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Uncle Bill
05-07-2010, 12:54 PM
I'd hate to think this BB is becoming complacent towards the Jihad that's occurring worldwide, while we muddle over oil spills, and other mundane activities.:rolleyes:

Here's some info for you to digest and comment about.

UB


Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of Parliament.


America as the last man standing


'In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe?'


Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.


Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.


I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.


First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam.




The Europe you know is changing.You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.


All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen.


And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead.


With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe.


These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.


There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.


Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.


In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. (Hard to believe)


Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.


In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.


In England Sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.



Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanyahu, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this.Stories about Islamization.


A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.


Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks.


The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.


The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.


Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus.


I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. That is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

(cont'd)

Uncle Bill
05-07-2010, 01:03 PM
(Cont'd)



Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against
non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods,
their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote
not to be ignored.



The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the
prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be
criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like
Gandhi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But
Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several
marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought
in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of
war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu
Qurayza. If it is good for Islam,
it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god,
and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a
political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for
society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every
aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with
freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is Sharia. If you
want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or
national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde
force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The
public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees
Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it
dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish
homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including
Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel
is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating
Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad,
like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in
Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way.
The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against
the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are
meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic
imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its
desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children
to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can
sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address
the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God
forbid, to go down, it would not bring
any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would
all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the
contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the
forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel
as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not
mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It
would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they
can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists
volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing
extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of
the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number
one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees
Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than
terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The
lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic
Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic
wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for
America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic
bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone
to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never
had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter,
by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe,
American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home,
and whose memory we cherish.
(cont'd)

Uncle Bill
05-07-2010, 01:10 PM
(cont'd)


My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams.

Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so. We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.

Please take the time to read and understand what is written here, Please send it to every free person that you know, it is so very important.

Koolaid
05-07-2010, 04:50 PM
I knew the day would come that UBs ctrl c/ctrl v skills would produce something I'm gonna have to mostly agree with. Unimaginable problem in the process. Always kinda sorta been anti-Israel for a lot of the crap they pull with Palestine, but I've actually never thought of them as effectively sucking up a lot of the hate that Islam produces. Learn something new everyday (not sarcasm).

blind ambition
05-07-2010, 05:50 PM
If the centuries of Christian hatred and persecution of the Jews who made their homes in Europe had not culminated in the atrocities of the Nazi regime, which then produced the Exodus and this begat the theft of Palestine from its Arab inhabitants of two centuries, would we be witness to the Muslim extremism we now see? One shudders to think of the world ahead 50-60-70 years beyond the time perhaps, soon coming, when Europe again commits similar atrocities on their Muslim populace, the rhetoric and the mood of today toward the Muslims is as toxic and potentially genocidal as it was toward the Jews after the fall of the Weimar Republik.

Uncle Bill
05-07-2010, 06:08 PM
If the centuries of Christian hatred and persecution of the Jews who made their homes in Europe had not culminated in the atrocities of the Nazi regime, which then produced the Exodus and this begat the theft of Palestine from its Arab inhabitants of two centuries, would we be witness to the Muslim extremism we now see? One shudders to think of the world ahead 50-60-70 years beyond the time perhaps, soon coming, when Europe again commits similar atrocities on their Muslim populace, the rhetoric and the mood of today toward the Muslims is as toxic and potentially genocidal as it was toward the Jews after the fall of the Weimar Republik.


The "theft of Palestine"??? Guess you folks in Vancouver read different history books than the ones I was given to study.

And you believe the 'mood of today' is caused with absolutely no reflection on the Muslims? I must have missed that part of history where the Jews attacked the Fatherland first, after getting all ginned up by their Rabbis to become human bombs...which of course came right out of their teachings at their Temples.

