author, I could paint the entire democrat party as bribe takers.

Silly.

Good example. He has been charged and in the process of being convicted, if not already. Rather than defend that, as you are the article, I will come right out and say he is a criminal and should be subjected to expedited justice, and thrown in jail! Let's hear someone from the right say that about Rove??

subroc
04-05-2010, 06:10 PM
What are you accusing Rove of? Being competant?

Franco
04-05-2010, 06:19 PM
That article paints the Repubs with a mighty broad brush. It is obvioulsy a one-sided spin written by a Democrat that spends entirly too much time listening to Rush Limbaugh!

I agree, the article is silly.

Carl Rove? What about the criminals known as Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? The two that were asleep at the whell and largly responsible for the subprime fiacso.

subroc
04-05-2010, 06:34 PM
...I agree, the article is silly.

Carl Rove? What about the criminals known as Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? The two that were asleep at the whell and largly responsible for the subprime fiacso.

That is thing about dnf777, he doesn't see democrat crimes like Frank and Dodd until it is William Jefferson doing the purp walk, yet he see's Rove crimes where none exist.

silly

dnf777
04-05-2010, 07:08 PM
Wait until the Alabama governor case comes to light. I have no problem calling out a crook. Just did with Jefferson. Let's see if a rightie can name ONE republican they'd like to see in jail?? Both sides have plenty to pick from. Let's hear one of your own that you won't defend? It doesn't hurt, I promise.

Franco
04-05-2010, 07:14 PM
By the way, Willy Jefferson was found guilty about 3 months ago and is awaiting his sentencing in Antigua spending 3 grand a day and his been there since the trial ended. The 90k in the frig was just the tip of the iceberg but, AG Eric Holder doesn't want to look any further into his dealings. Willy's brother was found guilty two months ago for paying bribes to the Orleans Parish school board director. He is also awaiting sentencing at some over the top resort. In fact, they also got other family memebers stealing Fed Grant money targeted to help the poor. They won't go after Willy's daughters who are also dirty because they have Ivy League educations(paid for with stolen/dirty money).

dnf777
04-05-2010, 07:18 PM
By the way, Willy Jefferson was found guilty about 3 months ago and is awaiting his sentencing in Antigua spending 3 grand a day and his been there since the trial ended. The 90k in the frig was just the tip of the iceberg but, AG Eric Holder doesn't want to look any further into his dealings. Willy's brother was found guilty two months ago for paying bribes to the Orleans Parish school board director. He is also awaiting sentencing at some over the top resort. In fact, they also got other family memebers stealing Fed Grant money targeted to help the poor. They won't go after Willy's daughters who are also dirty because they have Ivy League educations(paid for with stolen/dirty money).

Sounds like good ol' New Orleans politics to me! How's David Vitter doing, BTW? Eric Holder doesn't seem interested in stirring ANYONE's pot for some reason. Rove, Jefferson, Cheney, Edwards.....the list goes on.....they're all getting free walks. (well, not Jeffy, he'll be cuttin' cane before long)

Franco
04-05-2010, 07:19 PM
Wait until the Alabama governor case comes to light. I have no problem calling out a crook. Just did with Jefferson. Let's see if a rightie can name ONE republican they'd like to see in jail?? Both sides have plenty to pick from. Let's hear one of your own that you won't defend? It doesn't hurt, I promise.

I'd like to see Rush Limbaugh sentenced to radio hell..a 3 watt station in Bumcrap, Egypt! And, for his cellmate, one Sean Hannity. The GOP would be much better off! Afterall, these two are the mouth of the party and they do a pitiful job of representation!

dnf777
04-05-2010, 07:23 PM
I do appreciate the effort, but even I would defend their right to self-destruct!
As far as I know, they've broken no laws.
Well, I hear people are starting to examine Hannity's charitable books?

subroc
04-05-2010, 07:41 PM
I like Rush.

Franco
04-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Well, I hear people are starting to examine Hannity's charitable books?



I couldn't tell you about that. The last time I listened to Hannity was a couple of Decembers ago and we are an affiliate here in town! He was talking about getting his sons the latest edition Sony Playstations. Sony had released a limited quantity and folks had to be early to the stores to get them before they sold out. He was bragging about paying 5 x's thier retail price because of some "in" he had with someone that worked at one of the stores. He made himself appear trite. Then he started defending our invasion of Iraq. He said it was the frontline against Islamic terrorism. As recently as two years ago, he was still defending Bush & Chaney's decision to invade/nation build. Just a bunch of hollow yapping so, and I said to myself that I couldn't take anymore of his show.

