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Uncle Bill
04-08-2010, 06:02 PM
...has prompted me to post an article from one of my favorite conservative writers. Unlike most of the libs posting URLs, I rather enjoy cut and pasting, primarily because it pisses off Henry and Hugh...it makes my day.

So here she is...tada!!! Read and enjoy. UB


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Oh, Canada!
by Ann Coulter (http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?author_name=Ann+Coulter)


Since arriving in Canada I've been accused of thought crimes, threatened with criminal prosecution for speeches I hadn't yet given and denounced on the floor of the Parliament (which was nice because that one was on my "bucket list").

Posters advertising my speech have been officially banned, while posters denouncing me are plastered all over the University of Ottawa campus. Elected officials have been prohibited from attending my speeches. Also, the local clothing stores are fresh out of brown shirts.

Welcome to Canada!



The provost of the University of Ottawa, average student IQ: 0, wrote to me—widely disseminating his letter to at least a half-dozen intermediaries before it reached me—in advance of my visit in order to recommend that I familiarize myself with Canada's criminal laws regarding hate speech.

This marks the first time I've ever gotten hate mail for something I might do in the future.

Apparently Canadian law forbids "promoting hatred against any identifiable group," which the provost, Francois A. Houle advised me, "would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges."

I was given no specific examples of what words and phrases I couldn't use, but I take it I'm not supposed to say, "F----you, Francois."

While it was a relief to know that it is still permissible in Canada to promote hatred against unidentifiable groups, upon reading Francois' letter, I suddenly realized that I had just been the victim of a hate crime! And it was committed by Francois A. Houle (French for "Frank A. Hole").

What other speakers get a warning not to promote hatred? Did Francois A. Houle send a similarly worded letter to Israel-hater Omar Barghouti before he spoke last year at U of Ottawa? ("Ottawa": Indian for "Land of the Bed-Wetters.")

How about Angela Davis, Communist Party member and former Black Panther who spoke at the University of Zero just last month?

Or do only conservatives get letters admonishing them to be civil? Or—my suspicion—is it only conservative women who fuel Francois' rage?

How about sending a letter to all Muslim speakers advising them to please bathe once a week while in Canada? Would that constitute a hate crime?

I'm sure Canada's Human Rights Commission will get to the bottom of Francois' strange warning to me, inasmuch as I will be filing a complaint with that august body, so I expect they will be reviewing every letter the university has sent to other speakers prior to their speeches to see if any of them were threatened with criminal prosecution.

Both writer Mark Steyn and editor Ezra Levant have been investigated by the Human Rights Commission for promoting hatred toward Muslims.

Levant's alleged crime was to reprint the cartoons of Mohammed originally published in a Danish newspaper, leading practitioners of the Religion of Peace to engage in murderous violence across the globe. Steyn's alleged crime was to publish an excerpt of his book, America Alone in Maclean's magazine, in which he jauntily described Muslims as "hot for jihad."

Both of them also flew jet airliners full of passengers into skyscrapers in lower Manhattan, resulting in thousands of deaths. No, wait—that was somebody else.

Curiously, however, there was no evidence that either the cartoons or the column did, in fact, incite hatred toward Muslims—nor was there the remotest possibility that they would.

By contrast, conservative speakers are regularly subjected to violent attacks on college campuses. Bill Kristol, Pat Buchanan, David Horowitz and I have all been the targets of infamous campus attacks.

That's why the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute (a sponsor of my Canada speeches) and the Young America's Foundation (a sponsor of many of my college speeches) don't send conservatives to college campuses without a bodyguard.

You'd have to be a real A-Houle not to anticipate that accusing a conservative of "promoting hatred" prior to her arrival on a college campus would in actuality—not in liberal fantasies of terrified Muslims cowering in terror of Mark Steyn readers—incite real-world violence toward the conservative.

The university itself acknowledged that Francois' letter was likely to provoke violence against me by demanding—long after my speech was scheduled, but immediately after Francois disseminated his letter—that my sponsors pony up more than $1,200 for extra security.

