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road kill
07-06-2010, 04:32 PM
.....and what does he know about anything?

"Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage with this so called president? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of tax cheating clueless leftists trying to steer our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even run a ridiculous cash-for-clunkers program without losing $26 billion of the taxpayers' money, much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'trust me the economy is getting better..'



Better? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the Democrats out along with Obama!'



You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..



The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we're fiddling in Afghanistan , Iran is completing their nuclear bombs and missiles and nobody seems to know what to do. And the liberal press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?



I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.)



Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with thumb up your butt and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.



On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.



We're immersed in a bloody war now with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. But our soldiers are dying daily.



We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the world, and it's getting worse every day!



We've lost the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.



Gas prices are going to skyrock again, and nobody in power has a lucid plan to open drilling to solve the problem. This country has the largest oil reserves in the WORLD, and we cannot drill for it because the politicians have been bought by the flea-hugging environmentalists.



Our schools are in a complete disaster because of the teachers union.



Our borders are like sieves and they want to give all illegal's amnesty and free healthcare.



The middle class is being squeezed to death every day.



These are times that cry out for leadership.



But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point..



Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?



We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.



Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping the government will make it better for them. Now, that's just crazy.. Deal with life.



Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, look what Obama did about it!



Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.



I have news for the Chicago gangsters in Congress. We didn't elect you to turn this country into a losing European Socialist state. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?



Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years since 9/11. "



rk:D

troy schwab
07-06-2010, 04:41 PM
RK,
Not sure where your headed with this, but I agree with pretty much all of it! This country is headed to a status that we cant even fathom.......... unfortunately. God help our children!

road kill
07-06-2010, 04:54 PM
RK,
Not sure where your headed with this, but I agree with pretty much all of it! This country is headed to a status that we cant even fathom.......... unfortunately. God help our children!

I think Lee pretty much says it all here.
This is an excerpt from his best seller "Where Have All the Leaders Gone!!"

What a great an honest American!!



rk

Buzz
07-07-2010, 12:04 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/iacocca.asp


It would be interesting if it were not for the fact that This is a revision of Iacocca's criticism of Bush. This thing is a lie, plain and simple.

JDogger
07-07-2010, 12:09 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/iacocca.asp


It would be interesting if it were not for the fact that This is a revision of Iacocca's criticism of Bush. This thing is a lie, plain and simple.

Aaah Hell, Buzz... I guess I just admitted it again. rk:p

road kill
07-07-2010, 07:46 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/iacocca.asp


It would be interesting if it were not for the fact that This is a revision of Iacocca's criticism of Bush. This thing is a lie, plain and simple.

Ah yes, the GOLD standard!!

I wonder if Mr. Snopes knows President Bush is not from Chicago??
"I have news for the Chicago gangsters in Congress. We didn't elect you to turn this country into a losing European Socialist state. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?"


It must be a lie!
I think I'll just stand by it for now.
And you "independent middle of the roaders" keep supporting this guy in the Whitehouse.
It's funny what he makes you excuse.


rk:D

road kill
07-07-2010, 07:52 AM
Aaah Hell, Buzz... I guess I just admitted it again. rk:p

I don't know where you get off signing my tag.

I am "rk," and you ain't.

Not on your best day.:D




rk

Franco
07-07-2010, 10:02 AM
Lee Iacocca, the first to secure a Federal Bailout for his failing Chrysler Corporation.

Feds have the unique distinction of bailing Chrysler out twice! No more though as they are now owned by the Italian company Fiat.

Favorite Iacocca quote, " This company like most corporations are run by Bean Counters and not men with vision".

paul young
07-07-2010, 10:02 AM
Stan,

i think what he is saying is that someone dug up an old tirade that was passed around during the last administrations tenure (of which parts were not Mr. Iacocca's words) and revised it, inserting Obama's name and updating current issues where (in)appropriate. this stuff happens ALL THE TIME on the internet.-Paul

Buzz
07-07-2010, 10:06 AM
I knew his was a lie the instant I started reading it because I read Iacocca's book when it came out, and I knew that snoops must have had something on it. You can kid yourself and continue to believe that Iacocca wrote if you want, ignorance is bliss.

Buzz
07-07-2010, 10:09 AM
Stan,

i think what he is saying is that someone dug up an old tirade that was passed around during the last administrations tenure (of which parts were not Mr. Iacocca's words) and revised it, inserting Obama's name and updating current issues where (in)appropriate. this stuff happens ALL THE TIME on the internet.-Paul

That is exactly what I was saying, but I was typing on an iPod so maybe I used too few words to be clear. Snipes has the exact quote from Iacocca's book, in it he rakes Bush over the coal like no one else could.

Roger Perry
07-07-2010, 01:12 PM
.....and what does he know about anything?

"Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage with this so called president? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of tax cheating clueless leftists trying to steer our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even run a ridiculous cash-for-clunkers program without losing $26 billion of the taxpayers' money, much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'trust me the economy is getting better..'



Better? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the Democrats out along with Obama!'



You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..



The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we're fiddling in Afghanistan , Iran is completing their nuclear bombs and missiles and nobody seems to know what to do. And the liberal press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?



I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.)



Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with thumb up your butt and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.



On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.



We're immersed in a bloody war now with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. But our soldiers are dying daily.



We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the world, and it's getting worse every day!



We've lost the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.



Gas prices are going to skyrock again, and nobody in power has a lucid plan to open drilling to solve the problem. This country has the largest oil reserves in the WORLD, and we cannot drill for it because the politicians have been bought by the flea-hugging environmentalists.



Our schools are in a complete disaster because of the teachers union.



Our borders are like sieves and they want to give all illegal's amnesty and free healthcare.



The middle class is being squeezed to death every day.



These are times that cry out for leadership.



But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point..



Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?



We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.



Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping the government will make it better for them. Now, that's just crazy.. Deal with life.



Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, look what Obama did about it!



Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.



I have news for the Chicago gangsters in Congress. We didn't elect you to turn this country into a losing European Socialist state. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?



Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years since 9/11. "



rk:D

If you are in your high eighty's you look good for your age. :lol:

YardleyLabs
07-07-2010, 01:21 PM
Given that the "quote" is excerpted from Iacocca's book, Where Have All The Leaders Gone, which was published in 2007, it is pretty clearly not related to the Obama administration.

road kill
07-07-2010, 01:41 PM
Given that the "quote" is excerpted from Iacocca's book, Where Have All The Leaders Gone, which was published in 2007, it is pretty clearly not related to the Obama administration.

Given the context......it CLEARLY speaks to Obama.




rk

Buzz
07-07-2010, 01:45 PM
You still maintain that Iacocca said it?

YardleyLabs
07-07-2010, 01:46 PM
Given the context......it CLEARLY speaks to Obama.




rk
And yet, strangely enough, was directed at Bush -- but who's Lee Iacocca and what does he know?:D

road kill
07-07-2010, 01:48 PM
And yet, strangely enough, was directed at Bush -- but who's Lee Iacocca and what does he know?:D


And yet, strangely enough, it applies even more now.

But once again....the GOLD standard!!:D



rk

Franco
07-07-2010, 02:28 PM
Other than Iaccoca being a bag of hot air, his vision for saving Chrysler was the K Car! Anyone remember that gem on wheels? I'm not sure who wrote his books for him but, he was bigger in quotes than real life!

Buzz
07-07-2010, 05:29 PM
Other than Iaccoca being a bag of hot air, his vision for saving Chrysler was the K Car! Anyone remember that gem on wheels? I'm not sure who wrote his books for him but, he was bigger in quotes than real life!

Yea, total looser.

road kill
07-07-2010, 05:30 PM
Yea, total looser.

I don't care if George Soros said it, it applies today!!:D



rk

dnf777
07-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Other than Iaccoca being a bag of hot air, his vision for saving Chrysler was the K Car! Anyone remember that gem on wheels? I'm not sure who wrote his books for him but, he was bigger in quotes than real life!

yeah. didn't he accept what we now refer to as a "government bailout" on behalf of Chrysler?

I do know when he worked for Ford, he was a leading opponent of mandatory seatbelts in cars. Didn't wan't goobermint telling folks what to do...or even requiring they have the option of wearing a seatbelt!

http://www.seatbeltdefects.com/lap_belts/index.html

According to government studies, the failure to have shoulder belts in rear seats may have caused as many as 6,000 deaths and serious injuries per year. In the early 1970s, NHSTA proposed shoulder belts in all out board seating positions, but Lee Iacocca, as president of Ford, and other industry executives successfully lobbied for President Richard Nixon to block the implementation of such regulations. During these debates, Iacocca stated that the shoulder belts and headrests were “a complete waste of money” even though he said, “no doubt that it saves lives.” Years later, Lee Iacocca in his autobiography stated “the plain truth is that if you are wearing a combined shoulder and lap belt system, it's almost impossible to be killed in an impact under 30 mph.”


As to whether he was referring to Bush or Obama, I think the following exerpt will easily clarify that question:

Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course." Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!

No thanks. He may have turned around Chrysler (with our nickel!) but he clearly put corporate well-being above the lives of the people who bought his products. Not an honorable man in my book, fwiw.

Roger Perry
07-08-2010, 02:01 PM
Given the context......it CLEARLY speaks to Obama.




rk

So what did you do erase Bush's name and insert Obama's name?