Franco
04-05-2010, 07:58 PM
I like Rush.



To give credit where due, he was correct about Donovan McNabb! He was also correct about how the league and network were making it seem that MCNabb was more talented than he was.

I figured the Cowboys would have the NFC East locked up next season but, a McNabbless Philly might be the sleeper in that Divison.;-)

Franco
04-05-2010, 08:12 PM
Sounds like good ol' New Orleans politics to me! How's David Vitter doing, BTW? Eric Holder doesn't seem interested in stirring ANYONE's pot for some reason. Rove, Jefferson, Cheney, Edwards.....the list goes on.....they're all getting free walks. (well, not Jeffy, he'll be cuttin' cane before long)


NOLA is much better off, Mitch Landreau takes over as Mayor in early May. Mitch's father was Mayor prior to Dutch Morial. Moon Landreau was a very good Mayor. Mitch's sister, Mary is locally known as Katrina Mary and is our U S Senator. Hard to say if she will win relection, it will be a true test of the metro's demograhic shift since Katrina. Maybe she'll be in the new HBO series, "Treme", starting Sunday. New Orleanian, John Goodman also stars in the mini series.

Davis Vitter will easily win reelection. He has no opposition. He is a GOP puppet and as long as they are working the strings, they will support him with lots of cash.

If the Feds decide to go after Ray Nagim, they'll have to get him out of Havana because he won't be able to hide in his Dallas home.

subroc
04-05-2010, 08:30 PM
To give credit where due, he was correct about Donovan McNabb! He was also correct about how the league and network were making it seem that MCNabb was more talented than he was.

I figured the Cowboys would have the NFC East locked up next season but, a McNabbless Philly might be the sleeper in that Divison.;-)


McNabb is a confusing guy. I believe there are 3 elite QBs (Manning, Brady and Brees) in the NFL. Right behind them there are the second tier guys, Rivers, E. Manning, etc. That list could be 6 or 7 to 15 depending on who you ask. McNabb would have to be included in that group. But, whatever it is, he is clearly missing something. No (or I would be surprised if a) young QB will enter the NFC East, at least in the first year and have a significant impact. This could be the Cowboys year.

dnf777
04-05-2010, 08:35 PM
McNabb is a confusing guy. I believe there are 3 elite QBs (Manning, Brady and Brees) in the NFL. Right behind them there are the second tier guys, Rivers, E. Manning, etc. That list could be 6 or 7 to 15 depending on who you ask. McNabb would have to be included in that group. But, whatever it is, he is clearly missing something. No (or I would be surprised if a) young QB will enter the NFC East, at least in the first year and have a significant impact. This could be the Cowboys year.

Did you forget Roethlisberger, or just didn't want to start a whole new thread on his shenanigans? :(

Franco
04-05-2010, 08:39 PM
McNabb is a confusing guy. I believe there are 3 elite QBs (Manning, Brady and Brees) in the NFL. Right behind them there are the second tier guys, Rivers, E. Manning, etc. That list could be 6 or 7 to 15 depending on who you ask. McNabb would have to be included in that group. But, whatever it is, he is clearly missing something. No (or I would be surprised if a) young QB will enter the NFC East, at least in the first year and have a significant impact. This could be the Cowboys year.

I think Brady is not the Brady of yesteryear. I don't see that fire/drive for excellence he once had. He just hasn't been the same since the knee injury. In all fairness though, the Pats have lost a lot of talent over the last two seasons.

I agree, Dallas should win the East but, a Kolb led Eagles team could be a major surprise in that Division. The Giants are still looking for a Defense and the Skins are already looking to unload Al Haynesworth and his obscene contract.

subroc
04-05-2010, 09:49 PM
My top 3 are my top 3.

As far as Brady, the first year back from an injury and statistically he had a good year but the intangible of being able to pull off miracles was clearly not there. This year will tell if he will be the Tom Brady of old. With all athletes there is some point when they start to decline. Some decline in a rush, in a year they are gone. Others take several years and still show qualities that made them great even in their later years. Only time will tell what kind of athlete Brady ends up being

As far as Roethlisberger goes, by my way of thinking he is a second tier guy.

