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depittydawg
09-07-2010, 01:35 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/gen-petraeus-florida-quran-burning-will-endanger-us-troops/19622613?icid=main|main|dl1|sec1_lnk1|168790

Petreus warns of the idiotic Hatred of Muslims that is beseeching the nation. Anybody wonder why it is occurring now, 9 years after 9-11? Why now, when we are closer to Non-violence in the Middle East than we have been for 9 years? Why is this festering wound, that was well on the road of healing infected our country again?

Hew
09-07-2010, 03:49 AM
Gosh, it seems like only yesterday when you people were calling him "Betrayus." Now you think he hung the moon. :rolleyes:

subroc
09-07-2010, 07:00 AM
...Petreus warns of the idiotic Hatred of Muslims that is beseeching the nation. Anybody wonder why it is occurring now, 9 years after 9-11? Why now, when we are closer to Non-violence in the Middle East than we have been for 9 years? Why is this festering wound, that was well on the road of healing infected our country again?

maybe you could tell us the why.

could you point to all the healing around the middle east, especially in countries other than Iraq, you were talking about?

thanks

road kill
09-07-2010, 07:26 AM
maybe you could tell us the why.

could you point to all the healing around the middle east, especially in countries other than Iraq, you were talking about?

thanks

Yup, Iran and Israel are almost partners now!!

OOOPS, my bad, the tension between them is at an all time high, the absolute most dangerous situation on the planet at this moment...........


RK

dnf777
09-07-2010, 07:53 AM
Rather than jumping on the bandwagon of diversions and dodges that we typically see here, I'll repost from a different thread addressing the substance of the post.

this is just the kind of crap I'm afraid of. These nuts are determined to start a holy war, and may just succeed. I'm still wondering why all this Islamophobic behavior is just now surfacing? After 9-11, GWB made a valiant effort to quell such extremist reaction, now, it seems to be getting stirred up. Why is that?

Thank goodness Gen Petraeus and the Nat'l Assoc. of Evangelicals have the sense to discourage this kind of radical Christianity and hate-baiting.
So its not just Petraeus. Maybe the good Christians out there will pay attention to the NAE?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/06/flo...ex.html?hpt=T1

subroc
09-07-2010, 08:16 AM
If former President George W. Bush took action to prevent such things, could this be linked to obama's inaction?

Buzz
09-07-2010, 08:30 AM
Gosh, it seems like only yesterday when you people were calling him "Betrayus." Now you think he hung the moon. :rolleyes:

Great way to start the conversation. Throw a nice red herring out there.




this is just the kind of crap I'm afraid of. These nuts are determined to start a holy war, and may just succeed. I'm still wondering why all this Islamophobic behavior is just now surfacing? After 9-11, GWB made a valiant effort to quell such extremist reaction, now, it seems to be getting stirred up. Why is that?



http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/06/flo...ex.html?hpt=T1

One reason can be summed up in two words. Glenn Beck. I saw a best of Glenn Beck yesterday on FOX. That is one warped individual.

aandw
09-07-2010, 08:51 AM
any of you open minded middle of the roaders going to defend their right?
Lots of discussion on both ends of the issue regarding the building of an Islamic Mosque/Community Center at Ground Zero. Why or why not?
I hear lots of talk about "big goobermint" staying out of private business, and this outcry seems to contradict the laissez faire attitude. While most would agree they don't want it built, I'm just wondering if folks feel it is Constitutionally justified to deny them the right to build based on their religion, or if a special exception should be made to deny them that ability?

After re-reading the Constitution, I have to vote to let build, even though I think its a bad idea.
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road kill
09-07-2010, 09:15 AM
Let's see if I have this right.

This is OK,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY00NLnTRx8

This isn't,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1LHqfa_GLY&feature=related


RK

dnf777
09-07-2010, 09:17 AM
any of you open minded middle of the roaders going to defend their right?
Lots of discussion on both ends of the issue regarding the building of an Islamic Mosque/Community Center at Ground Zero. Why or why not?
I hear lots of talk about "big goobermint" staying out of private business, and this outcry seems to contradict the laissez faire attitude. While most would agree they don't want it built, I'm just wondering if folks feel it is Constitutionally justified to deny them the right to build based on their religion, or if a special exception should be made to deny them that ability?

