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road kill
05-14-2010, 06:48 PM
First he whines about finger pointin;

"I did not appreciate what I considered to be a ridiculous spectacle during the congressional hearings into this matter," he intoned. "You had executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else."

Then he points the finger;


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005039-503544.html

I especially like this quote;

"For too long, for a decade or more, there has been a cozy relationship between the oil companies and the federal agency that permits them to drill. It seems as if permits were too often issued based on little more than assurances of safety from the oil companies. That cannot and will not happen anymore."

"A decade or more" clearly encompasses the Bush Administration, and may include the Clinton years too. But Mr. Obama's been president for nearly 16 months. Does he get at least a little piece of the blame?


Not a bit, he made clear. He portrayed his administration as valiantly fighting the good fight against the oil companies from day one:


"Now, from the day he took office as Interior Secretary, Ken Salazar has recognized these problems and he's worked to solve them. Often times he has been slammed by the industry, suggesting that somehow these necessary reforms would impede economic growth. Well, as I just told Ken, we are going to keep on going to do what needs to be done."

Remember when I mentioned Haliburton?
There is the scape goat and the relentless attack on Bush and Cheney, watch!!



rk

M&K's Retrievers
05-14-2010, 07:07 PM
This pompous ass will not accept responsibility for any thing bad. It's always someone else who is at fault. If BS were music he would be a symphony.

Blackstone
05-14-2010, 09:45 PM
This pompous ass will not accept responsibility for any thing bad. It's always someone else who is at fault. If BS were music he would be a symphony.

Show me a President that has!

paul young
05-15-2010, 03:59 AM
since he did not indicate the time period other than to say it was over the last decade, i think he included his administration as well.

who here thinks that this disaster has no one to blame? it certainly doesn't come under the heading of an "act of God".

mechanical man-made safety devices have failed that were put in place for this kind of failure. somebody screwed up. damages will be high and people have lost their lives and been severely injured. safety at other drilling sites and those tapped in the future need to be scrutinized now and in the future, i think.

just my opinion.....-Paul

Franco
05-15-2010, 07:21 AM
since he did not indicate the time period other than to say it was over the last decade, i think he included his administration as well.

who here thinks that this disaster has no one to blame? it certainly doesn't come under the heading of an "act of God".

mechanical man-made safety devices have failed that were put in place for this kind of failure. somebody screwed up. damages will be high and people have lost their lives and been severely injured. safety at other drilling sites and those tapped in the future need to be scrutinized now and in the future, i think.

just my opinion.....-Paul

I agree 100%!

The standard for inspection must be raised. However, when was the last time we have had an oil leake in the gulf? With hundreds of rigs drilling in the gulf, this is the first! So, if inspectors were a little too trusting in the drilling companies, it was only because of thier record.

Because Hallibuton is involved and every Democrat knows about Dick Cheney being the past president of the company, they will try and make it look like it is Dick Cheney and Hallibuton's fault.

YardleyLabs
05-15-2010, 07:33 AM
I agree 100%!

The standard for inspection must be raised. However, when was the last time we have had an oil leake in the gulf? With hundreds of rigs drilling in the gulf, this is the first! So, if inspectors were a little too trusting in the drilling companies, it was only because of thier record.

Because Hallibuton is involved and every Democrat knows about Dick Cheney being the past president of the company, they will try and make it look like it is Dick Cheney and Hallibuton's fault.
It is actually my understanding that there have been many leaks, although obviously none as major as this. Part of the problem is that the history of such leaks and the environmental consequences of those leaks has been largely ignored in evaluating risk despite concerns raised by scientists within the government.

Franco
05-15-2010, 07:50 AM
It is actually my understanding that there have been many leaks, although obviously none as major as this. Part of the problem is that the history of such leaks and the environmental consequences of those leaks has been largely ignored in evaluating risk despite concerns raised by scientists within the government.

Nothing that has made the news and certainly nothing remotely close to the current situation.

When casing is inserted into the drill hole, there is some minor leaking until the casing is done. Nowhere near what leaks naturally from the gulf floor.

depittydawg
05-15-2010, 06:25 PM
First he whines about finger pointin;

"I did not appreciate what I considered to be a ridiculous spectacle during the congressional hearings into this matter," he intoned. "You had executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else."

Then he points the finger;


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005039-503544.html

I especially like this quote;

"For too long, for a decade or more, there has been a cozy relationship between the oil companies and the federal agency that permits them to drill. It seems as if permits were too often issued based on little more than assurances of safety from the oil companies. That cannot and will not happen anymore."

"A decade or more" clearly encompasses the Bush Administration, and may include the Clinton years too. But Mr. Obama's been president for nearly 16 months. Does he get at least a little piece of the blame?


Not a bit, he made clear. He portrayed his administration as valiantly fighting the good fight against the oil companies from day one:


"Now, from the day he took office as Interior Secretary, Ken Salazar has recognized these problems and he's worked to solve them. Often times he has been slammed by the industry, suggesting that somehow these necessary reforms would impede economic growth. Well, as I just told Ken, we are going to keep on going to do what needs to be done."

Remember when I mentioned Haliburton?
There is the scape goat and the relentless attack on Bush and Cheney, watch!!



rk

Setting aside the fact that you despise Obama because he's a democrat, what did he say that wasn't true? In fact ALL big business with open check books have essentially controlled the agencies that are supposed to regulate them. During the Bush administration this was carried to new extremes. It was also extreme in the Clinton administration. See Banking, Finance, and FCC reforms. Obama has rightfully identified a serious problem, probably the most serious problem in this country right now. That is, the influence of BIG MONEY funneled from BIG BUSINESS into our prostitutes who currently staff federal positions in both government and regulatory positions.

