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road kill
04-12-2010, 08:56 PM
Unbelievable!!!



http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//100412/480/urn_publicid_ap_org52d493edeb0243ef84cbfc87f58f4b6 a/

M&K's Retrievers
04-12-2010, 09:28 PM
I guess that's all he's comfortable with. Sad :(

subroc
04-12-2010, 09:47 PM
I expect the “he is just showing respect” crowd will chime in any minute. But, at some level, he must believe he is a lesser man to all these world leaders. A shame really. For many years the world looked up to the President of the United States. At some level, he must also believe he is a lesser man than those Presidents that came before as well.

YardleyLabs
04-12-2010, 10:11 PM
I expect the “he is just showing respect” crowd will chime in any minute. But, at some level, he must believe he is a lesser man to all these world leaders. A shame really. For many years the world looked up to the President of the United States. At some level, he must also believe he is a lesser man than those Presidents that came before as well.
You mean they looked up to Eisenhower when he bowed, to Nixon when he bowed, and to Bush when he bowed? Or are you discussing some other mythical President?

M&K's Retrievers
04-12-2010, 11:25 PM
You mean they looked up to Eisenhower when he bowed, to Nixon when he bowed, and to Bush when he bowed? Or are you discussing some other mythical President?

Who did they bow to? As I recall, Ike refused to even see the German Commander who was surrendering at the end of WW11 in Europe. Not quite the same thing but I imagine obama would share a dobbie with him rather than shun him.

Henry V
04-12-2010, 11:33 PM
As long as you all are at it, could someone here please bring up something about all the "Czars" illegally appointed by President Obama. I have not seen this criticism for a while and would enjoy the entertainment.;)

M&K's Retrievers
04-12-2010, 11:51 PM
He bows to everyone but to the people he serves. What a nimrod.

BonMallari
04-13-2010, 12:07 AM
I am not defending BHO, but I hope he never visits the Philippines because there is an old custom when in the presence of someone who is your elder especially a matronly type like a grandmother, you place the back of their hand on your forehead and bow as a sign of respect (Pagmamano in Tagalog)...as kids if we didn't bow to my grandmother after dinner there was he!! to pay later

road kill
04-13-2010, 07:11 AM
You mean they looked up to Eisenhower when he bowed, to Nixon when he bowed, and to Bush when he bowed? Or are you discussing some other mythical President?


Once again.......Heeeee staaarrrrtteeedddd iiiittttt!!!!!:rolleyes:

Remember when they were telling us, "oh, he is not bowing......the other guy is shorter??"
Now he is doing it because Eisenhower did it??:cool:






rk

dnf777
04-13-2010, 07:41 AM
YYYYYyyyyyaaaawwwwnnnnnnnn......

YardleyLabs
04-13-2010, 07:47 AM
YYYYYyyyyyaaaawwwwnnnnnnnn......
Exactly


Once again.......Heeeee staaarrrrtteeedddd iiiittttt!!!!!:rolleyes:

Remember when they were telling us, "oh, he is not bowing......the other guy is shorter??"
Now he is doing it because Eisenhower did it??:cool:

rk
The real question is not who did it first, it is why does it seem to matter to you now?

ducknwork
04-13-2010, 07:47 AM
Oh wow. I just noticed this thread. I guess there are more important things to be concerned with...

road kill
04-13-2010, 08:00 AM
The real question is not who did it first, it is why does it seem to matter to you now?

No....the REAL question is does he BOW because the other man is shorter or because Eisenhower and Nixon did it?

I mean YOU have used both excuses, which one is correct??

Keepin' it REAL!!:D



rk

road kill
04-13-2010, 08:01 AM
YYYYYyyyyyaaaawwwwnnnnnnnn......

Am I keepin' you up??;)



rk

david gibson
04-13-2010, 08:03 AM
if both bowed at the same time it would be one thing, but him doing the first and only bowing is a problem

no different than dogs sniffing each others a$$e$....

as far as other presidents bowing, its the old "when in Rome" protocol:
"In some cultures people kiss on the cheeks, in some they shake hands, in some they bow. All of which have some long anthropological explanation that isn't worth going into. The point being that it isn't a sign of weakness when a world leader understands that when in a different country, it is proper to use their customs. Though next time it might be nice if Obama could at least get the gesture right."

this event was in Wash. DC, therefore, no bowing, stand tall, chest up, shake the short POS's hand and move on.

but that takes a man with backbone and dignity. clearly something this POS who wont even acknowledge his 50% anglo heritage lacks.

road kill
04-13-2010, 08:09 AM
if both bowed at the same time it would be one thing, but him doing the first and only bowing is a problem

no different than dogs sniffing each others a$$e$....

