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Uncle Bill
04-07-2010, 01:08 PM
...how you feel about his stupidity? Here's a fax that's being sent to Lindsey Graham's office from many concerned Americans.

UB



DEAR SEN. GRAHAM,
In 2007, the American people stood up and told the Congress: "We do not want an amnesty for illegal aliens." What about that message do you not understand?


Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. There are 15 million American workers who are unable to find work and further 10 million who cannot find a full-time job. Every one of these 25 million Americans are victims of illegal immigration.


Any legislation that amnesties the 12-18 million illegal aliens living in the United States would destroy the hopes and aspirations of these 25 million Americans. Do you really want this on your conscience?


I urge you to oppose, not support, any comprehensive amnesty legislation in 2010. The American people are counting on Congress to do the right thing; please don't let us down.
Sincerely,
(Your Name Will Appear Here)

Franco
04-07-2010, 01:21 PM
One would think we would have learned our lesson when Pres. Reagan declared Amnesty. That act led to a flood of illegals. It would be no different this time around.

It is too bad we can't swap with the countries south of the boarder, thier workers for our porch sitters. They do jobs that the poor are unwilling to do here because our unemployed get paid to stay at home. But, the good comes with the bad. Along with thier worth ethic, we also get the criminals, the sick, and the uneducated.

We don't need another Amnesty Bill. We need to prosecute those hiring illegals and stop paying people to not work.

And, where in the hell is the Republican leadership?

Uncle Bill
04-07-2010, 02:46 PM
And, where in the hell is the Republican leadership?





And if we had some, they would be able to do what? Grahamnesty was part of the Bush amnesty crowd. That's why the fax asks what part of the previous rebuff he doesn't understand?

And, as much as you dislike Palen, she was the only one on the GOP ticket that WAS in favor of NO amnesty. Her campaigning for McCain is just repaying a favor. She no doubt has a certain amount of respect for McCain, but like most real conservatives, she probably won't be too upset if J.D. Hayworth unseats him.

The fratricide occurring among the 'republican' voters is being chastised by several supposedly 'conservative-to-the-bone' pundits. They slam anyone that isn't gratuitous toward the present Republicans they find no fault with, and seem to expect the electorate to seperate the good guys from the rest.

If the Americans that have had it with what's in Congress, you can bet the RINOs are in as much trouble as the Democrats...and that should include Graham, McCain, as well as the two Maine beauties that repeatedly vote against most programs conservative.

So to answer your question, they don't exist at this time. But to make my point, what chance would even a Reagan have in this present environment?

And as an aside, I wish you would read up on the history of the Reagan amnesty situation, before you just flippently throw out there it was all his fault. Believe it or not, there was a Congress involved.

UB

kjrice
04-07-2010, 02:52 PM
It is more about a ploy for the Dems to strengthen their numbers.

YardleyLabs
04-07-2010, 03:07 PM
One would think we would have learned our lesson when Pres. Reagan declared Amnesty. That act led to a flood of illegals. It would be no different this time around.

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I tried to find anything that would support this statement but was unsuccessful. From the estimates I did find, it looks like the immigration flood didn't really begin until around 1999 with the greatest growth rates beginning around 2001. By that time, the estimated rate of illegal immigration appears to be running around five or more times what it was before and following the Reagan amnesty program. Obviously, all estimates are inherently suspect.

Buzz
04-07-2010, 03:16 PM
And, where in the hell is the Republican leadership?


You can find it right here:

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.hannity.com/

http://www.glennbeck.com

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

http://www.johngibson.com/

http://wilkowmajority.com/

Franco
04-07-2010, 03:27 PM
And as an aside, I wish you would read up on the history of the Reagan amnesty situation, before you just flippently throw out there it was all his fault. Believe it or not, there was a Congress involved.

UB

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/06/us/us-is-expanding-amnesty-program-for-illegal-aliens.html

He was the President and he supported it.

