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david gibson
06-24-2010, 10:36 AM
That is right - I will say it "(THANK GOD FOR THE PRESIDENT)."

he really is bringing us Hope and Change!!!

" 1. He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the
heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations - something that no Republican
was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights
out of you!

2. He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedy's trolling
Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women
and Freedom are safer tonight!

3. He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes!

Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit

Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit

Byron Dorgan had never lost a race - quit

Harry Reid - soon to be GONE

These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama
has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be gone.

In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two
election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The
press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican
Party. In just one year, Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably
give the house, if not the senate back to the Republicans.

4. He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they
are. Every Generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should
never actually put liberals in charge.He is bringing home the lesson very
well.

Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check

Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check

Liberals want to take over the economy - check

Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check

Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check

5. He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since
Reagan. In one year he has rejuvenated the Conservative movement and brought
out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans. Name me one other
time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in
taking back America !

6. His amazing leadership has sparked the greatest period of sales of
firearms and ammunition this country has seen. Law abiding citizens have
rallied and have provided a "stimulus" to the sporting goods field while
other industries have failed, faded or moved off-shore.

7. In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I have been in my
life. Not of the economy but of the direction our country was going. I
thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My
neighbors, friends and strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of
the Greatness and Wisdom of the American people was flat wrong.

8. When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter
reader can fool them!

Barack Obama woke up these Great Americans! Again I want to say Thank
You Barack Obama! This is exactly the kind of hope and change we desperately needed."

Julie R.
06-24-2010, 11:24 AM
This post made me think of one thing that started in the Bush admin. and has vastly affected political opinions on both the right and the left, and that is the rise and domination of the internet.

Bush was the first victim: At the start of his first term, most people got their news from the daily papers and the evening news. In 2000 fewer than half of us had internet at home and it was cumbersome. By the time his administration faltered during his 2nd term more people got their news online and with the proliferation of websites and blogs, it was very easy to read others' opinions on various websites and blogs and decide to go with the masses (a la Roger Perry): Aha! It's all Bush's fault! He is evil and destroying our lives.

Obongo was the first Pres. that was obviously famliar with the internet, social and online networking and exploited it for heretofore unprecedented coalition-making. While it worked in his favor to get him elected, it seems to be turning against him now. Among other things, it's very easy to find all his broken campaign promises.

I'm not defending the POTUS; from the beginning I thought he was an empty stuffed shirt, a lightweight and prop manipulated by others with nefarious agendas. I wasn't a fan of Bush either, but early on I recognized that the Roger Perrys of the nation that truly believed he was evil are just lemmings trying to fit in with what they read online.

I don't see that same lemming mentality of "It's all Bush's fault" with those that are discovering this POTUS hope and change platform was fraudulent. People, even those that supported him initially, that are used to earning a living and not relying on handouts and entitlements are watching many things they hold dear being trampled. What has changed is those that have grown up with the entitlement mentality that never used to vote or have any opinion on current events are now having an equal say in the direction this country is taking. "Gimme mine now" "It's not FAIR!" "Let's tax hell out of that rich dude that owns that company!" and so on. The electorate is becoming dumbed down to accomodate the lowest common denominator.

dnf777
06-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Julie,
That was an awesome post...made me think for a while. While obviously we disagree on much of what is discussed here, I suspect we would find much to agree upon, especially in the line where you mentioned the working people finding much of what they hold dear being trampled. I agree.

The reason for such trampling, we may disagree upon, but I would offer that in a contracting economy, all those things we hold dear, and then some, are going to go away or be adversely affected. Its very saddening to see amusement parks and entetainment venues that I have memories of as a kid, that used to be bustling with kids and parents, now sitting idle. (wiis might be partially to blame here, also!) But people don't seem to have as much money for "fun" stuff....and that ripples long distances through the economy...especially in affluent societies such as America.

depittydawg
06-24-2010, 06:34 PM
This post made me think of one thing that started in the Bush admin. and has vastly affected political opinions on both the right and the left, and that is the rise and domination of the internet.

Bush was the first victim: At the start of his first term, most people got their news from the daily papers and the evening news. In 2000 fewer than half of us had internet at home and it was cumbersome. By the time his administration faltered during his 2nd term more people got their news online and with the proliferation of websites and blogs, it was very easy to read others' opinions on various websites and blogs and decide to go with the masses (a la Roger Perry): Aha! It's all Bush's fault! He is evil and destroying our lives.

Obongo was the first Pres. that was obviously famliar with the internet, social and online networking and exploited it for heretofore unprecedented coalition-making. While it worked in his favor to get him elected, it seems to be turning against him now. Among other things, it's very easy to find all his broken campaign promises.