Do you prefer the USA being the "sniffer" or the "sniffee??"




rk

david gibson
04-13-2010, 08:15 AM
Do you prefer the USA being the "sniffer" or the "sniffee??"
rk

my point exactly, i edited my post as you were posting yours. when you visit their country you bow, when they come here you dont. its really simple.

dnf777
04-13-2010, 08:41 AM
Am I keepin' you up??;)



rk

Nah, actually caught some good zees last night. Wifey was on call, so her pager kept nagging though.

dnf777
04-13-2010, 08:49 AM
if both bowed at the same time it would be one thing, but him doing the first and only bowing is a problem
.


If they both bowed at the same time, their heads would bump and make a sound like a hollow coconut. Then one would bolt upright and say, "whyyy I ougta... and form a "v" with his index and middle finger, thrusting it towards the eyes of the other......to which that person would place an erect hand vertically along the bridge of his nose to thwart the aforementioned gesture, with the reply, "nyuk nyuk nyuk"

Depending on the overall mood of the first bower and the bowee, or co-bowers as the case may be, a vigorous slap to the face or pulling of a lock of hair would then be the appropriate diplomatic etiquette response.

By this time, typically a third, seemingly neutral member of a three party delegation will step in and try to restore peaceful discourse, often with the offering of a surprisingly light and fluffy merangue pie of assorted flavors.

I hope this clears up any questions regarding the proper etiquette of the simultaneous bow.

david gibson
04-13-2010, 08:57 AM
If they both bowed at the same time, their heads would bump and make a sound like a hollow coconut. Then one would bolt upright and say, "whyyy I ougta... and form a "v" with his index and middle finger, thrusting it towards the eyes of the other......to which that person would place an erect hand vertically along the bridge of his nose to thwart the aforementioned gesture, with the reply, "nyuk nyuk nyuk"

Depending on the overall mood of the first bower and the bowee, or co-bowers as the case may be, a vigorous slap to the face or pulling of a lock of hair would then be the appropriate diplomatic etiquette response.

By this time, typically a third, seemingly neutral member of a three party delegation will step in and try to restore peaceful discourse, often with the offering of a surprisingly light and fluffy merangue pie of assorted flavors.

I hope this clears up any questions regarding the proper etiquette of the simultaneous bow.

it does. it answers my question of whether you have any substance behind you to support why this president bows to foreign leaders on our soil.

dnf777
04-13-2010, 09:23 AM
it does. it answers my question of whether you have any substance behind you to support why this president bows to foreign leaders on our soil.

It also shows how desparate some are to have a stimulating, if not humorous discussion, rather than more droning and whining about which direction the president wipes and the exact femoro-pelvic angle of the hypotenuse of his bows.

Anyone have the "Lighten' up, Francis!!" cartoon for David??

david gibson
04-13-2010, 09:40 AM
It also shows how desparate some are to have a stimulating, if not humorous discussion, rather than more droning and whining about which direction the president wipes and the exact femoro-pelvic angle of the hypotenuse of his bows.

Anyone have the "Lighten' up, Francis!!" cartoon for David??

still got nothing i see... ;-)

luvmylabs23139
04-13-2010, 09:42 AM
BUmface is an idiot!!!!! why should he kiss China's ass??? Oh yeah,, he needs their money to pay for his socialism!!!!
HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! HE IS A TRAITOR!!!! HE NEEDS TO GO!!!!
BUMMA is a traitor to this country, charge him with TREASON now!!!!!

luvmylabs23139
04-13-2010, 09:44 AM
It also shows how desparate some are to have a stimulating, if not humorous discussion, rather than more droning and whining about which direction the president wipes and the exact femoro-pelvic angle of the hypotenuse of his bows.

Anyone have the "Lighten' up, Francis!!" cartoon for David??


HE is a TREASONIST TRAITOR!!!!!!!!

huntinman
04-13-2010, 10:23 AM
At some level, he must also believe he is a lesser man than those Presidents that came before as well.

If he believes that, then for the first time in my adult life...I wholeheartedly agree with him.

dnf777
04-13-2010, 10:28 AM
you guys make me laugh. when you're done playing, make sure you pick up your toys and put them away.

oh, and once again...

