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david gibson
08-04-2010, 02:57 PM
i will honor him with the following. seen some of it before, but well worth reading and more importantly remembering.....


Read it slowly and carefully so you will be sure not to misunderstand :

The Fundamental Transformation of America.

When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn't matter.

When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists who sent Obama's mother to a socialist school where she was introduced to Frank Marshall Davis. He was later introduced to young Barrack Hussein Obama. People said it didn't matter.

When people found out that Barrack Hussein Obama was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and stepfather were both Muslims, people said it didn't matter.

When he wrote in another book he authored "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction" people said it didn't matter.

When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college-- people said it didn't matter.

When he traveled to Pakistan , after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn't matter.

When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist Party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it didn't matter.

When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn't matter.

When an independent Washington organization, that tracks Senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator," people said it didn't matter.

When the Palestinians in Gaza set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn't matter.

When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn't matter. When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn't matter.

When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.

When it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.

When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn't matter.

When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn't matter.

When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin, and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.

When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.

When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn't matter.

When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro- abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn't matter..

When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn't matter.

When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.

When his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.

When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn't matter.

When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco--a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home-- people said it didn't matter.

When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn't matter.

When he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn't matter.

When he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this Nation" into something else, people said it didn't matter.

When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in "Explicit Consent," harvesting human organs without family consent, and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Mark Lloyd, as Diversity Czar, who believes in curtailing free speech; taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth; who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.

When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's Senior White House Advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn't matter.

When Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher-- and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Carol Browner as Global Warming Czar, and her being a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nations largest tax, people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn't matter.

When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn't matter..

When as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter.

When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.

When his actions concerning the Middle-East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time ally, people said it didn't matter.

When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States, people said it didn't matter.

When he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn't matter.

When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops early-on when the Field Commanders said they were necessary to win, people said it didn't matter.

When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.

When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.

When he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn't matter.

When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.

When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.

When he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and 'stating' that he was raised a Muslim; was educated as a Muslim; and that he is still a Muslim-- people said it didn't matter.

When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.


When he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people finally woke up--- but it was too late. Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society.

How can you know that and STILL support him????!!! ... Unless those are your beliefs too.

All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this do an internet search. STOP BEING BLIND AND IGNORANT TO IT - ITS ALL THERE RIGHT BEFORE YOU!!!

The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ?

If you are an Obama Supporter don' be angry with me because I think Barrack Hussein Obama is a socialist. Far too many facts support he is indeed a Socialist. If you seek the truth you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition.. Search for the truth.

Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalists, Libertarians all need to pull together - or watch the demise of a free democratic society!!

Pray for Americans to seek the truth and take action for it will keep us FREE. Our biggest enemy is not China , Russia , North Korea , and Iran our biggest enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington DC . The goverment will not help, so we need to do it ourselves.

Question....will you delete this, or pass it on to others who don't know about O'bama"s actions and plans for the U S of A, so that they may know how to vote in November, and the ensuing years?

It's your decision.

gman0046
08-04-2010, 06:16 PM
Excellent post David. Fortunately I truly believe America has woken up and Obongolo has been exposed as a FRAUD. His poll numbers are dropping like a stone. As of yesterday his approval rating was down to 41%. Today Missouri has spoken with a vote of 71% against Obongolo Care. Its about time for all Americans to stand up and take our country back from muslims and socialists.

paul young
08-04-2010, 08:09 PM
did you actually form all those thoughts and write it yourself, David?-Paul

david gibson
08-04-2010, 08:20 PM
did you actually form all those thoughts and write it yourself, David?-Paul

absolutely not. anyone with an ounce of intuition would interpret: "seen some of it before, but well worth reading and more importantly remembering....."" as not something i wrote myself, but something i found that had a few things i had seen before with some new stuff added to it.

and the last line: "Question....will you delete this, or pass it on to others who don't know about O'bama"s actions and plans for the U S of A, so that they may know how to vote in November, and the ensuing years?