I'm not defending the POTUS; from the beginning I thought he was an empty stuffed shirt, a lightweight and prop manipulated by others with nefarious agendas. I wasn't a fan of Bush either, but early on I recognized that the Roger Perrys of the nation that truly believed he was evil are just lemmings trying to fit in with what they read online.

I don't see that same lemming mentality of "It's all Bush's fault" with those that are discovering this POTUS hope and change platform was fraudulent. People, even those that supported him initially, that are used to earning a living and not relying on handouts and entitlements are watching many things they hold dear being trampled. What has changed is those that have grown up with the entitlement mentality that never used to vote or have any opinion on current events are now having an equal say in the direction this country is taking. "Gimme mine now" "It's not FAIR!" "Let's tax hell out of that rich dude that owns that company!" and so on. The electorate is becoming dumbed down to accomodate the lowest common denominator.

You're on the right track with something here. I'd broaden the perspective of this. It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down. Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today. Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

Pals
06-24-2010, 06:38 PM
And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

And those who rely on CNN or MSNBC are sheep.

huntinman
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
You're on the right track with something here. I'd broaden the perspective of this. It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down. Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today. Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

dawg, once again you are a little off. The reason the demand for alternative sources of information is so high is because the left wing media such as abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc only tell us what they want us the hear and that is the liberal slant. People are sick of it and are gravitating to other sources. That is going to play a big part in running these rats out of Washington.

subroc
06-24-2010, 08:19 PM
You're on the right track with something here. I'd broaden the perspective of this. It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down. Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today. Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

fox shmox

This is just silly

News has always been one sided. Now, with the rise of the internet and other points of view readily available, how one sided the "news" that was presented as real news for all that time is finally exposed as being one sided (left wing extremist). You were propagandized for so long that you believe any other point of view is considered confusion. You illustrate the closed mind of the left very well.

Your left wing extremist propaganda awaits...

luvmylabs23139
06-24-2010, 09:40 PM
Y And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

I'll take FOX over the COMUNIST NEWS NETWORK anyday. Had to tell my 70 year old mother when she was visiting that Communist news network is banned in my house.:rolleyes:

Clint Watts
06-25-2010, 02:08 AM
You're on the right track with something here. I'd broaden the perspective of this. It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down. Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today. Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

What are the particulars, you know the facts that you dispute as lies on Fox? Argue the content, not your bias. Why is the "real news" not profitable anymore? Why are Fox's ratings so much higher than the competition? I would like to hear your non answer.

Goose
06-25-2010, 08:43 AM
You're on the right track with something here. I'd broaden the perspective of this. It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down. Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today. Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

Another mighty fine Cuban foot soldier.

M&K's Retrievers
06-25-2010, 09:22 AM
And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.

Just exactly where should I get my news info. Please enlighten me. I didn't realize I was so frigging stupid. Please help me. I need your guidance. Please. Please. Geeze, what am I to do?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

subroc
06-25-2010, 09:30 AM
I expect his "guidance" would consist of MSNBC, the daily kos and the huffington post.

Julie R.
06-25-2010, 11:13 AM
It isn't so much the internet, as it is the rise of subjective analysis and opinion presented as journalism that has confused so many people. It hit the television during the nineties and has never slowed down.

It "hit" television in the 90s? When were you born, in the 1980s? Television and many of the major dailies always had a liberal bias.



Fox lead the way with this and once it was determined to be profitable the other networks followed. From there it spread to the internet and for many people these have become their "news" sources. Combine this with the fact that the budgets for "real news" has been cut drastically (its not profitable) and you get where we are today.

Wrong again: You cannot blame the decline in quality of network and print news on Fox, it simply profited by presenting a different viewpoint that attacted more and different viewers. But even Fox has fallen victim to the lack of profitability of "hard news" and the rise of "infotainment" as headliners to garner ratings.




Studies have been done around the world and America unfortuanately is one of the least informed or most confused (however you want to label it) populations in Western Civilization now. And BTW, those who rely on Fox as their source of news, are the least informed of the uninformed.


I'd love to see any link to said studies, including ones that prove Americans are the dumbest and most confused population in the Western Hemisphere. If we were that dumb and confused, we'd be living and breeding in corrugated tin huts in squalor like Haitians, and scrambling to get across the border into Mexico and Canada to get our free stuff, wouldn't we? Although my personal opinion is we're heading in that direction by dumbing down education, promoting an entitlement mentality and allowing the lowest common denominator, the parasites and leeches of society, to determine the course this country is on.

david gibson
06-25-2010, 11:33 AM
[SIZE=3][COLOR=navy]I'd love to see any link to said studies, including ones that prove Americans are the dumbest and most confused population in the Western Hemisphere. If we were that dumb and confused, we'd be living and breeding in corrugated tin huts in squalor like Haitians, and scrambling to get across the border into Mexico and Canada to get our free stuff, wouldn't we? Although my personal opinion is we're heading in that direction by dumbing down education, promoting an entitlement mentality and allowing the lowest common denominator, the parasites and leeches of society, to determine the course this country is on.

