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Uncle Bill
04-23-2010, 03:30 PM
Here's some info on that topic, from a person that apparently has...as well as some 'ferreting out' of that bill, something I'd never heard before, and doubt it will be found in any of the MSP or nightly news.

Just more of the genuflecting to Islamic belief we've come to expect from the Obama leadership. You don't suppose this might rile up the TEA party folks, do you?

But if nothing else, you might learn a new word or two. And if you go to the authors website, you can be further educated in this Muslim terminology.



Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Posted by Ann Barnhardt

Dhimmitude is the muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.

The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient.

So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?"

If you are a Christian and you acquiesce to this, you will be bending your knee to islam, and denying Christ. How many of the early Christians went to horrific deaths rather than offer a mere pinch of incense to a statue of Caesar? Every single one of us has a BIG decision to make right now, in this moment. The choice is to either offer a pinch of incense to islam and Marxism, or take up our cross and follow Christ. I've made my decision. I choose Christ. I choose the Cross.


Several sites you might want to check out to confirm this!!!
Pass this along!
http://libertyandpride.com/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/ (http://libertyandpride.com/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/)
http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/03/24/amish-muslims-exempt-obamacare-mandate?page=4 (http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/03/24/amish-muslims-exempt-obamacare-mandate?page=4)

04-23-2010, 03:34 PM
Where is the text in the bill that suggests this? I would be interested in reading that.

