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M&K's Retrievers
04-14-2010, 01:47 PM
Could it be that obama is biting the hand that feeds him? Saturday he bugs out on the White House Press Corp. Yesterday he has the press leave the Nuclear Security Summit after a brief opening statement. He hasn't had a scripted press conference in months. Then there is always Press Secretary Gibbs and his condesending attitude towards everyone. Oh, can't forget his relationship with Fox.

huntinman
04-14-2010, 01:52 PM
The press has their collective head so far up his rear that they don't even get the fact that he has no care in the world about what they want. He shuts them out and they still kiss his feet. Sickening...

BonMallari
04-14-2010, 02:16 PM
even though they wont admit it, both Fox and CNN are the MAINSTREAM media now, in the 24/7 news cycle when people want news they turn to one of these two outlets..the only thing that people watch the local news cast is for weather and maybe morning traffic..

M&K's Retrievers
04-21-2010, 09:19 AM
Yesterday, the media and protesters were forced to leave Lafayette Park after Capital police closed the park. They were protesting "don't ask, don't tell". As far as I know, no explaination for the closure was given. Apparently the press was eventually allowed to return. This is another attempt by obama's administration trying to control the media. So much for transparency.

Franco
04-21-2010, 11:31 AM
even though they wont admit it, both Fox and CNN are the MAINSTREAM media now, in the 24/7 news cycle when people want news they turn to one of these two outlets..the only thing that people watch the local news cast is for weather and maybe morning traffic..

Fox News and CNN's ratings are still a drop in the bucket compared to NBC, CBS and ABC's news broadcast in early evening(6:30pm Eastern).

Remember that over one-third of the country does not have cable or satellite.

Though Fox News still has better ratings than CNN, the trend in ratings over the last 12 months shows CNN gaining on Fox News in the key adults25-54 demographic.

dnf777
04-21-2010, 12:32 PM
Though Fox News still has better ratings than CNN, the trend in ratings over the last 12 months shows CNN gaining on Fox News in the key adults25-54 demographic.

Isn't that about the time Glen Beck moved from CNN to Fox? Interesting.

Franco
04-21-2010, 12:40 PM
Isn't that about the time Glen Beck moved from CNN to Fox? Interesting.

It is hard to imagine but, Glen Beck's ratings are second best on Fox News. Only O'Rielly has better ratings while Hannity's ratings are at an all time low. As much as I dislike Rachael Maddow's show, it has shown the most growth in all cable news.

dnf777
04-21-2010, 12:45 PM
It is hard to imagine but, Glen Beck's ratings are second best on Fox News. Only O'Rielly has better ratings while Hannity's ratings are at an all time low.

I'm not a Hannity biographer, but it would seem his "charities" have landed him in disfavor amongst many of his fans.

I'm surprised at the network vs. cable news stats you posted. I had no idea CNN/fox was out-rated by the networks. I catch the mornining locals for weather and the latest Big Ben news, and that's it.

(BTW, what a BUM! He'll be bummin' drinks in bars in a few years. A family friend who owns a nice roadhouse in the norther Pittsburgh area says Ben has been a 'persona non gratis' for over a year. He seems to think his mere presence is enough payment for him and his entourage, and apparently he drives away more patrons than he attracts)

huntinman
04-21-2010, 12:54 PM
I believe that Hannity's rating started going down soon after he lost Colmes. That was a much better show than what he now has. His current show is so chopped up in little pieces it's hard to pay attention. I am a fan and have quit watching. He needs to either get Colmes back or another lib and go back to the old format...

Franco
04-21-2010, 12:54 PM
I'm not a Hannity biographer, but it would seem his "charities" have landed him in disfavor amongst many of his fans.

I'm surprised at the network vs. cable news stats you posted. I had no idea CNN/fox was out-rated by the networks. I catch the mornining locals for weather and the latest Big Ben news, and that's it.

(BTW, what a BUM! He'll be bummin' drinks in bars in a few years. A family friend who owns a nice roadhouse in the norther Pittsburgh area says Ben has been a 'persona non gratis' for over a year. He seems to think his mere presence is enough payment for him and his entourage, and apparently he drives away more patrons than he attracts)

I think Hannity's biggest problem is with credibility. He will air anything if it furthers his agenda.

Again, remember that over one-third of the polulation does not subscribe to cable or satellite, so they have to watch the major networks. I was visiting my dying uncle over the weekend. He was yelling at the Hospice nurse because she was watching CNN. He wanted to watch CBS's news broadcast. He's an old Korean War vet and only has cable so that the grand kids will visit! He hates cable news, thinks none of them can be trusted.