BonMallari
04-05-2010, 10:32 PM
I think Brady is not the Brady of yesteryear. I don't see that fire/drive for excellence he once had. He just hasn't been the same since the knee injury. In all fairness though, the Pats have lost a lot of talent over the last two seasons.

I agree, Dallas should win the East but, a Kolb led Eagles team could be a major surprise in that Division. The Giants are still looking for a Defense and the Skins are already looking to unload Al Haynesworth and his obscene contract.

If you had Giselle Bundchen at home like Tom Terrific , you might be a little off your game too :D

cotts135
04-07-2010, 07:48 AM
That is thing about dnf777, he doesn't see democrat crimes like Frank and Dodd until it is William Jefferson doing the purp walk, yet he see's Rove crimes where none exist.

silly

Please enlighten me with the crimes that Frank and Dodd have commited. If memory serves me right I think what you are accusing of dnf777 of doing is the same thing that you did when it was brought to your attention of the lawbreaking that Bush and Cheney were involved in. Fisa comes to mind. Just recently Federal Judge Vaughn Walker found that President Bush's warrantless wiretap program was illegal.

Hew
04-07-2010, 08:22 AM
Just recently Federal Judge Vaughn Walker found that President Bush's warrantless wiretap program was illegal.
You read the judgement and that's the conclusion you came to? Really?

subroc
04-07-2010, 08:25 AM
Please enlighten me with the crimes that Frank and Dodd have commited. If memory serves me right I think what you are accusing of dnf777 of doing is the same thing that you did when it was brought to your attention of the lawbreaking that Bush and Cheney were involved in. Fisa comes to mind. Just recently Federal Judge Vaughn Walker found that President Bush's warrantless wiretap program was illegal.



:D What am I explaining the punch line to a joke here? I though the logic was pretty clear. :D

OK, let me walk you through this simple point.

William Jefferson was convicted. dnf777 considers him worthy of being thrown in jail.

Rove is convicted of nothing. The crime you hate him for is being a republican. He hasn’t been convicted of anything.

Frank and Dodd and their regulatory control are responsible for the banking crisis by pushing for more low interest loans. They are responsible for the rules that created the thing. I would call that a crime. They have not been convicted of anything.

There is the equivalence between Rove as well as Frank and Dodd.

As far as wire tapping the enemy when they call the United States which you call warrantless wiretaps, we will see how that plays out.

aandw
04-07-2010, 08:34 AM
what crime should rove, bush, and cheney be convicted of? don't give me your dem. talking point bull, just the facts.
i agree if they broke the law they should be held responsible. unfortunately, you can't convict someone of being selfish, greedy, immoral, lying, or being stupid. if you could uneployment in washington would sky-rocket.

dixidawg
04-07-2010, 08:42 AM
Please enlighten me with the crimes that Frank and Dodd have commited. .


How about gross incompetence, or if not then flat out lying?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/business/new-agency-proposed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html?pagewanted=all

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

cotts135
04-07-2010, 09:04 AM
You read the judgement and that's the conclusion you came to? Really?

After reading the summary of judgement (http://static1.firedoglake.com/28/files/2010/03/100331-al-Haramain-Order.pdf) thats what I believe
The question of standing was also addressed in the brief and the judge ruled in the plaintiffs favor.
I would be interested what your take is.

Franco
04-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Chris Dodd used his political power to get a special deal on his new home from Countrywide Mortgage all the while turning a blindeye to their lending practices. Countrywide went bellyup at the expense of tax payers.

Why was he not investigated and prosecuted? ;-)

Buzz
04-07-2010, 10:36 AM
Amazing. An article that discusses hypocrisy, hyperbole, history, and hatred. And the discussion veers immediately away from ANYTHING in the article, and straight to corruption.

Nothing like changing the subject, although I can understand why you all would want to do that.;-)

ducknwork
04-07-2010, 11:47 AM
Buzz, is there any thread on here that stays on topic? No....I think you are making something out of nothing, although I can understand why you would want to do that.

Franco
04-07-2010, 01:41 PM
Amazing. An article that discusses hypocrisy, hyperbole, history, and hatred. And the discussion veers immediately away from ANYTHING in the article, and straight to corruption.