04-23-2010, 03:44 PM
I Still Ain't Sure About This Socialism Medicine

Perspective from an illegal

Hola, amigos. How's tricks? I know it's been a long time since I rapped at ya, but I been chasing my tail like a retard dog these days. I've been working plenty of hours at the warehouse discount place. I even got a little overtime. We were short-staffed because a bunch of people were out sick back in November, so they made me stand up front and look at people's receipts.
I actually wound up getting into it with some guy because he told me I didn't need to check his receipt, and I said bullshit I didn't and that he should get his ass back here, otherwise I would have to take him down. He went for it, so I went for it, and a manager came and had to break us up. I didn't punch the guy or anything, but I wasn't going to let him disrespect me like that, because I was right and he was being a dick.
After that, they decided they didn't want me working with people, so they moved me to the bakery. Now I'm learning how to bake things, mostly chocolate-chip muffins. It's funny because the only thing Jim Anchower can cook is hard-boiled eggs and bacon. I really like using the big mixer. If I could, I'd get one for my house so I could work on some new muffin tricks on my own.
On top of that, I've been making a little extra cash picking up old metal stuff and selling it to scrap places. I drive around town and when I see any old metal railings or used aluminum siding being thrown out, I just pull over, put the seat down, and throw it in the back. Then, when the car is all full, I just take her to the recycling place off the highway.
But I'm starting to think big with it. I'm saving up my money to buy a cart and a trailer hitch. That way, I don't have to go to the recycling place every week. I can just unload it into a pile in the backyard and then take a cartload in once a month. I haven't cleared it with my roommates, but I'm sure they'll be cool with it. It's going to save me a ton on gas, plus having a car full of metal kind of sucks if I want to take a honey out for a night on the town. It hasn't happened yet, but spring is here, so ya never know.
I had to put my new business on hold for a while, though. I was on my way home from work one day when I hit the jackpot. There was a radiator and an old stove, just sitting there on the curb, waiting for someone to come by and take them. All I had to do was load them into the Festiva.
I hoisted the radiator in there no problem, but it took up more room than I expected. I thought about dropping it off at home, then coming back for the stove, but then this dude in an old beat-up pickup truck with the plywood sides passed by real slow. I knew that the moment I pulled away, that guy was gonna swoop in and pick up the stove that was rightfully mine. There was no way I was letting that happen, so I started trying to cram it in the hatchback.
The thing is, you can fit a lot of stuff in a Festiva, but I don't think you're supposed to. I had the stove partway up on the bumper on its side, but it wasn't going in. I figured that all I had to do was get it at least halfway in, though. Then, so long as I drove slow and didn't hit any serious bumpage, I'd be set. That's when the stove slipped and landed right on my foot.
Now, I ain't some kind of pussy when it comes to getting hit with stuff. I've had all sorts of cuts, scrapes, bruises, gouges, you name it. And as a guy that likes to work on his own car, all kinds of stuff lands on my foot and I never said shit. But I ain't gonna lie, that stove hurt like a bitch. Once I got it off my foot, I sat on the curb for a few minutes trying to catch my breath. I got up to walk it off, but I wound up falling back down because a stove just fell on my foot.
After like 10 minutes, I was able to get up and hobble to my car. I left the stove in the street because I didn't really want it that bad anymore. All I wanted was to put my foot up and get some Miller Genuine Draft in me to ease the pain. It took some doing, but I finally managed to pick up a 12-pack, make it home, and sit down to take off my shoes.
Only problem was, my shoe wasn't coming off. My foot swole up so much that I couldn't budge the f...... So I kept it on, thinking the pain would pass and the swelling would go down. But after four hours, it got so bad that I had to go to the emergency room. I practically had to crawl to the Festiva, and I couldn't put a lot of pressure on my gas foot, so I drove 10 miles an hour the whole way there.
I parked right by the entrance, because I could barely walk. I guess I passed out right after I started filling out paperwork, because the next thing I know, I'm in a hospital bed with a doctor cutting my shoe off. Turns out I busted the hell out of my foot, and they had to do some kind of operation on it. I had to get one of those boot casts and a pair of crutches, too.
It really sucks. Sure, I got a doctor's excuse to stay off my feet for a while, but I also got this $4,000 emergency room bill. Plus they towed my car away from the front of the hospital, because I guess only ambulances can park there, so I had to pay a $200 impound fee. I tried to tell them I couldn't walk and that was the only way I could get into the emergency room, but they didn't care. F........ parking pigs, man.
So I guess they passed this health care, and I was against it for a while, because I don't think socialism is good for America. But really, I don't know how the hell else I am going to pay off this emergency room bill. I'd have to find a lot of stoves to sell, and they ain't exactly growing on trees. So I just have to find out how I can use this health care to pay off my debt so I can go back to being a productive member of society that can buy shit. You know, spread the money around a little. And not just to the hospital, who should know better than to take advantage of a guy with a broke-ass foot.http://media.theonion.com/img/icons/terminator.gif

Uncle Bill
04-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Where is the text in the bill that suggests this? I would be interested in reading that.

Senate Bill, H.R. 3590, pages 273-274


Cody Covey
04-23-2010, 04:45 PM
Odd considering Obama didn't write the health care bill.

04-23-2010, 04:51 PM
There is nothing that mentions Muslims or Dhimmitude. There is a section on religious conscience exemption that would presumably apply to Christian Scientists among others.

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1 ‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (a) shall
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3 child residing with such individual) for any pe4
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tion for exemption under section 1402(g)(1) as
17 an application for exemption under this section,
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19 such sections, as the Secretary determines ap20
propriate. Any such exemption granted by the
21 Secretary shall be effective for such period as
22 the Secretary determines appropriate.

Eric Johnson
04-23-2010, 08:35 PM

What you quoted is from an older version and has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Here's the wording from the Nov 2009 bill....

19 BILITY REQUIREMENTS.—In the case of an indi
20 vidual who is seeking an exemption certificate under
21 section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or pen
22 alty imposed by section 5000A, the following infor
23 mation:
24 (A) In the case of an individual seeking ex
25 emption based on the individual’s status as a

1 member of an exempt religious sect or division,
2 as a member of a health care sharing ministry,
3 as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a
4 hardship exemption, such information as the
5 Secretary shall prescribe.


M&K's Retrievers
04-23-2010, 09:05 PM
Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't we repeal this mess rather than try to correct it? 56% of the country agrees.