I understand the Steelers have tried to work a trade for Big Ben with all the teams holding top 10 picks. I think the Rooney's will give him another chance and lick thier wounds for the 6 game suspension. Heck, Dreaux Brees won't even drink a beer, he has soda with his crawfish! Down here, not drinking beer with boiled crawfish is sacraligious!

Franco
04-21-2010, 01:13 PM
I believe that Hannity's rating started going down soon after he lost Colmes. That was a much better show than what he now has. His current show is so chopped up in little pieces it's hard to pay attention. I am a fan and have quit watching. He needs to either get Colmes back or another lib and go back to the old format...

I agree that the old format was better TV. Sean may be suffering from over-exposure. Too many TV shows and radio affliates, how much Hannity can one person take!

Did he ever address his airing of the edited ACORN tapes he showed? The California AG, after watching all the footage had nothing to prosecute ACRORN on. Seems like the guys that shot the tape, edited it to tell the story they wanted told. Don't get me wrong, I hate ACORN but, false reporting is false reporting.

dnf777
04-21-2010, 01:57 PM
I'm really ticked about Ben. What a total moron! Morality aside, he could have had his "bodyguards" round up a stable of just about any 10 girls he wanted....but he had to take advantage of a girl too drunk to know her name in a bathroom with guards posted to keep her friends out! And if those two off-duty police officers knew what was going on, and kept her friends away as reported, they are a disgrace to public service.

And Pittsburgh is a town where its football heroes are embraced for life. He had a chance at life-long prosperity and community respect, not to mention $102 million, and has thrown it all away. I would be surprised if he's still a Steeler by the time his suspension is up. I think the draft will tell.

M&K's Retrievers
04-21-2010, 07:02 PM
I agree that the old format was better TV. Sean may be suffering from over-exposure. Too many TV shows and radio affliates, how much Hannity can one person take!

Did he ever address his airing of the edited ACORN tapes he showed? The California AG, after watching all the footage had nothing to prosecute ACRORN on. Seems like the guys that shot the tape, edited it to tell the story they wanted told. Don't get me wrong, I hate ACORN but, false reporting is false reporting.

It doesn't take a lot of Hannity to be too much of Hannity but the same can be said for obama.

M&K's Retrievers
05-13-2010, 11:20 AM
obama continues to dump on the press. obama has not had a press conference since last July. The "interview" conducted with SCOTUS nominee was conducted by White House personnel. She has not been made available to the media. obama scorns 24/7 coverage and instant availability of information. The Press Secretary releases announcements on Twitter. Apparently, if obama can't control it's content, he wants no part of it.

dnf777
05-13-2010, 11:25 AM
Apparently, if obama can't control it's content, he wants no part of it.

yeah, those darn presidents tend to be control freaks, don't they? :cool:

Gerry Clinchy
05-13-2010, 11:50 AM
obama has not had a press conference since last July.

10 mos. does seem a long time not to have a press conference ... especially when the press has been mostly supportive of him as a candidate and a POTUS

M&K's Retrievers
05-13-2010, 12:47 PM
yeah, those darn presidents tend to be control freaks, don't they? :cool:

Dave, not like this. I don't think this is a good trend.

Mike

ducknwork
05-14-2010, 11:27 AM
10 mos. does seem a long time not to have a press conference ... especially when the press has been mostly supportive of him as a candidate and a POTUS

I heard the teleprompter is in the repair shop. The broken parts must be on backorder or something...:confused:

Blackstone
05-14-2010, 12:18 PM
Weren't some of you guy complaining earlier that he was on TV too much? Now that he hasn't been on TV in a while, that's a problem too. I guess he can't win.

YardleyLabs
05-14-2010, 12:39 PM
Actually, notwithstanding the Fox News report, his last formal white house press conference, albeit a surprise appearance, was on February 10 (See http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Surprise-Obama-Press-Conference-Gives-Clue-on-Health-Care-Reform-2484). There is an interesting story in the Huffington Post about the pattern of Obama's appearances (see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/will-obama-hold-another-p_b_576546.html). It notes that while he has held relatively few formal press conferences, he has conducted an unprecedented number of interviews and town meetings (no teleprompter present), not to mention his live broadcast meetings with Congressional Republicans on health care.

M&K's Retrievers
05-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Weren't some of you guy complaining earlier that he was on TV too much? Now that he hasn't been on TV in a while, that's a problem too. I guess he can't win.

He is on TV too much. Mainly for photo ops and fund raisers. It's always on his terms while hiding behind his trusty teleprompter. Presidents need to be held accountable for their actions by facing up to a non-scripted monthly press conference where follow-up questions are allowed. Questions and those doing the asking should not be predetermined. Leader of the free world, yes. Kings, no.