Nothing like changing the subject, although I can understand why you all would want to do that.;-)

And, the left is free of hypocrisy? Both parties could go tit for tat, it is not a one way street. Frankly, the article isn't worth a discussion.

Byron Musick
04-07-2010, 01:52 PM
I just noticed all the AVITAR's in this thread are BLACK dogs, is this racist? Oh I forgot there is one small white baby smoking? I only posted to put a Yeller Dog in the mix, to even out the story line.. :)

david gibson
04-07-2010, 02:21 PM
I just noticed all the AVITAR's in this thread are BLACK dogs, is this racist? Oh I forgot there is one small white baby smoking? I only posted to put a Yeller Dog in the mix, to even out the story line.. :)

aw jeeze - affirmative action is hitting RTF! way to go Byron! ;-)

Buzz
04-07-2010, 03:17 PM
I just noticed all the AVITAR's in this thread are BLACK dogs, is this racist? Oh I forgot there is one small white baby smoking? I only posted to put a Yeller Dog in the mix, to even out the story line.. :)

Once you go black, you never go back!

Actually I have a pretty nice yeller dog too.

dnf777
04-07-2010, 03:42 PM
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]As far as Roethlisberger goes, by my way of thinking he is a second tier guy.

There have been many times I wouldn't have argued with you. I was not a big fan. I must admit though, 5 years in the big leagues, and two gold rings ain't bad. The guy, despite looking aloof most of the time, somehow manages to put more points on the board when the clock says zero, than his opponents.

ducknwork
04-07-2010, 04:53 PM
I just noticed all the AVITAR's in this thread are BLACK dogs, is this racist? Oh I forgot there is one small white baby smoking? I only posted to put a Yeller Dog in the mix, to even out the story line.. :)

Just imagine how someone who owns a dudley might feel around here...:(

subroc
04-07-2010, 06:16 PM
Amazing. An article that discusses hypocrisy, hyperbole, history, and hatred. And the discussion veers immediately away from ANYTHING in the article, and straight to corruption.

Nothing like changing the subject, although I can understand why you all would want to do that.;-)


You mean the lefts view of Rove and the rights view of Frank and Dodd. Might be hypocracy. I don't know.

It was pointed put early on that the article didn't have any merit. Why continue to kick that dead dog?

road kill
04-07-2010, 06:22 PM
You mean the lefts view of Rove and the rights view of Frank and Dodd. Might be hypocracy. I don't know.

It was pointed put early on that the article didn't have any merit. Why continue to kick that dead dog?


He don't have no other dogs to kick!!:D



rk

YardleyLabs
04-07-2010, 06:22 PM
You mean the lefts view of Rove and the rights view of Frank and Dodd. Might be hypocracy. I don't know.

It was pointed put early on that the article didn't have any merit. Why continue to kick that dead dog?
It was stated that the article didn't have any merit. It was dismissed based solely on disagreement with its perspective. I have seen no analysis at all of its factual assertions. Shouldn't the accuracy or inaccuracy of the article carry some weight?

subroc
04-07-2010, 06:48 PM
well, I am not the one that will kick the dead dog, feel free if you want.

caryalsobrook
04-08-2010, 10:54 AM
This is the first post I have made on any forum. Seeing each person's opinions and perspective is interesting, but I have yet to see what anyone wants to see our country look like. I am a retired dentist and consider myself a libertarian. Don't let the fact that I am a dentist fool you. I worked delivering newspapers when I was 10 and worked all through high school. I worked for IBM after college and ate beans and rice and saved as much as I could for 5 years which was enough to pay my tuition, books and fees and equiipment through dental school.

What I have always looked for is the INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM to live and work in peace in the field of my choice with the opportunity to succeed or fail. I wanted my neighbor to have the right to hire me to provide them dental treatment if they so chose and I wanted me to have the right to refuse the job if I so chose(not discriminating due to race,religion, ethnic origin, sex or age). I loved my work and am extremely proud of my profession. Enough of my sentimentality.