After re-reading the Constitution, I have to vote to let build, even though I think its a bad idea.
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NOt sure why you reposted my comments, but they are still valid. According to the survey, most even on this list acknowledge their right to build. The question should be, how many open-minded AMERICANS will support their constitutional right.

road kill
09-07-2010, 09:21 AM
NOt sure why you reposted my comments, but they are still valid. According to the survey, most even on this list acknowledge their right to build. The question should be, how many open-minded AMERICANS will support their constitutional right.

If they (the financiers and builders) are American citizens, they have the right to build.
If they are not American citizens, I question the right.



RK

Buzz
09-07-2010, 09:21 AM
Let's see if I have this right.

This is OK,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY00NLnTRx8

This isn't,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1LHqfa_GLY&feature=related


RK


Burning a flag is a political statement. What would you call the burning of a "holy book."

dixidawg
09-07-2010, 09:23 AM
Burning a flag is a political statement. What would you call the burning of a "holy book."

Does it matter? and if so, why?


First amendment regards,

road kill
09-07-2010, 09:24 AM
Burning a flag is a political statement. What would you call the burning of a "holy book."

Since most Muslim countries are ruled by Muslims who abide by their interpretation of the Muslim Holy book, POLITICAL!!!

That flag means as much to me as that book means to them.

Don't beleive me?
Try burnin' an American flag in front of me.:D


RK

dnf777
09-07-2010, 09:25 AM
If they (the financiers and builders) are American citizens, they have the right to build.
If they are not American citizens, I question the right.



RK

How do you feel about all the Japanese-built and owned hotes in Hawaii? During the 50th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor, the majority of returning survivors had to stay in Japanese owned accomodations. How's that?

ducknwork
09-07-2010, 09:25 AM
Burning a flag is a political statement. What would you call the burning of a "holy book."

Both are pretty distasteful.

dnf777
09-07-2010, 09:29 AM
Burning a flag is a political statement. What would you call the burning of a "holy book."


While both acts may be protected under the first amendment, I would say you'd better be prepared to fight if you do either in public. And Duck has it right.......both are distasteful, and often motivated by hate.

ducknwork
09-07-2010, 09:30 AM
How do you feel about all the Japanese-built and owned hotes in Hawaii? During the 50th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor, the majority of returning survivors had to stay in Japanese owned accomodations. How's that?

I didn't realize that Japs worship the God that they kill infidels in the name of in hotels!

Wow, you learn something new every day!:D

dnf777
09-07-2010, 09:38 AM
I didn't realize that Japs worship the God that they kill infidels in the name of in hotels!

Wow, you learn something new every day!:D

Talk to WWII veterans.....you'll learn a lot more than you will on POTUS!

road kill
09-07-2010, 09:42 AM
Talk to WWII veterans.....you'll learn a lot more than you will on POTUS!
Good, maybe you could go talk to them for a few days.
I am sure they would love to hear what you have to say!!:rolleyes:



RK

road kill
09-07-2010, 09:43 AM
How do you feel about all the Japanese-built and owned hotes in Hawaii? During the 50th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor, the majority of returning survivors had to stay in Japanese owned accomodations. How's that?

Is that like a mosque??

Didn't think so.



RK

david gibson
09-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Talk to WWII veterans.....you'll learn a lot more than you will on POTUS!

most all wwII vets have forgiven the japanese and moved on in that respect, because they see they are not individuals full of eternal hate for americans. 50 yrs later and japan embraces our values.
big difference between that and islam, but i wouldnt expect for you to be able to grasp that concept.

gman0046
09-07-2010, 11:35 AM
One of the main problems is Obongolo has been jamming muslim nonsense down our throats. Such as the NASA muslim initiative, paying for the Ground Zero Imam trip to muslim countries and paying to build and renovate mosques on taxpayers money, failure to prosecute Muslim terrorists and supporting the Ground Zero mosque. Just wish I had a Koran to burn along with other Floridians.