LIGHTEN' UP FRANCES!!!

ducknwork
04-13-2010, 11:37 AM
By this time, typically a third, seemingly neutral member of a three party delegation will step in and try to restore peaceful discourse, often with the offering of a surprisingly light and fluffy merangue pie of assorted flavors.

What flavor meringue pies do they have in Switzerland?:confused:

Roger Perry
04-13-2010, 11:48 AM
if both bowed at the same time it would be one thing, but him doing the first and only bowing is a problem

no different than dogs sniffing each others a$$e$....

as far as other presidents bowing, its the old "when in Rome" protocol:
"In some cultures people kiss on the cheeks, in some they shake hands, in some they bow. All of which have some long anthropological explanation that isn't worth going into. The point being that it isn't a sign of weakness when a world leader understands that when in a different country, it is proper to use their customs. Though next time it might be nice if Obama could at least get the gesture right."

this event was in Wash. DC, therefore, no bowing, stand tall, chest up, shake the short POS's hand and move on.

but that takes a man with backbone and dignity. clearly something this POS who wont even acknowledge his 50% anglo heritage lacks.

And some presidents come out out of the closet. I would prefer a president to bow than to kiss another man on the lips. Just what does that symbolize?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/293457625_10b568f7c7.jpg

Saudi Oil George bush kissing Saudi prince

ducknwork
04-13-2010, 12:05 PM
That's what it takes to get you to come out of hiding?:D

Seriously, we haven't heard from you in months and as soon as someone mentions two guys kissing, WHAM! there's good ol' Rog!


(I was going to put that winking smiley after the last sentence, but I didn't want to lead you on...):p

Roger Perry
04-13-2010, 12:22 PM
That's what it takes to get you to come out of hiding?:D

Seriously, we haven't heard from you in months and as soon as someone mentions two guys kissing, WHAM! there's good ol' Rog!


(I was going to put that winking smiley after the last sentence, but I didn't want to lead you on...):p

I just was commenting on it being more respectful for a president to bow to another country's leader than to french kiss one. Seeing two men kiss turns my stomache.

Any more snide comments or inferences about me being gay (which I assure you I am not) could lead to a law suit for the poster and RTF for defamation of character.

huntinman
04-13-2010, 01:39 PM
Any more snide comments or inferences about me being gay (which I assure you I am not) could lead to a law suit for the poster and RTF for defamation of character.

Not there's anything wrong with that...
Jerry Seinfeld

dnf777
04-13-2010, 01:45 PM
Relax Roger. They're in the midst of an identity crisis. They have preachers trading drugs for gay sex, senators toe-tapping for the same in public restrooms, and congressmen molesting pages. At least dems fool around with females when they err in their ways! Oh, and I forgot the president slipping tongue into a hairy beard and strolling hand in hand through the garden! YUCK!

Then to attack BHO for extending courtesy......THAT is hypocrisy at it's finest!

Blackstone
04-13-2010, 01:47 PM
It seems like we are concerned with the most insignificant things when it comes to this President.

BonMallari
04-13-2010, 01:55 PM
I always though snide comments were the norm here on POTUS, without em people might start thinking we were seriously discussing important political matters...

Blackstone
04-13-2010, 01:57 PM
I always though snide comments were the norm here on POTUS, without em people might start thinking we were seriously discussing important political matters...

You make a good point! :)

ducknwork
04-13-2010, 03:37 PM
I always though snide comments were the norm here on POTUS, without em people might start thinking we were seriously discussing important political matters...

Would it be defamation of character if I accused him of having the exact same amount of sense of humor as a nazi prison guard?

I would personally find it humorous to see how much money one could waste in lawyer fees by truly taking offense to something like that.


Actually, on second thought, I think I will go call a lawyer on captainjack. He called me a liberal earlier. Now THAT is an insult!

ducknwork
04-13-2010, 03:41 PM
Hey Roger--

Would you take offense to me calling you a homo



























phobe?:cool:

BonMallari
04-13-2010, 03:47 PM
Would it be defamation of character if I accused him of having the exact same amount of sense of humor as a nazi prison guard?

I would personally find it humorous to see how much money one could waste in lawyer fees by truly taking offense to something like that.


Actually, on second thought, I think I will go call a lawyer on captainjack. He called me a liberal earlier. Now THAT is an insult!

it could have been worse...He could have called you a Flaming Liberal Homo



phobe.....:razz::razz:

sinner
04-13-2010, 04:11 PM
In international sporting events team members exchange gifts. Some cultures use bowing as a sign of respect and offering honest play and friendship.
This whole discussion falls in the category of WHO CARES?

menmon
04-13-2010, 05:52 PM
No....the REAL question is does he BOW because the other man is shorter or because Eisenhower and Nixon did it?