Let me tell you what you can expect of this health care bill of the democrats. I did my share of treatment for those disadvantaged and those developmentally challenged. I am sure I was an average dentist. All work such as this will end. Once the government pays for all health care, there will be no charitable work. You see once the government takes over then it determines what level of care each is to receive and no charity is necessary. My neighbor can no longer hire me to treat him(her) because the government will be the only one that I will be allowed to work for. THe level of compensation will be determined by the government and therefore where I work and where I live will be determined by the government. A current example of this wa recently the Mayo Clinic in Arizona. They no longer will treat medicare patients (5000 in number) because of the compensation fees determined by the bureaucrats in Washington. The Mayo Clinic must accept the government payment and cannot be reimbursed any difference by the patient. Just for information sake, if you have medicare and you see a doctor that doesn't participate in medicare then you will pay for THE ENTIRE TREATMENT. Medicare wil pay nothing.

I see profession bastardized. I see my freedom to live and work in freedom without interference of the government ended. I see the freedom of patients to choose to hire me or fire me ended. I see the democrats, most government employees, trial lawyers, union bosses and acorn promoting these things. I will do what I can to see that this does not happen. For 35 years I believe that I gave the best treatment I possibly could no matter if the patient was the Pope or a serial killer. It did not matter if my son was arrested for drugs(never happened), my wife wreacked the car(that did happen:)), I had a headache or an employee quit. That was my JOB. I am proud of that. But I must say that if this health plan comes into effect I vow to return to practice and do what I can to let the American people see what our government had done to us.

95% of the American people are good hard working people who want to live in peace, have the opportunity to work and be paid for the work they do and raise theri family the best they can and provide their children with a better opportunity than they had. 5% try to find a way not to do these things. I care about the 95% the most.

I do not wish to offend anyone, I only wish them to see the truth.

M&K's Retrievers
04-08-2010, 11:30 AM
This is the first post I have made on any forum. Seeing each person's opinions and perspective is interesting, but I have yet to see what anyone wants to see our country look like. I am a retired dentist and consider myself a libertarian. Don't let the fact that I am a dentist fool you. I worked delivering newspapers when I was 10 and worked all through high school. I worked for IBM after college and ate beans and rice and saved as much as I could for 5 years which was enough to pay my tuition, books and fees and equiipment through dental school.

What I have always looked for is the INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM to live and work in peace in the field of my choice with the opportunity to succeed or fail. I wanted my neighbor to have the right to hire me to provide them dental treatment if they so chose and I wanted me to have the right to refuse the job if I so chose(not discriminating due to race,religion, ethnic origin, sex or age). I loved my work and am extremely proud of my profession. Enough of my sentimentality.

Let me tell you what you can expect of this health care bill of the democrats. I did my share of treatment for those disadvantaged and those developmentally challenged. I am sure I was an average dentist. All work such as this will end. Once the government pays for all health care, there will be no charitable work. You see once the government takes over then it determines what level of care each is to receive and no charity is necessary. My neighbor can no longer hire me to treat him(her) because the government will be the only one that I will be allowed to work for. THe level of compensation will be determined by the government and therefore where I work and where I live will be determined by the government. A current example of this wa recently the Mayo Clinic in Arizona. They no longer will treat medicare patients (5000 in number) because of the compensation fees determined by the bureaucrats in Washington. The Mayo Clinic must accept the government payment and cannot be reimbursed any difference by the patient. Just for information sake, if you have medicare and you see a doctor that doesn't participate in medicare then you will pay for THE ENTIRE TREATMENT. Medicare wil pay nothing.

I see profession bastardized. I see my freedom to live and work in freedom without interference of the government ended. I see the freedom of patients to choose to hire me or fire me ended. I see the democrats, most government employees, trial lawyers, union bosses and acorn promoting these things. I will do what I can to see that this does not happen. For 35 years I believe that I gave the best treatment I possibly could no matter if the patient was the Pope or a serial killer. It did not matter if my son was arrested for drugs(never happened), my wife wreacked the car(that did happen:)), I had a headache or an employee quit. That was my JOB. I am proud of that. But I must say that if this health plan comes into effect I vow to return to practice and do what I can to let the American people see what our government had done to us.

95% of the American people are good hard working people who want to live in peace, have the opportunity to work and be paid for the work they do and raise theri family the best they can and provide their children with a better opportunity than they had. 5% try to find a way not to do these things. I care about the 95% the most.

I do not wish to offend anyone, I only wish them to see the truth.

Welcome! But don't come on here making sense. What were you thinking?:-P:-P

ducknwork
04-08-2010, 11:53 AM
This new guy might just be all right...:D

Although I think your 5% estimate is a little low...other than that, thumbs up and welcome.