Hew
09-07-2010, 01:50 PM
One reason can be summed up in two words. Glenn Beck. I saw a best of Glenn Beck yesterday on FOX. That is one warped individual.
You must have a king-sized bed to fit all those scary boogeymen who hide underneath it....Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck...they're all gonna git you, sucka.















"Boo! It's me! Glenn Beck!"

Gerry Clinchy
09-07-2010, 09:38 PM
Do the Japanese hotels have giant Japanese insignia to announce their presence over Pearl Harbor? Haven't been there, so don't know.

depittydawg
09-07-2010, 10:23 PM
Since most Muslim countries are ruled by Muslims who abide by their interpretation of the Muslim Holy book, POLITICAL!!!

That flag means as much to me as that book means to them.

Don't beleive me?
Try burnin' an American flag in front of me.:D


RK

So you're saying you understand their position and as such, you agree with Patraeus?

JDogger
09-07-2010, 11:08 PM
Let's see if I have this right.

This is OK,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY00NLnTRx8

This isn't,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1LHqfa_GLY&feature=related


RK

Let's see if I "get it" now, Stan. In your world, 'two wrongs make a right', and while we argue amongst ourselves, 'they' the terrorists, be they moslem terrorists (WTC), or good old boy terrorists (OK City), sit in their 'caves' and chortle, "lets keep 'em guessing, and at each others throats." "That way they'll never see us coming."

Good plan...Seems to be working for them.

It's got some of you so afraid.

JD

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." - Pogo.

But, why even try to reach you?

'They' have divided 'us'. In that respect 'they' won.

You know that, don't you?

Gerry Clinchy
09-07-2010, 11:51 PM
I can understand what the Genl is saying ... this will provide propaganda for the violent Muslims. It is repugnant for this guy in FL to use burning a sacred book as a "protest". Certainly, there have to be other ways to protest effectively.

But some irony, too ... the book burning (which kills no one, nor vandalizes anything), we have to be careful about, lest the nasty guys get all riled up so they take it out on some innocent people (not just our soldiers, I'd guess) and convince the Muslim nice guys that we're bad to the core. However, we should be "understanding" and tolerant when the nasty guys do their nasty things.

Seems similar to the "bleeping" of the name Mohammed on the television show, or not making much of a fuss when the French cartoonist has his life threatened. Want to make sure we don't send the nasty guys over the top.

Isn't it time for a lot of the nice-guy Muslims to speak up and tell the nasty guys they've had enough?

Meanwhile, people who voice objection to GZ mosque stage "normal" protests ... gathering peacefully, carrying signs, not breaking any law or burning sacred books. They're trying to voice and opinion, but for this they are called bigots and intolerant. Aren't those nasty Muslim guys just a little bit bigoted, too?

So, isn't it about time we heard from more of the few Muslims who have agreed that GZ mosque is not such a good idea; that it is hurtful to many US citizens & that pain should be recognized. The same people who readily say that the US is the best country in the world for them to live in because of its religious freedom.

I'd be really ticked off if the bad guys in my ethnic group were giving me a bad rep. I'm thnking that the nice guys believe the nasty guys would come after them and do some serious personal damage to them if they spoke up. So, it seems that the nasty guys get everybody to play by their rules by fear and intimidation.

If there are 1.5 billion Muslims, and most of them are nice guys ... and only a small number are nasty guys ... shouldn't the nice guys be able to handle those odds & clean their own house? Or is there some reason why they don't?

Joe Brakke
09-08-2010, 12:35 AM
Please pull this thread, this is the RTF not your political bulletin board!

JDogger
09-08-2010, 12:35 AM
I can understand what the Genl is saying ... this will provide propaganda for the violent Muslims. It is repugnant for this guy in FL to use burning a sacred book as a "protest". Certainly, there have to be other ways to protest effectively.

But some irony, too ... the book burning (which kills no one, nor vandalizes anything), we have to be careful about, lest the nasty guys get all riled up so they take it out on some innocent people (not just our soldiers, I'd guess) and convince the Muslim nice guys that we're bad to the core. However, we should be "understanding" and tolerant when the nasty guys do their nasty things.

