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road kill
08-22-2010, 08:57 PM
"Democratic New York Gov. David Paterson has suggested that state land farther from ground zero be used for the center. Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, expressed some openness to that idea on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour," but said she would have to meet with the center's other "stakeholders" first."


http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated/19603484?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation% 2Farticle%2Fnew-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated%2F19603484

Why would we use "state land" for a Mosque??

You seperation of church and state folks must be agahst!!:shock:


Let the spin begin.........

RK

JDogger
08-22-2010, 09:48 PM
"Democratic New York Gov. David Paterson has suggested that state land farther from ground zero be used for the center. Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, expressed some openness to that idea on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour," but said she would have to meet with the center's other "stakeholders" first."


http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated/19603484?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation% 2Farticle%2Fnew-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated%2F19603484

Why would we use "state land" for a Mosque??

You seperation of church and state folks must be agahst!!:shock:


Let the spin begin.........

RK

God, figure it out for yourself Stan. We're all really tired of trying to hold your hand.

regards, JD

depittydawg
08-22-2010, 10:04 PM
"Democratic New York Gov. David Paterson has suggested that state land farther from ground zero be used for the center. Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, expressed some openness to that idea on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour," but said she would have to meet with the center's other "stakeholders" first."


http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated/19603484?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation% 2Farticle%2Fnew-york-city-mosque-rallies-over-mosque-near-ground-zero-get-heated%2F19603484

Why would we use "state land" for a Mosque??

You seperation of church and state folks must be agahst!!:shock:


Let the spin begin.........

RK
I'm a long ways from New York City. What they do is their business unless it comes into conflict with the Constitution or other federal laws. State lands are used for development all the time for many purposes.
On a personal level, I don't like Governments getting involved with religious activities.
I thought it was over the line when the Bush administration started cultivating support from the right wing Christian community, and then rewarding them with Huge Government grants. Way over the top. I have also read that Obama has expanded this practice. I think it is wrong for the federal government to do this.

zeus3925
08-22-2010, 11:21 PM
Public/private land swaps occur all the time.

precisionlabradors
08-23-2010, 12:17 AM
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YardleyLabs
08-23-2010, 06:46 AM
As noted in the NY Post story on this:


"If the sponsors were looking for property anywhere at a distance that would be such that it would accommodate a better feeling among the people who are frustrated, I would look into trying to provide them with the state property they would need," Paterson told reporters.
New York Gov. David Paterson

Paterson spokesman Morgan Hook later acknowledged the state must competitively sell state land by bidding, and couldn't simply "provide" it to a religious group.

He added that the state was not actively looking for a parcel to house the mosque and would not do so unless both sides in the controversy agreed."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gov_offers_land_for_mosque_if_it_YKrG1nuNaSdMbNuoZ 7IabM#ixzz0xQO23Fk4

ducknwork
08-23-2010, 06:53 AM
God, figure it out for yourself Stan. We're all really tired of trying to hold your hand.

regards, JD

Uncalled for...:roll:

I can't believe you guys are okay with this...

Stan, can you imagine the uproar if someone would have attempted to erect a cross on state land to honor dead americans?

road kill
08-23-2010, 07:32 AM
God, figure it out for yourself Stan. We're all really tired of trying to hold your hand.

regards, JD


JDogger said;


To the point at hand. To erect a 12 foot high cross on a public right-of -way, by the STATE POLICE on a federal or state roadway, does not keep in the spirit of the original intent. Now...if a private land-owner, behind his fence line, wishes to give consent, so be it. Then let them build it.

Mosque-like regards, Eh? JD

Eh??



RK

road kill
08-23-2010, 07:34 AM
if you ask a question is any democratic answer a spin? just askin

No it's not, I actually think DD gave a great answer.

It's spin when you say one thing and do another.



Maybe not!!;-)



RK

JDogger
08-23-2010, 09:02 AM
Eh??



RK



Paterson spokesman Morgan Hook later acknowledged the state must competitively sell state land by bidding, and couldn't simply "provide" it to a religious group.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gov_offers_land_for_mosque_if_it_YKrG1nuNaSdMbNuoZ 7IabM#ixzz0xQvLRJ2O


Once the land is transferred, it isn't "State land" anymore Stan.

Tell me even you can see the difference.

YardleyLabs
08-23-2010, 10:02 AM
Paterson spokesman Morgan Hook later acknowledged the state must competitively sell state land by bidding, and couldn't simply "provide" it to a religious group.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gov_offers_land_for_mosque_if_it_YKrG1nuNaSdMbNuoZ 7IabM#ixzz0xQvLRJ2O


Once the land is transferred, it isn't "State land" anymore Stan.

Tell me even you can see the difference.

Not only is it not state land, the state can only make the land available for sale, it cannot direct who is permitted to purchase it. The group building the mosque would need to be the high bidder. The state would have more latitude if this were a public project, but it is not.

dnf777
08-23-2010, 05:21 PM
I would have a problem with public property being given to any church of any denomination.

Additionally, how could the state support ANY organization that is not compliant with anti-discrimination laws? The BoyScouts of America were taken off the CFC campain (military version of United Way for the non-military types) because they prohibited gays. I understand we're talking state vs federal, but aren't the principles and laws basically similar?