Blackstone
05-14-2010, 03:28 PM
He is on TV too much. Mainly for photo ops and fund raisers. It's always on his terms while hiding behind his trusty teleprompter. Presidents need to be held accountable for their actions by facing up to a non-scripted monthly press conference where follow-up questions are allowed. Questions and those doing the asking should not be predetermined. Leader of the free world, yes. Kings, no.

Whose terms would you expect the President to give news conferences on?
And, I donít understand what the big deal is over the use of a teleprompter. Most Presidents have either used teleprompters, printouts, or note cards for speeches. Obviously, his preference is a teleprompter. I would rather him use a teleprompter than stumble over his words like some of our past Presidents.

huntinman
05-14-2010, 03:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Check out your man when his telepromter decides not to participate.

Blackstone
05-14-2010, 03:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Check out your man when his telepromter decides not to participate.

And, I guess if you were reading something, and suddenly all the words were gone, it wouldnít throw you off? It has happened to me during a speech, and all I could do was try to adlib. I donít know what it sounded like, but Iím sure it wasnít pretty.

subroc
05-14-2010, 04:45 PM
Could it be that obama is biting the hand that feeds him? Saturday he bugs out on the White House Press Corp. Yesterday he has the press leave the Nuclear Security Summit after a brief opening statement. He hasn't had a scripted press conference in months. Then there is always Press Secretary Gibbs and his condesending attitude towards everyone. Oh, can't forget his relationship with Fox.


there is "nothing" obama could do wrong to make the MSM turn on him. It is a reflex action to defend him.

M&K's Retrievers
05-14-2010, 06:47 PM
Whose terms would you expect the President to give news conferences on?


I think the press conferences should not be scripted. Questions should not be submitted and the correspondent asking the question determined beforehand. It's bad enough the the President can pick who asks the question but I don't guess there is a better way. And by all means followup questions should be allowed especially when it is obvious the POTUS is dancing around the question.

Perhaps it would be better if members of Congress were allowed to have an open question and answer session monthly with the POTUS. The POTUS is not a king. He is an employee and should act accordingly.

menmon
05-17-2010, 03:15 PM
There is a lot happening right now and the answers are mixed and mostly unfounded. The financial reform bill is changing every minute; the spill in the gulf has many unanswered questions.

As opposed to letting the press have a field day with him just to make political hay, I think the fact that he is not front and center now is positive for him politically and for me that doesn't have to listen to the bashing except on this forum.

depittydawg
05-17-2010, 03:19 PM
I think the press conferences should not be scripted. Questions should not be submitted and the correspondent asking the question determined beforehand. It's bad enough the the President can pick who asks the question but I don't guess there is a better way. And by all means followup questions should be allowed especially when it is obvious the POTUS is dancing around the question.

Perhaps it would be better if members of Congress were allowed to have an open question and answer session monthly with the POTUS. The POTUS is not a king. He is an employee and should act accordingly.

Have you ever seen how the British do this? Its quite amazing. They shout down, boo, cheer, otherwise show little respect for the PM when he is before Parliament. I agree with you. American's need to stop treating their president like a king, or worse yet, like the Pope or something.

ducknwork
05-17-2010, 03:31 PM
Have you ever seen how the British do this? Its quite amazing. They shout down, boo, cheer, otherwise show little respect for the PM when he is before Parliament. I agree with you. American's need to stop treating their president like a king, or worse yet, like the Pope or something.

Ask Joe Wilson how that worked out for him...

depittydawg
05-17-2010, 09:22 PM
Ask Joe Wilson how that worked out for him...

Say it ain't so Joe... Who's Joe Wilson?

ducknwork
05-18-2010, 06:24 AM
'You Lie!'


Ring a bell now? If not, google his name.

huntinman
05-18-2010, 08:12 AM
And, I guess if you were reading something, and suddenly all the words were gone, it wouldnít throw you off? It has happened to me during a speech, and all I could do was try to adlib. I donít know what it sounded like, but Iím sure it wasnít pretty.

Maybe...but I would still know the difference in a breathalyzer and an inhalator. And instead of trying miserably to BS my way through it, I would acknowledge that the telepromter quit. He stood there like a babbling idiot (not the only time). The crowd was laughing at him and he tells them to be quiet because he can't hear himself! This is the most intelligent politician to ever grace us with his presense?