Also following Francois' letter, the Ottawa University Student Federation met for 7 1/2 hours to hammer out a series of resolutions denouncing me. The resolutions included:

"Whereas Ann Coulter is a hateful woman;
"Whereas she has made hateful comments against GLBTQ, Muslims, Jews and women;
"Whereas she violates an unwritten code of 'positive-space';
"Be it resolved that the SFUO express its disapproval of having Ann Coulter speak at the University of Ottawa."

At least the students didn't waste 7 1/2 hours on something silly, like their studies.

At the risk of violating anyone's positive space, what happened to Canada? How did the country that gave us Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Dan Aykroyd and Catherine O'Hara suddenly become a bunch of whining crybabies?

After Tuesday night, the hatred incited by Francois' letter is no longer theoretical. The police called off my speech when the auditorium was surrounded by thousands of rioting liberals—screaming, blocking the entrance, throwing tables, demanding that my books be burned, and finally setting off the fire alarm.

Sadly, I missed the book-burning because I never made it to the building.

But, reportedly, a Canadian crowd hasn't been this excited since they opened a new Tim Hortons. Local reporters couldn't make out what the crowd was chanting, but it was something about "Molson" and a "sled dog."

I've given more than 100 college speeches, and not once has one of my speeches been shut down at any point. Even the pie-throwing incident at the University of Arizona didn't break up the event. I said, "Get them!" and the college Republicans got them, and then I continued with my rambling, hate-filled diatribe—I mean, my speech.

So we've run this experiment more than 100 times.

Only one college speech was ever met with so much mob violence that the police were forced to cancel it: The one that was preceded by a letter from the university provost accusing me of hate speech.

(To add insult to injury, Francois didn't even plan to attend my speech because Tuesday is his bikini wax night.)

If a university official's letter accusing a speaker of having a proclivity to commit speech crimes before she's given the speech—which then leads to Facebook postings demanding that Ann Coulter be hurt, a massive riot and a police-ordered cancellation of the speech—is not hate speech, then there is no such thing as hate speech.

Either Francois goes to jail or the Human Rights Commission is a hoax and a fraud.

subroc
04-08-2010, 06:28 PM
I like Ann Coulter. I like the way she points out absurdity. She may do it better than anyone in media.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/ann_coulter.jpg

signgirl
04-08-2010, 09:15 PM
So...my brother and I think alike, though he arrived at this point far later than I did.
Here is a letter to the editor he wrote in response to an interview he saw on Megan Kelly's show in regard to the Anne Coulter fiasco....it ties in nicely with the "New Elite" article referenced in my other post. Susan G. Cole is one of our self important academics.

It also shows what is down the road for the United States if the attempts of hushing Conservative voices are successful.

"To the Editor,
After watching Susan G. Cole's interview on Fox News this Wednesday, I was rather shocked that she assumed to speak on behalf of all Canadians in her defense of those who blocked Anne Coulter from speaking at the University of Ottawa. It strikes me as odd that she failed to see the illogic inherent in her argument that Coulter's speech is no more than a series of provocations when her engagement was stopped by hundreds of protesters screaming provocations. I am guessing that if you were to throw a net over fifty of those young, Ottawa University protesters, few if any would have heard of Anne Coulter a week ago. None would have read her books, and even those few who might have known of her could have offered a single example of the "hate speech" they were so vehemently protesting. And while I am familiar with Coulter and the kind of hyperbole she is prone to, I have the confidence that I can hear disagreeable statements and yet still manage to think for myself. Is it not an insult to Canadians to assume that we cannot make up our own minds about the ideas to which we are exposed? Are we not infantilizing our own youth by deciding what philosophical views they can and cannot tolerate?
I often disagree with Coulter and find her sledgehammer approach offensive at times, but these are conclusions drawn from my own consideration and judgement. I did not need Susan G. Cole or anyone else to make that judgement for me.
Indeed, the cancellation of Coulter's Ottawa University engagement is a hollow victory for those determined to control the exchange and flow of ideas, for in the end they are guilty of the very sin they so vociferously attribute to Coulter. Have a little faith. Allow Canadians, particularly our youth, to make their own, informed judgement about what they hear.
'Idea Police" have no place in a free society, and even a cursory glance at recent history reveals the fallacy, indeed the danger inherent in such movements. If you do not believe me, then consider how this would play if the roles were reversed and it was Susan G. Cole being muzzled by ideologues who find her thoughts provocative and disturbing. It must work both ways or we succumb to the terrible gravity of intolerant self-importance and bigotry; precursors to the insidious creep of fascism where opposition and criticism are systematically and forcibly suppressed.
Mike Robinson"