Seems similar to the "bleeping" of the name Mohammed on the television show, or not making much of a fuss when the French cartoonist has his life threatened. Want to make sure we don't send the nasty guys over the top.

Isn't it time for a lot of the nice-guy Muslims to speak up and tell the nasty guys they've had enough?

Meanwhile, people who voice objection to GZ mosque stage "normal" protests ... gathering peacefully, carrying signs, not breaking any law or burning sacred books. They're trying to voice and opinion, but for this they are called bigots and intolerant. Aren't those nasty Muslim guys just a little bit bigoted, too?

So, isn't it about time we heard from more of the few Muslims who have agreed that GZ mosque is not such a good idea; that it is hurtful to many US citizens & that pain should be recognized. The same people who readily say that the US is the best country in the world for them to live in because of its religious freedom.

I'd be really ticked off if the bad guys in my ethnic group were giving me a bad rep. I'm thnking that the nice guys believe the nasty guys would come after them and do some serious personal damage to them if they spoke up. So, it seems that the nasty guys get everybody to play by their rules by fear and intimidation.

If there are 1.5 billion Muslims, and most of them are nice guys ... and only a small number are nasty guys ... shouldn't the nice guys be able to handle those odds & clean their own house? Or is there some reason why they don't?

Probably, Gerry for the same reason we are unable to thoroughly clean our own house of intolerence, bigotry, and hatred. Freedom of speech is not uniquely American.
Many have spoken out in objection to the proposed koran-burning, as is their right.
Many support it, as is their right.
To your last question....why don't we see more christians speaking out as well?

JD

ducknwork
09-08-2010, 06:30 AM
Please pull this thread, this is the RTF not your political bulletin board!

:confused:

Actually, this is the political section....:D

badbullgator
09-08-2010, 07:58 AM
One of the main problems is Obongolo has been jamming muslim nonsense down our throats. Such as the NASA muslim initiative, paying for the Ground Zero Imam trip to muslim countries and paying to build and renovate mosques on taxpayers money, failure to prosecute Muslim terrorists and supporting the Ground Zero mosque. Just wish I had a Koran to burn along with other Floridians.

Not Floridians, just a group of about 40 wacked out podunk hilljacks. This group is so small it is not even news worthy. It sure as hell is not Floridians any more than Texans were involved in Waco.

Who cares
let them burn them it is there right. I don't support them but most of all I REALLY DON'T CARE.

badbullgator
09-08-2010, 07:59 AM
Please pull this thread, this is the RTF not your political bulletin board!



Hummmmmm.....I think someone did not read what forum he opened ;)

Ken Bora
09-08-2010, 09:30 AM
Not Floridians, just a group of about 40 wacked out podunk hilljacks. This group is so small it is not even news worthy. It sure as hell is not Floridians any more than Texans were involved in Waco.
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Or any more than all Christians are ether polygamist child marriers or Klanís men.
Or any more than all Muslims are radical extreme terrorist murderers.

I think that Florida ďministerĒ and I use that term loosely, is a ____ for even wanting to burn books. Just as I feel the child marrying polygamists, hate filled Klansmen, radical Muslim terrorists murderers are also the same aforementioned _____ And while Iím at it donít forget the alter boys! That small group of Catholic Priests will be rolling in the same pit with the others in this post. Because they are all _____ !!!!!





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BrianW
09-08-2010, 09:57 AM
If what Lt Col Baumgartner (Ret) (former Gitmo warden) was saying last night is true, then the actual burning of the Koran is a moot point to the radicals. The fact that infidels have even touched "the holy book" in the 1st place is enough set the jihadists off on their next revenge mission. According to him, the captured prisoners would totally go off if the guards touched a Koran, even accidentally. Not just that prisoner, but the whole cell block. And a new copy had to be handed to them by a Muslim only.