Jeff, I was living and working in Los Angeles not long after the 1987 Amnesty. All I can tell you is that the illegals would line up in the morning on Sipulvata(sp) at Santa Monica by the hundreds waiting for someone to pick them up to take them to thier day jobs. We didn't see the trickle until later in the 90's outside of the boarder states. They started migrating outside the boarder states when they realized that not many were willing to enforce the law of the land.

Franco
04-07-2010, 03:30 PM
You can find it right here:

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.hannity.com/

http://www.glennbeck.com

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

http://www.johngibson.com/

http://wilkowmajority.com/

Yea I know, Talk Show host are defining the party. Sad but, true.

Buzz
04-07-2010, 03:31 PM
We didn't see the trickle until later in the 90's outside of the boarder states. They started migrating outside the boarder states when they realized that not many were willing to enforce the law of the land.

It was in the 90's when they first began driving friends and family out of construction jobs in drywall and roofing. My brother found that he couldn't bid a job that would make him any money. But he would get hired after the fact to come in and fix the mistakes. He confronted a contractor on it and was told that it was still cheaper to get the Mexicans to do the job and then pay him for clean-up.

BonMallari
04-07-2010, 05:03 PM
You can find it right here:

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.hannity.com/

http://www.glennbeck.com

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

http://www.johngibson.com/

http://wilkowmajority.com/


Buzz you left out my favorite gal Laura Ingraham :D....I am impressed that you had all those sites bookmarked

I will say this for conservative talk radio, they get conservatives fired up more than some of the clowns in office that pander for votes and pivot with the changing wind

But they are not the leadership of the Republican party

depittydawg
05-03-2010, 08:25 PM
One would think we would have learned our lesson when Pres. Reagan declared Amnesty. That act led to a flood of illegals. It would be no different this time around.

It is too bad we can't swap with the countries south of the boarder, thier workers for our porch sitters. They do jobs that the poor are unwilling to do here because our unemployed get paid to stay at home. But, the good comes with the bad. Along with thier worth ethic, we also get the criminals, the sick, and the uneducated.

We don't need another Amnesty Bill. We need to prosecute those hiring illegals and stop paying people to not work.

And, where in the hell is the Republican leadership?

I have agree with you on this one. Why in the world are we paying unemployment to people for several years! Enough is enough. Anybody who wants to work can easily find a job within 6 months in just about any profession. No it might not be as good as your last job, but it is work and income.

M&K's Retrievers
05-03-2010, 10:52 PM
I have agree with you on this one. Why in the world are we paying unemployment to people for several years! Enough is enough. Anybody who wants to work can easily find a job within 6 months in just about any profession. No it might not be as good as your last job, but it is work and income.

How old are you and where do you live?

Henry V
05-03-2010, 11:12 PM
"Anyone else interested in telling this numbskull..."

Shoot, UB, I clicked on this thread thinking that you were looking for some direct feedback.:)

depittydawg
05-03-2010, 11:26 PM
How old are you and where do you live?

???? Havn't been asked that since I tired to by a six pack when I was 16 years old. Why do you ask this?

Pete
05-03-2010, 11:37 PM
[QUOTE]It is too bad we can't swap with the countries south of the boarder, thier workers for our porch sitters. They do jobs that the poor are unwilling to do here because our unemployed get paid to stay at home. B/QUOTE]

I know first hand thats not all inclusive
My boys have been aced out on many jobs around here buy people who can't speak a word of English,,including picking vegies in the hot sun. Mexicans aren't the only ones that can handle hard work for little pay.
They finally landed a job and these 2 white boys earned great respect from the chicono's .
Being in an all mexican work force look down on white boys. My kids kicked ass, and earned their respect.

Pete

M&K's Retrievers
05-04-2010, 01:36 AM
... Anybody who wants to work can easily find a job within 6 months in just about any profession. No it might not be as good as your last job, but it is work and income.


???? Havn't been asked that since I tired to by a six pack when I was 16 years old. Why do you ask this?

Because a person's age, past experience, the possibility of being over qualified and location have a lot to do with the opportunities available. I take it that you, like obama and the majority of his staff, have never run a business, met a payroll or had to lay off good people. You, sir, need to wake up and realize that with unemployment at 10+% (depending on location), jobs are not that easily found.