I mean YOU have used both excuses, which one is correct??

Keepin' it REAL!!:D



rk

I have been reading through this and it is the dumbest thing I've seen yet on here. Who give a rats a@s! if he bows are not. Just say it..you don't like him, everything he does is wrong....end of story!

road kill
04-13-2010, 05:57 PM
I have been reading through this and it is the dumbest thing I've seen yet on here. Who give a rats a@s! if he bows are not. Just say it..you don't like him, everything he does is wrong....end of story!
How ironic as I feel you are the dumbest thing on here!!:D


BTW---This topic was started some time ago at his first bow, and the excuse was that the other man was shorter.
Now the guy is the same height.

So that lame excuse no longer holds water, so the excuse now is that Eisenhower/Nixon/Bush did it.

Now you know the REST of the story.

BTW---If you don't like my threads and posts.....feel free not to respond!!:razz:



rk

sinner
04-13-2010, 11:33 PM
Well Start New One On How Bad The President's Form Was With The First Pitch To Start The Baseball Season. Lush Rimbaugh Made A Big Deal Out Of It!
It Would Fit Right In With This Stuff.

Hew
04-14-2010, 03:56 AM
I just was commenting on it being more respectful for a president to bow to another country's leader than to french kiss one. Seeing two men kiss turns my stomache.

Any more snide comments or inferences about me being gay (which I assure you I am not) could lead to a law suit for the poster and RTF for defamation of character.
That is simultaneously one of the funniest and saddest things I've ever read on the internets.

Chris Atkinson
04-14-2010, 09:20 AM
I don't read this POTUS spot, and I trust that folks realize that they need to use this spot right or get banned. A buddy emailed me and let me know that a lawsuit threat was issued here. As you all can surely understand, the resource cannot afford to have that.

217-454-0361
Chris Atkinson cellphone.

Roger, it was great to meet you on Saturday at the hunt test. I was very glad to see that you took time out of your workday to stop by and say "Hello".

It was funny because the last time I was down, I asked Ginny Attebury if she knew you, and asked folks if we might see you. So it was great that you stopped by this time.

Will you please phone me at your earliest convenience?

Thanks! Chris

david gibson
04-14-2010, 09:55 AM
if roger is serious about that comment then he seriously needs to be taken out behind the woodshed. but not by me, i mean, he likes to post pics of men kissing and stuff......that kinda creeps me out...

road kill
04-14-2010, 10:05 AM
I don't read this POTUS spot, and I trust that folks realize that they need to use this spot right or get banned. A buddy emailed me and let me know that a lawsuit threat was issued here. As you all can surely understand, the resource cannot afford to have that.

217-454-0361
Chris Atkinson cellphone.

Roger, it was great to meet you on Saturday at the hunt test. I was very glad to see that you took time out of your workday to stop by and say "Hello".

It was funny because the last time I was down, I asked Ginny Attebury if she knew you, and asked folks if we might see you. So it was great that you stopped by this time.

Will you please phone me at your earliest convenience?

Thanks! Chris

Although Roger has a point, and should not be insulted in that manner, I think a review of some of his posts may shed a slightly different light on the provocation.

I have had exchanges with RP and have talked via pm.
He is just a guy like the rest of us.
But once it got too personal (both ways) I stopped engaging with him.
Lots of things get posted here that would not get said in person.
I try to only post things that I would say in person.
Many things are posted towards me that absolutely would not get said to my face.

Oddly one of my favorite posters here is as diametrically opposed to me politically as could be.
We still look forward to sharing a Rocky Patel and some JD at a test someday.

Life is short, try to enjoy!!

Just my $.02.



rk

david gibson
04-14-2010, 10:42 AM
RK: Roger is extremely out of line here. look at what he said:

"And some presidents come out out of the closet. I would prefer a president to bow than to kiss another man on the lips. Just what does that symbolize?"

oh, well - he isn't insinuating GWB is gay is he? perhaps W should threaten RP with a lawsuit. it was clear W was trying to "do as the romans do" with a peck on the cheek, his timing was wrong as the sultan turned his head. so what.

whats the difference? this is very hypocritical, and for him to think Ducknwork was seriously saying he is gay and threaten a lawsuit is a joke. ducknwork was right on target with an internet zinger. talk about "lighten up francis"

oops.now he might think i called him "francis" thinking he is a girly man. guess i better call a lawyer right now and be prepared.... (there is no emoticon big enough to symbolize my eyes rolling totally out of my skull over this)

dnf777
04-14-2010, 10:46 AM
RK: Roger is extremely out of line here. look at what he said:

"And some presidents come out out of the closet. I would prefer a president to bow than to kiss another man on the lips. Just what does that symbolize?"

oh, well - he isn't insinuating GWB is gay is he? perhaps W should threaten RP with a lawsuit. it was clear W was trying to "do as the romans do" with a peck on the cheek, his timing was wrong as the sultan turned his head. so what.

whats the difference? this is very hypocritical, and for him to think Ducknwork was seriously saying he is gay and threaten a lawsuit is a joke. ducknwork was right on target with an internet zinger. talk about "lighten up francis"

oops.now he might think i called him "francis" thinking he is a girly man. guess i better call a lawyer right now and be prepared.... (there is no emoticon big enough to symbolize my eyes rolling totally out of my skull over this)

Let it go. He got sent to the principals office already.

Chris Atkinson
04-14-2010, 10:56 AM
This is ridiculous.

Please treat RTF right. David, knock it off.

Thanks, Chris

badbullgator
04-14-2010, 11:09 AM
I just was commenting on it being more respectful for a president to bow to another country's leader than to french kiss one. Seeing two men kiss turns my stomache.

Any more snide comments or inferences about me being gay (which I assure you I am not) could lead to a law suit for the poster and RTF for defamation of character.



bawhahahahhahahahhahaa Roger, not a queen but sure a drama queen:p

Eric Johnson
04-14-2010, 11:16 AM
Chris-

I'm going to post this in the open so that folks will realize just how serious the words "law suit" are.

For the many years I moderated Compuserve forums, the mere mention of law suit would mean that the person was locked out of the forum until the intention could be assessed. If the intent was serious or the person wouldn't deny it, they were locked out permanently. The reason for this is that once the spectre of "law suit" is raised, the only correct way for communications to take place are through attorneys. Any direct communication could put one party or the other at significant risk.

Further, the thread would be locked and moved to an archive area as evidence.

Chris is being very understanding when he merely says, "Cut it out."

Eric

Chris Atkinson
04-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Chris-

I'm going to post this in the open so that folks will realize just how serious the words "law suit" are.

For the many years I moderated Compuserve forums, the mere mention of law suit would mean that the person was locked out of the forum until the intention could be assessed. If the intent was serious or the person wouldn't deny it, they were locked out permanently. The reason for this is that once the spectre of "law suit" is raised, the only correct way for communications to take place are through attorneys. Any direct communication could put one party or the other at significant risk.

Further, the thread would be locked and moved to an archive area as evidence.

Chris is being very understanding when he merely says, "Cut it out."

Eric

Thanks Eric,

I see this the same way you do. Some of the actions you mention above have already been taken.

Chris

david gibson
04-14-2010, 11:52 AM
i am in total disbelief.

david gibson
04-14-2010, 12:57 PM
total disbelief to utter disbelief. for a statement obviously made in jest, its all this? i understand where chris stands and why, but it seems to me to be far too harsh and perhaps misdirected. if the skin is that thin in here then i am out of POTUS.

vaya con dios ducknwork

dnf777
04-14-2010, 01:05 PM
Duck,
Gonna miss ya. It was fun when we agreed, even more fun when we disagreed!

David,
Don't punch out. We just need to add the "L" word to the "n" word, and the "r" word.....never to be uttered! Some lines just shouldn't be crossed, and folks have to protect themselves. Sad, but understandable.

freefall319
04-14-2010, 02:01 PM
if the skin is that thin in here then i am out of POTUS.

vaya con dios ducknwork

No kidding........Hope to see you around ducknwork.:cool:

M&K's Retrievers
04-14-2010, 02:23 PM
Damn it! Been stuck in the house playing nurse maid for 2 months. Finally get out for a couple of hours and miss all the fireworks.:-P

ducknwork
04-14-2010, 02:44 PM
Okay, sooooo...not the best time for a practical joke...Sorry Chris.

Lesson learned. But it's nice to know you guys care!


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road kill
04-14-2010, 05:26 PM
Well, I ain't leavin', it's just gettin' gooooood!!!!:D



rk

Steve Hester
04-15-2010, 11:02 PM
bawhahahahhahahahhahaa Roger, not a queen but sure a drama queen:p


:razz::razz::razz:

You made me spit my coke all over my screen.