It's your decision. "

is the classic sign off of multitudes of mass emails.

do i have to explain everything to you? not surprised.

paul young
08-04-2010, 08:30 PM
just asking. others here have been taken to task for not footnoting quoted materials, to the point of being called plagiarists.

if you had stated something to the effect that you had received this as an email and were passing it along because you thought it was important, i wouldn't have even asked.

it was totally not in your style, however, so i felt compelled to find out if these were your own thoughts.-Paul

david gibson
08-04-2010, 09:22 PM
just asking. others here have been taken to task for not footnoting quoted materials, to the point of being called plagiarists.

if you had stated something to the effect that you had received this as an email and were passing it along because you thought it was important, i wouldn't have even asked.

it was totally not in your style, however, so i felt compelled to find out if these were your own thoughts.-Paul

so do you have anything of substance to add or were you just looking for a weak spot to attack?

M&K's Retrievers
08-04-2010, 09:26 PM
just asking. others here have been taken to task for not footnoting quoted materials, to the point of being called plagiarists.

if you had stated something to the effect that you had received this as an email and were passing it along because you thought it was important, i wouldn't have even asked.

it was totally not in your style, however, so i felt compelled to find out if these were your own thoughts.-Paul

I really don't care whose thoughts they belong to they are hard to dispute.

david gibson
08-04-2010, 09:52 PM
I really don't care whose thoughts they belong to they are hard to dispute.

which is why no lefties have tried to spin them yet. they are still in the huddle....

paul young
08-05-2010, 04:25 AM
you know, David, if you didn't throw so many rocks at people, you wouldn't worry so much about others doing the same to you.

you don't really know much about me if you think i would personally attack you over a bunch of RW talking points.-Paul

YardleyLabs
08-05-2010, 05:08 AM
What a pile of drivel. Bouncing around right wing mail boxes doesn't turn BS into anything but well traveled BS. Rather than respond point by point, I will simply point to where one response may be found at http://open.salon.com/blog/robert_kelley/2010/01/07/the_fundamental_transformation_of_america_with_com mentary. I don't agree completely with the response, but it addresses most of the issues.

road kill
08-05-2010, 06:30 AM
What a pile of drivel. Bouncing around right wing mail boxes doesn't turn BS into anything but well traveled BS. Rather than respond point by point, I will simply point to where one response may be found at http://open.salon.com/blog/robert_kelley/2010/01/07/the_fundamental_transformation_of_america_with_com mentary. I don't agree completely with the response, but it addresses most of the issues.

Your link is of no value.
It is a self proclaimed "Left Fielder's" OPINION.

0 fact.
Your rip on Dave's post as drivel is just that, an opinionated rip, just like your "BLOG" link.

BLOG:
"A blog (a portmanteau of the term "web log")[1] is a type of website or part of a website. Blogs are usually maintained by an individual with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video. Entries are commonly displayed in reverse-chronological order. "Blog" can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.

Many blogs provide commentary or news on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, Web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability of readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of many blogs. Most blogs are primarily textual, although some focus on art (Art blog), photographs (photoblog), videos (Video blogging), music (MP3 blog), and audio (podcasting). Microblogging is another type of blogging, featuring very short posts."

Is this another "fact based well thought out post?"
Pathetic,



RK

YardleyLabs
08-05-2010, 07:14 AM
Your link is of no value.
It is a self proclaimed "Left Fielder's" OPINION.

0 fact.
Your rip on Dave's post as drivel is just that, an opinionated rip, just like your "BLOG" link.

BLOG:
"A blog (a portmanteau of the term "web log")[1] is a type of website or part of a website. Blogs are usually maintained by an individual with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video. Entries are commonly displayed in reverse-chronological order. "Blog" can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.

Many blogs provide commentary or news on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, Web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability of readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of many blogs. Most blogs are primarily textual, although some focus on art (Art blog), photographs (photoblog), videos (Video blogging), music (MP3 blog), and audio (podcasting). Microblogging is another type of blogging, featuring very short posts."

Is this another "fact based well thought out post?"
Pathetic,



RK
You're seriously complaining about the reliability of a blog posting to support the credibility of an unsigned broad-blast, right wing email message?

That's really pathetic.

Check the links in the post....(and note the lapel pins)

http://culturekitchen.com/files/mccain-obama-debate.jpg

david gibson
08-05-2010, 07:15 AM
What a pile of drivel. Bouncing around right wing mail boxes doesn't turn BS into anything but well traveled BS. Rather than respond point by point, I will simply point to where one response may be found at http://open.salon.com/blog/robert_kelley/2010/01/07/the_fundamental_transformation_of_america_with_com mentary. I don't agree completely with the response, but it addresses most of the issues.

wow, that was even weaker than what i generally expect from you.

road kill
08-05-2010, 07:17 AM
You're seriously complaining about the reliability of a blog posting to support the credibility of an unsigned broad-blast, right wing email message?