It is, however, good to know where I can suggest any Muslim I meet looking for a friendly home, and mebbe a spirited game of hockey, he can head for Vancouver.:rolleyes:

UB

Cody Covey
05-07-2010, 06:12 PM
If the centuries of Christian hatred and persecution of the Jews who made their homes in Europe had not culminated in the atrocities of the Nazi regime, which then produced the Exodus and this begat the theft of Palestine from its Arab inhabitants of two centuries, would we be witness to the Muslim extremism we now see? One shudders to think of the world ahead 50-60-70 years beyond the time perhaps, soon coming, when Europe again commits similar atrocities on their Muslim populace, the rhetoric and the mood of today toward the Muslims is as toxic and potentially genocidal as it was toward the Jews after the fall of the Weimar Republik.

Arab inhabitants for 2 centuries yes...but who had it before then...

is stealing back really stealing?

david gibson
05-07-2010, 06:54 PM
this is a prime example of how we are hanging ourselves with our own rope. by virtue of the unlimited freedoms we try to instill upon ourselves, and granting those same rights and freedoms upon our enemies as long as they are on our soil - or in many cases not - to enemies that do not respect these same rights and freedoms - we doom ourselves. because of this our democracy and/or democratic republic is as much a pie-in-the-sky works-only-in-theory utopian idea as communism.

prime example: those 3 navy seals that were finally acquitted. we watch our enemy behead and burn the corpses of our soldiers and flaunt it on global TV and we want to imprison the soldiers that apprehended them just because they might have punched him in the stomach???? soldiers that considered the murdered soldiers there brothers in arms? after our intel has proven that all the jihadists are trained to claim torture immediately upon capture? because they know our stupid leftist ideas of "fairness" work in their favor.

you cant win playing by the rules against those who refuse to follow them. we learned that in Viet Nam.



this world has gone mad. the utopian leftist views will strangle us.

Koolaid
05-07-2010, 07:51 PM
this world has gone mad. the utopian leftist views will strangle us.

I don't think you can blame this on "lefties". There's a good portion of people in the world who would call themselves secular humanists (you would call them lefties) who are very much against the assault that Islam puts on things like freedom of speech. I'm personally not a huge fan of religion in general, but even as a "lefty" I can see the difference between creationists that go to court trying to get non-science taught in the classroom, and Muslim fundamentalists willing to actually die for their cause.

An example that I would use for someone in the media would be Bill Maher. Calls himself a libertarian, but is clearly left biased. Very anti-theistic, but also talks about how he may think that Christians are ridiculous, but they are tame compared to their middle eastern counterparts.

kjrice
05-08-2010, 07:18 AM
If the centuries of Christian hatred and persecution of the Jews who made their homes in Europe had not culminated in the atrocities of the Nazi regime, which then produced the Exodus and this begat the theft of Palestine from its Arab inhabitants of two centuries, would we be witness to the Muslim extremism we now see? One shudders to think of the world ahead 50-60-70 years beyond the time perhaps, soon coming, when Europe again commits similar atrocities on their Muslim populace, the rhetoric and the mood of today toward the Muslims is as toxic and potentially genocidal as it was toward the Jews after the fall of the Weimar Republik.
Theft? LMAO...the handle fits.

dnf777
05-08-2010, 08:19 AM
Racial profiling is not necessarily racist. It is merely maximizing the effectiveness of any screening program, in this case, based on race. If you don't have resources to check EVERYONE, try to figure out who the high yield group is, and screen them. When we perform mammograms on women, does anyone cry "thats gender profiling!" Well, of course it is. It wouldn't be efficient use of limited resources to screen men as well, and many women in high risk groups would likely miss out.

So long as there's data to support profiling certain groups, be they islamic, a certain gender, blond, whatever.....if there's data to support that they are more likely than the general population to carry a certain trait or behavior, then selectively targeting them in a screen program is justified.

Uncle Bill
05-08-2010, 11:59 AM
I believe I'm racially profiled all the time. I hand the cashier a check or ATM card that has the name Tremayne Fields on it, they can't believe it's a white guys card and ask to see my drivers license.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:D:D:D


UB