because in europe, china, iran, russia, everywhere else there is far far less varied viewpoints to digest. europe has been on a socialist trip for years, and we all know how one sided the news is everywhere else. they go to prison or get shot or hung if they present an opposing viewpoint. people like the pup that want to shut FSN down just cant understand that and cant read the writing on the wall when Air America falls apart before it even gets down the runway. then they come up with stuff like "fairness acts".

americans arguably are the most informed of all the world, debate occurs when we dont march in lock step. obamas apology tour showed he wants headed down the path you describe - he does not see america as the world leader.

depittydawg
06-25-2010, 12:03 PM
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[SIZE=3][COLOR=navy]I'd love to see any link to said studies, including ones that prove Americans are the dumbest /QUOTE]

"The electorate is becoming dumbed down to accomodate the lowest common denominator."

Any idea who might have written that statement?

I'm amazed at the number of people who responded to this. And, frankly in the manner in which many of you responded.
Here is a link that you asked for that I found that supports my statement. If you want any other support or contradiction then do your won research. This is the last statement I'll make here.

http://pcl.stanford.edu/research/2009/iyengar-darkareas.pdf

Here are some excerpts from the study.
This study tests the hypothesis that cross-national differences in public awareness of
international affairs are attributable to differences in the supply of international news and
citizens’ demand for information. Simultaneously, the authors compared the level of news
coverage accorded specific “target” subjects in major Swiss and U.S. news organizations and
the level of attentiveness to news among Swiss and U.S. citizens. The authors’ results
revealed that Swiss media provided more hard international news than U.S. media, that
Swiss citizens reported higher levels of news exposure, and that the Swiss were also
considerably more informed than the Americans on questions of hard news.

Thus, declining
revenues prompted American news organizations to scale back their overseas
bureaus and staff (Norris, 1996). In the public-service model, on the other hand,
there is less pressure to reduce the substantive and international components of news
programming. Therefore, in comparison with most European societies, we anticipate
that news coverage in the United States is significantly more “domesticated.”

In 1994, for example, citizens of Spain, Italy,
Canada, Germany, Britain, and France were generally more likely to provide correct
answers to a series of questions tapping international affairs. Using the percentage of
the sample unable to provide the correct answer to a single question as the indicator of
public ignorance, the United States trailed other nations by 50 percentage points: 37%
of the American sample was classified as ignorant compared with an average of 19%
for Italy, France, Britain, Germany, and Canada (Kohut, Toth, & Bowman, 1994).

It looks like a very comprehensive research. I haven't read it all yet. I've got things to do, but I bookmarked it and will go over it later. I suggest you read it with an open mind.

subroc
06-25-2010, 12:17 PM
It looks like a very comprehensive research. I haven't read it all yet.


you cite research as supporting your position, yet you haven't read it yet? common about lefties. left wing politicians pass legislation without reading it as well.

my point is about issues finally receiving the full breath of opinion. obviously, you pine for the days of left wing propagana being the only news or position presnted.

how sad...

depittydawg
06-25-2010, 06:38 PM
you cite research as supporting your position, yet you haven't read it yet? common about lefties. left wing politicians pass legislation without reading it as well.

my point is about issues finally receiving the full breath of opinion. obviously, you pine for the days of left wing propagana being the only news or position presnted.

how sad...

Why am I not surprised at your comment. When faced with evidence that your point is not valid, you resort to attacking the messenger. If you can't read the article, at least read the excerpts I provided in my last post.

So now I will challenge you. Find me a link of a study that supports your claim that American's are better informed of world events from our dumbed down 24 hour news cycle, profit driven brand of journalism that you espouse.

subroc
06-25-2010, 06:57 PM
I have a study that supports your position

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Pals
06-25-2010, 07:22 PM
OMG I need a drink. That was painful to watch.

Franco
06-25-2010, 07:42 PM
Viewership of Fox News, delivered via to homes either by cable or satellite is small piece of the pie compared to the broadcast networks like ABC CBS and NBC.

One-third of the households in the USA do not subscribe to cable or satellite.

So, the liberal broadcast networks have much more influence than little ole Fox News. Granted FN dominates cable/satellite news but then again, one must be able to afford these delivery systems.

subroc
06-25-2010, 07:55 PM
Franco

True enough. but guys like depittydawg seems to believe we, as a nation, are uninformed.

I expect we are the most informed nation on the planet.

wheter individuals choose to take advantage of the infomation oportunities is another mater all together. The infomation is there for all.

finally both sides of positions are there to be consumed not just the left wing extremist positions propagandized for so long by abc, cbs, nbc and cnn.

the internet let the genie out of the bottle.