That's really pathetic.

Check the links in the post....(and note the lapel pins)

http://culturekitchen.com/files/mccain-obama-debate.jpg

Do you have ADD??

Here is the topic, you posted a blog titled "From Left Field" as though it were fact.

The very premise of a blog is opinion much like all of your "fact based well thought out posts."

Try to stay on topic, whenever you get it handed to you you deflect.

YOU used a BLOG as though it were FACT!!

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

ROFLMMFAO!!!!!!:D



RK

YardleyLabs
08-05-2010, 07:27 AM
Do you have ADD??

Here is the topic, you posted a blog titled "From Left Field" as though it were fact.

The very premise of a blog is opinion (much like all of you "fact based well thought out posts."

Try to stay on topic, whenever you get it handed to you you deflect.

YOU used a BLOG as though it were FACT!!

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

ROFLMMFAO!!!!!!:D



RK
Read my post. I did not post it as fact and indicated my disagreement with some of its statements. David posted the email as fact when, in fact, it is full of major distortions. I'll post a deailed analysis of the email posting as soon as you, David, or someone else goes ahead and posts fact-check references for each of the assertions made in the message. I won't be holding my breath since, if such an analysis were produced, it would be a first for a conservative paster of email dreck on POTUS.

road kill
08-05-2010, 07:30 AM
Read my post. I did not post it as fact and indicated my disagreement with some of its statements. David posted the email as fact when, in fact, it is full of major distortions. I'll post a deailed analysis of the email posting as soon as you, David, or someone else goes ahead and posts fact-check references for each of the assertions made in the message. I won't be holding my breath since, if such an analysis were produced, it would be a first for a conservative paster of email dreck on POTUS.
It's fun to watch you wriggle.

I think nothing more need be said about the content of Davids post, we can all see the accuracy of it on a day to day basis.


But YOU are the poster of "fact based well thought out posts."

Would your blog link fit into that category??

Again, no need to answer, we already know.




RK

YardleyLabs
08-05-2010, 07:36 AM
It's fun to watch you wriggle.

I think nothing more need be said about the content of Davids post, we can all see the accuracy of it on a day to day basis.


But YOU are the poster of "fact based well thought out posts."

Would your blog link fit into that category??

Again, no need to answer, we already know.




RK
Check the facts yourself and find out. The experience might do you good.

david gibson
08-05-2010, 07:37 AM
Read my post. I did not post it as fact and indicated my disagreement with some of its statements. David posted the email as fact when, in fact, it is full of major distortions. I'll post a deailed analysis of the email posting as soon as you, David, or someone else goes ahead and posts fact-check references for each of the assertions made in the message. I won't be holding my breath since, if such an analysis were produced, it would be a first for a conservative paster of email dreck on POTUS.

lets just pull one or two at random:

"When he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn't matter."

the name geitmer ring a bell??

"When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn't matter."

google "jeremiah wright". you might recall him

the fact is everything in that post has a basis fact. and whats funny is your little "left field blogger" just collaborates the entire post - for each item he basically says "it doesnt matter"

Henry V
08-05-2010, 12:08 PM
Jeff and Paul,
Thanks for ruining a great thread. Just when the right wingers were drinking the kool-aid through a fire hose you break in with questions and reasoning and a link to a post that clearly refutes the legitimacy of every right wing talking point ("based in facts" my a$$). Just when the echo chamber was firing up and the high fives and back slaps were on the way you had to ruin the entertainment.

road kill
08-05-2010, 12:11 PM
Jeff and Paul,
Thanks for ruining a great thread. Just when the right wingers were drinking the kool-aid through a fire hose you break in with questions and reasoning and a link to a post that clearly refutes the legitimacy of every right wing talking point ("based in facts" my a$$). Just when the echo chamber was firing up and the high fives and back slaps were on the way you had to ruin the entertainment.


Yeah, that "From Left Field" blog is nothing but cred!!

You guys must be very proud!!:D

Curious, do you all read it every day??

Here, let me get you a stick to clean some of the bloggers "fact based well thought" stuff off of your shoes!!!!;-)



RK