I hope Obama is successful in setting this issue straight. But it will make the health care reform look like child's play. The Supreme Court has already stepped in and said Corporations can spend as much as they want without restriction in buying influence in Washington.

Steve Hester
05-15-2010, 10:50 PM
I don't dislike Obama because he's a Democrat. I dislike him because he's a liar, a Socialist pig, and the biggest spender EVER.

road kill
05-16-2010, 03:11 PM
Setting aside the fact that you despise Obama because he's a democrat, what did he say that wasn't true? In fact ALL big business with open check books have essentially controlled the agencies that are supposed to regulate them. During the Bush administration this was carried to new extremes. It was also extreme in the Clinton administration. See Banking, Finance, and FCC reforms. Obama has rightfully identified a serious problem, probably the most serious problem in this country right now. That is, the influence of BIG MONEY funneled from BIG BUSINESS into our prostitutes who currently staff federal positions in both government and regulatory positions.

I hope Obama is successful in setting this issue straight. But it will make the health care reform look like child's play. The Supreme Court has already stepped in and said Corporations can spend as much as they want without restriction in buying influence in Washington.

I think this one went right by you.
Didn't say anything he said was not true.
What the point was is this;
He is calling out finger pointing by pointing fingers.
Somewhat disengenuous and duplicitous.:D





rk

Cody Covey
05-16-2010, 09:12 PM
Untrue adolescent name calling.......those words were on your lips before the election.......that is all the people to the right of moderates have is name calling, no solutions - only opposition to proposed solutions.

The immense problems that existed and still exist in this country demand swift and drastic action. When your car is stuck in the ditch, you pay money to the wrecker to get it out of the ditch, else you can't move forward.

I haven't heard anybody saying that we shouldn't enforce and create more regulation for wall street, big banks, and offshore drilling........the largest corporations have proven time and again they are unethical, dishonest, and greedy........and they are/have been making their high risks bets with taxpayer money as the "backup plan".

I don't see anybody calling for smaller government in these areas............Well that would probably be because he was lying before he was elected.

When you car is stuck in the ditch and you don't have any money your car stays in the ditch until you can come up with some money and get it out. The democrats complained and complained and about borrow and spend and tax and spend and what do you know when they are now in office they are really showing the republicans how its done.

Borrow and spend regards...

Steve Hester
05-19-2010, 08:50 AM
Untrue adolescent name calling.......those words were on your lips before the election.......that is all the people to the right of moderates have is name calling, no solutions - only opposition to proposed solutions.

The immense problems that existed and still exist in this country demand swift and drastic action. When your car is stuck in the ditch, you pay money to the wrecker to get it out of the ditch, else you can't move forward.

I haven't heard anybody saying that we shouldn't enforce and create more regulation for wall street, big banks, and offshore drilling........the largest corporations have proven time and again they are unethical, dishonest, and greedy........and they are/have been making their high risks bets with taxpayer money as the "backup plan".

I don't see anybody calling for smaller government in these areas............

Those words were NOT on my lips before the election. But I did know before the election that I did not want a man for President of this country that had close personal ties with certain religious leaders that were racists, ties with terrorists, ties with the Chicago machine, and that spent his whole campaign making all these drastic promises that I knew at the time were impossible to keep. It also bothered me greatly that he never held a job in his life. You don't know me from Adam, and your statement that these words were on my lips prior to the election is "adolescent".

Now that Obama is President, my thoughts about him are much worse than prior to his election. He spends worse than any President in history, pushes and implements programs that will in the long term create the greatest deficits in history, made sure that Socialized Medicine got passed, through HIS administration's poor oversight allowed the huge companies that were propped up with billions of taxpayer money to pay huge bonuses to their people, the list goes on and on. And he deflects all the criticism of his current mistakes by blaming Bush. And all you Kool-Aid drinkers buy all that crap! He actually even has you all believing that the only way to fix the problems created by the Bush administration is to make sure that the government spends more than ever, giving him an opportunity push his Socialist programs.

And since your need to label me due to my negative opinions about Obama are so great, let me help you out; I am Conservative in that I believe that government should be smaller, spending should be less, the government should give a hand up, not hand outs, Socialized Medicine has NO place in America, our borders need to be made secure by the federal government, the illegal aliens in our country (the key word here is ILLEGAL) should either become citizens through the channels already established by law or be deported. Separation of Church and State was never intended by our forefathers to eliminate Christian values on which this country was founded. It was intended to keep the country from forcing a "government sponsored" religion on the general public. When a school, or any other entity, wants to have a moment of silent prayer, that's not foricng a government sponsored religion on anyone! I am moderate to liberal when it pertains to social issues. Abortion should be between a woman and her God and the government should stay out of it. Marijuana should be legalized and taxed. Many more lives are destroyed from alcohol use than will EVER be destroyed by marijuana use. I have mixed emotions about the death penalty.

So, there you have it. Take it or leave it, I don't really care.

duckheads
05-19-2010, 09:43 AM
Very well said Steve! I could not agree more!

"Setting aside the fact that you despise Obama because he's a democrat, what did he say that wasn't true? In fact ALL big business with open check books have essentially controlled the agencies that are supposed to regulate them. During the Bush administration this was carried to new extremes. It was also extreme in the Clinton administration. See Banking, Finance, and FCC reforms. Obama has rightfully identified a serious problem, probably the most serious problem in this country right now. That is, the influence of BIG MONEY funneled from BIG BUSINESS into our prostitutes who currently staff federal positions in both government and regulatory positions. "

And you think Obama and his Chicago machine and cronies are going to change this? You have got to be kidding me! If you think he is going to change this then it is confirmed in my mind that Liberalism is a disease!

Hope and change regards!~