YardleyLabs
05-18-2010, 09:36 AM
Maybe...but I would still know the difference in a breathalyzer and an inhalator. And instead of trying miserably to BS my way through it, I would acknowledge that the telepromter quit. He stood there like a babbling idiot (not the only time). The crowd was laughing at him and he tells them to be quiet because he can't hear himself! This is the most intelligent politician to ever grace us with his presense?
Bill, I actually watched that entire town meeting as it was happening. The teleprompter didn't "go out". He doesn't use one during his town meetings any more than he used one during the health care "summit" with Congressional Republicans. The Bristol meeting was one of several conducted on a daily basis at the height of the debate. Many claimed, falsely, that the audiences for these meetings were stacked with Obama supporters. That was far from true and the Bristol meeting was good evidence of that. There was a huge cadre of very vocal opponents seeking to shout Obama down continuously. Many of these protesters had been brought by Americans for Prosperity. One news report at the time said:

"Health care is an important issue to the people of Bristol. So is the economic recession, which has hit this already disadvantaged area especially hard. These issues motivated dozens of protesters to picket the venue. They made a passionate, well-organized and vocal crowd. They were also angry.

"If you support this bill you're a communist! You're a communist and you don't love America!" one man shouted....Some carried homemade signs that called for the President's deportation; others, for his salvation. But most prominent were the signs distributed by the Americans for Prosperity Foundation. Declaring that "Socialism isn't Cool."


Obama actually handled himself pretty well. And, for what little it may be worth, as one who has been using asthma medication regularly for the last thirty years, I still often say that I need to use my "breathalyzer".

M&K's Retrievers
05-18-2010, 10:15 AM
Yesterday obama signed the Press Freedom Act and then promptly refused to answer any questions. This was after he refused to take any questions after his tirade Friday about the oil spill. I really think he is afraid of slipping up like he did with the professor and the cop. If he can't control the questions, he's not going to play. Having said that I can't help but wonder why he hasn't had a press conference since July. He controls that.

depittydawg
05-18-2010, 11:29 AM
Yesterday obama signed the Press Freedom Act and then promptly refused to answer any questions. This was after he refused to take any questions after his tirade Friday about the oil spill. I really think he is afraid of slipping up like he did with the professor and the cop. If he can't control the questions, he's not going to play. Having said that I can't help but wonder why he hasn't had a press conference since July. He controls that.

I must admit, I haven't been tracking Obama much since he failed so miserably on the Health Care Reform, Foreign policy, and of course the Bail Out mess. IMO, A President should be forthcoming enough to stand up and face the Nation, through the Press, and take the tough questions. Maybe we all got used to Clinton, who loved the Press and never missed an opportunity to get under the lights. Then came Bush, easily the most secretive and guarded President in my lifetime. Now Obama. Wasn't one of his campaign promises to bring back an 'open' White House'.
This guys a disgrace, not in so much as what he has done, but because he has done, in most cases, exactly the opposite as what he said he'd do. If the Republicans can find a candidate with at least half a brain functioning, who isn't a card carrying member of their extremist wing, I'll vote for them next time!

huntinman
05-18-2010, 11:33 AM
Bill, I actually watched that entire town meeting as it was happening. The teleprompter didn't "go out". He doesn't use one during his town meetings any more than he used one during the health care "summit" with Congressional Republicans. The Bristol meeting was one of several conducted on a daily basis at the height of the debate. Many claimed, falsely, that the audiences for these meetings were stacked with Obama supporters. That was far from true and the Bristol meeting was good evidence of that. There was a huge cadre of very vocal opponents seeking to shout Obama down continuously. Many of these protesters had been brought by Americans for Prosperity. One news report at the time said:

"Health care is an important issue to the people of Bristol. So is the economic recession, which has hit this already disadvantaged area especially hard. These issues motivated dozens of protesters to picket the venue. They made a passionate, well-organized and vocal crowd. They were also angry.

"If you support this bill you're a communist! You're a communist and you don't love America!" one man shouted....Some carried homemade signs that called for the President's deportation; others, for his salvation. But most prominent were the signs distributed by the Americans for Prosperity Foundation. Declaring that "Socialism isn't Cool."


Obama actually handled himself pretty well. And, for what little it may be worth, as one who has been using asthma medication regularly for the last thirty years, I still often say that I need to use my "breathalyzer".

During most of the video, all I can hear is Obama stumbling around. Most of what I can hear from the audience sounds like nervous laughter. This was not the only time he had similar problems. If he did not have his telepromter, then this is even worse than I thought.

M&K's Retrievers
05-19-2010, 11:01 PM
And the beat goes on... www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005414-503544.html

M&K's Retrievers
07-14-2010, 01:32 PM
And on...... http://frontpagemag.com/2010/07/14/obamas-media-stall-out/2/