But I want to ask, if it's SO holy, why was it ok for the prisoners to tear it up and flush it down the toilet? Where was the outrage over that? Why were there no "fatwa"s issued over that?
Only "the faithful" can desecrate "the holy book"?:rolleyes:

menmon
09-08-2010, 03:11 PM
I wonder if we have a muslim dog person amoung us? And if we do, what do you think they think of us?

We should think about other beliefs and feelings before we start throwing this crap around. Over the years I have had the pleasure to know some fine people that were muslim, and I assure you they were kind good hearted people, but I can only imagine what it feels like to live in America (the home of free...meaning freedom of religion) and have to hear this crap which is intended only for political gain. In other words, ralley the igorant to vote.

road kill
09-08-2010, 03:13 PM
I wonder if we have a muslim dog person amoung us? And if we do, what do you think they think of us?

We should think about other beliefs and feelings before we start throwing this crap around. Over the years I have had the pleasure to know some fine people that were muslim, and I assure you they were kind good hearted people, but I can only imagine what it feels like to live in America (the home of free...meaning freedom of religion) and have to hear this crap which is intended only for political gain. In other words, ralley the igorant to vote.

Do they have a message board??




RK

gman0046
09-08-2010, 03:25 PM
Sorry folks, the supposed moderate muslims are the ones insensitive enough to want to build a mosque on ground zero. What do you think the militant ones want to do to Americans? Does 9/11 ring a bell? What's with the muslim thing besides being politically correct along with the muslim supporter Obongolo?

You won't find any muslims owning dogs as they "are unclean" in their eyes.

menmon
09-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Sorry folks, the supposed moderate muslims are the ones insensitive enough to want to build a mosque on ground zero. What do you think the militant ones want to do to Americans? Does 9/11 ring a bell? What's with the muslim thing besides being politically correct along with the muslim supporter Obongolo?

You won't find any muslims owning dogs as they "are unclean" in their eyes.

I worked in NYC right beside the twin towers with muslims. I assure you they did not have anything to do with it. I lost friends that day too, some of which were muslims. So what you are saying is only Christians were effected by 9/11. All this is intended to do is rally the igorant. This mosque is out of sight of ground zero to begin with, but some people have made sure that it is in your sight.

Buzz
09-08-2010, 03:42 PM
I worked with engineers of many different religions when I was at Siemens. Four of them were Muslim, and they were all very nice people. I had a gastroenterologist who practiced Islam, and he treated me with great respect and compassion. My dad had heart surgery by a Muslim doctor at Cleveland Clinic. He was one of the best heart surgeons in the world for the particular surgery dad had. Same deal, he treated him with respect and compassion, and dad is doing well today because of him. He's currently planning a deer hunting trip to the UP of Michigan, then a pheasant hunt with me here in SD.

Nice to see you Sambo. Hope the ranch is coming along nicely!

dnf777
09-08-2010, 03:49 PM
I worked with engineers of many different religions when I was at Siemens. Four of them were Muslim, and they were all very nice people. I had a gastroenterologist who practiced Islam, and he treated me with great respect and compassion. My dad had heart surgery by a Muslim doctor at Cleveland Clinic. He was one of the best heart surgeons in the world for the particular surgery dad had. Same deal, he treated him with respect and compassion, and dad is doing well today because of him. He's currently planning a deer hunting trip to the UP of Michigan, then a pheasant hunt with me here in SD.



I have had the privelage to work along side some very gifted surgeons. Christians, Jews, Muslims, deists.... All very very compassionate, cared for their patients like family, and have my respect and admiration.

Those who choose to fill their hearts with hatred, fear, or ignorance will live empty lives, and probably offer little to those around them...except those willing to buy into the negativity. I really don't care what they do or think, except when it has potential to affect the rest of us, such as this idiotic, hate-motivated Koran burning. This guy is no better than the Islamist extremists who would burn Bibles.

Gerry Clinchy
09-08-2010, 03:56 PM
To your last question....why don't we see more christians speaking out as well?

JD, I think many are doing just that.

The voices in favor of GZ mosque are just as loud as those against. And many of those in favor are in positions of influence & power. The opponents have been the object of more epithets than those in favor.