Marvin S
04-08-2010, 10:36 PM
"To the Editor,
After watching Susan G. Cole's interview on Fox News this Wednesday, I was rather shocked that she assumed to speak on behalf of all Canadians in her defense of those who blocked Anne Coulter from speaking at the University of Ottawa. It strikes me as odd that she failed to see the illogic inherent in her argument that Coulter's speech is no more than a series of provocations when her engagement was stopped by hundreds of protesters screaming provocations. I am guessing that if you were to throw a net over fifty of those young, Ottawa University protesters, few if any would have heard of Anne Coulter a week ago. None would have read her books, and even those few who might have known of her could have offered a single example of the "hate speech" they were so vehemently protesting. And while I am familiar with Coulter and the kind of hyperbole she is prone to, I have the confidence that I can hear disagreeable statements and yet still manage to think for myself. Is it not an insult to Canadians to assume that we cannot make up our own minds about the ideas to which we are exposed? Are we not infantilizing our own youth by deciding what philosophical views they can and cannot tolerate?
I often disagree with Coulter and find her sledgehammer approach offensive at times, but these are conclusions drawn from my own consideration and judgement. I did not need Susan G. Cole or anyone else to make that judgement for me.
Indeed, the cancellation of Coulter's Ottawa University engagement is a hollow victory for those determined to control the exchange and flow of ideas, for in the end they are guilty of the very sin they so vociferously attribute to Coulter. Have a little faith. Allow Canadians, particularly our youth, to make their own, informed judgement about what they hear.
'Idea Police" have no place in a free society, and even a cursory glance at recent history reveals the fallacy, indeed the danger inherent in such movements. If you do not believe me, then consider how this would play if the roles were reversed and it was Susan G. Cole being muzzled by ideologues who find her thoughts provocative and disturbing. It must work both ways or we succumb to the terrible gravity of intolerant self-importance and bigotry; precursors to the insidious creep of fascism where opposition and criticism are systematically and forcibly suppressed.
Mike Robinson"

Good for your brother - Ms Coulter is not my cup of tea either, but I am sure I could find points where I would agree with her admirers. The attempt to muzzle dissent goes on daily at all levels, some of us just refuse to accept that level of censorship.

One nice thing is, with a population 1/10th of the US, you can turn things around much easier. It all takes a lot of work, the entrenched bureaucracy is adept at creating a drag on good ideas & the MSM is not very fair & balanced :(.

Keep up the dissent!!! :cool:

Koolaid
04-09-2010, 06:47 AM
Type in Coulter Canada into Youtube.
You'll see why we don't like her.
We're not Christian and obedient enough for her.

Here is one of my favourites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmcZG87Fmxc

You'll roll over and crush us? BooHoo we sent troups to Afganistan. We wanted nothing to do with nation building in Iraq. Also her smug know-it-all attitude has a hard time being wrong.

In the end though, let her say what she has to say. In my opinion I can't stand to listen to her, but hey, free speech.

Also that article doesn't go into very good detail of what actually happened. She did actually make what some would call hateful comments towards a Muslim student. Something along the lines of take a camel if you can't get on a plane. There was something else but I'm in a hurry to get to school so I can't look it all up. Those kind of comments just solidify my opinion of her. While it may have been her typical "hyperbole", some people up her are hypersensitive to offending Muslims after recent times. They have the right to bitch and moan as much as she does.

Terry Britton
04-09-2010, 11:26 AM
But Anne was right, Canada did send troops to Vietnam, even though they were limited in number and engagement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

signgirl
04-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Canada had the Mao/Castro loving, English disdaining Pierre Trudeau as Prime Minister for the majority of the Vietnam war. Enough said.

Canada has 3000 or so troops in Afghanistan right now and have been involved there for almost a decade. WE were involved in both world wars long before the Americans and were considered ferocious warriors until the 'peace loving' Trudeau rebranded our Armed Forces as "Peace Keepers" and denuded them of funding and support.

I could go on for pages about the price we are still paying for Mr. Trudeau's regime.

If you all want to see what a Silk Stocking Socialist can do, look no further....he was a
classically trained law professor (univ. of Montreal, Harvard, London School of Economics),
who
was young, cool looking, charismatic (amazing speaker in English and French)
loved big central government
never saw a social program he didn't implement
printed money we didn't have
disdained Bay Street (our Wall street)
reviled big business and profits
nationalized some very big business (Petro Canada)
grew government and Gov't unions
never saw a tax he didn't raise especially on the "rich"
mandated national bilingulaism (except for Quebec)
imposed stronger gun laws
legalized abortion, (and birth control)

and so on...........................(we already had health care mandated, so he didn't have to go there)

Trudeau was in power on and off (no term limits) for 16 years...we are still paying. Part of the price to extricate ourselves from the quagmire he started and the Provinces imitated
has been extrordinarily high taxes, a standard of living 10-15% below that in the U.S. and
a exodus of our best and brightest to the U.S and elsewhere.

I would like to think we have turned the corner and can see daylight. Our economy is in pretty good shape and Real Estate is on fire...no sub prime debacles because of tight lending requirements. WE have had some recent sensible governments, a strong wake up call and some pretty amazing natural resources. Not a bad place to be right now.

Cody Covey
04-09-2010, 02:00 PM
Type in Coulter Canada into Youtube.
You'll see why we don't like her.
We're not Christian and obedient enough for her.

Here is one of my favourites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmcZG87Fmxc

You'll roll over and crush us? BooHoo we sent troups to Afganistan. We wanted nothing to do with nation building in Iraq. Also her smug know-it-all attitude has a hard time being wrong.

In the end though, let her say what she has to say. In my opinion I can't stand to listen to her, but hey, free speech.

Also that article doesn't go into very good detail of what actually happened. She did actually make what some would call hateful comments towards a Muslim student. Something along the lines of take a camel if you can't get on a plane. There was something else but I'm in a hurry to get to school so I can't look it all up. Those kind of comments just solidify my opinion of her. While it may have been her typical "hyperbole", some people up her are hypersensitive to offending Muslims after recent times. They have the right to bitch and moan as much as she does.That student was being a B!tch and was asking stupid questions trying to make Anne mad and finally she was being sarcastic and said take a camel. big deal.

Koolaid
04-09-2010, 04:48 PM
That student was being a B!tch and was asking stupid questions trying to make Anne mad and finally she was being sarcastic and said take a camel. big deal.

Its not a big deal. We have over sensitive people up here too.

There's just something about her I don't like. I can't exactly place it, but I can't stand listening to her. It's not even what she's saying, but how she delivers it. I'm more likely to take the line of "mind your own country's business" with Coulter. She was far too worried about us not following the US into war with Iraq. Thankfully the conservative government had enough foresight to stay out of that one.


And to Terry, if you want to consider 240 troops taking part in peacekeeping during 1973 being involved in the in Vietnam war, go ahead. I still don't think that counts as being involved, but hey if we had of only sent one troop to peace keep for one day I guess you'd have an argument.

Cody Covey
04-09-2010, 04:57 PM
funny how America is always the first country other countries call when they need help but if America needs help we get none. . .

Coulter is great shes sarcastic and says exactly whats on her mind. I love the delivery