The NY Times today has an article emphasizing that this nutso preacher burning Korans has a congregation of less than 40 ... and other clergy have been trying to convince him not to do it. Nearly a dozen opposition protests of his action are planned in Gainesville. Kudos to the people of Gainesville.

While the US may be predominantly Christian (I don't have the numbers), Amercans of many beliefs (or lack thereof) will still stand up for freedoms of speech and religion and condemnation of those who try to squelch those freedoms.

I don't know, but did any Muslims gather (in the US or elsewhere) to loudly and publicly condemn the Muslim terrorists and A-Q for their violent ways?

dnf777
09-08-2010, 04:20 PM
Good, maybe you could go talk to them for a few days.
I am sure they would love to hear what you have to say!!:rolleyes:



RK

You may roll your eyes all you want, but I have had the privilege to care for veterans in VA hospitals and Army Medical Centers. I have listened to their stories from Pearl Harbor survivors to Bataan survivors. Those are life's moments that I will forever treasure. Having the opportunity to care for them and their spouses is an honor that I can't describe. Life is full of wonderful, positive experiences. Those who dwell on hatred and discrimination are really wasting ATP.

Uncle Bill
09-08-2010, 05:50 PM
NOt sure why you reposted my comments, but they are still valid. According to the survey, most even on this list acknowledge their right to build. The question should be, how many open-minded AMERICANS will support their constitutional right.


NOT ME. This is NOT about their "constitutional right", and even as naieve as you seem to appear on most issues, it's my bet even you understand why.

UB


Since you haven't replied, let me add this as my profound view of that situation:








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcXDnRM2i4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcXDnRM2i4)

Doug Kennedy
09-08-2010, 11:38 PM
Wouldn't the best thing for everyone be a total MEDIA blackout of this crazy person and his actions...but I guess that wouldn't make any new News

BrianW
09-09-2010, 09:23 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_quran_burning_obama_plea

"And as a very practical matter, I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women who are in uniform," the president added
Obama said, Look, this is a recruitment bonanza for Al Qaida. You could have serious violence in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan." The president also said Jones' plan, if carried out, could serve as an incentive for terrorist-minded individuals "to blow themselves up" to kill others.

So where does it stop?

Substitute the word "movie", "book", "cartoon", "TV show", "POTUS Place" or any number of things that "could" or actually do upset the type of Muslims that behead, shoot, blow up or otherwise kill our soldiers and civilians. Do we stop the rest of our society because they get upset or offended? Imams preach about our "decadent Western civilization" all the time and how that justifies jihad.

This type of "reasoning" basically surrenders to shariah imo. Now I'm not saying that this "burning" is the right thing to do (personally i think it's pretty stupid) but not do it because of this "could" scenario, just gives more fuel to the fire, so to speak.

Hew
09-09-2010, 11:46 AM
So where does it stop?

Substitute the word "movie", "book", "cartoon", "TV show", "POTUS Place" or any number of things that "could" or actually do upset the type of Muslims that behead, shoot, blow up or otherwise kill our soldiers and civilians. Do we stop the rest of our society because they get upset or offended? Imams preach about our "decadent Western civilization" all the time and how that justifies jihad.

This type of "reasoning" basically surrenders to shariah imo. Now I'm not saying that this "burning" is the right thing to do (personally i think it's pretty stupid) but not do it because of this "could" scenario, just gives more fuel to the fire, so to speak.
Exactly. I'm sick of the rest of the world having to treat Muslims/Muslim countries like they're a bunch of six year olds. From having to watch what we say, write or draw cartoons of to saving them from poverty (Palestinians), annihilation from others (Bosnians), starvation (Somalia) or natural disasters (Pakistan). It's about time that they grew up, got up from the little kid's folding card table and joined the adults at the banquet table where we don't throw acid in our teenager's face because they rejected the 14 year old we picked as their husband, don't stone women for adultery, don't hang homosexuals from cranes and don't keep our young girls ignorant and illiterate. I think I speak for the rest of civilized society when I tell Muslims you've got bigger fish to fry than worrying about some idiot and the 30-something dolts who follow him burning a Koran.

Gerry Clinchy
09-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Heard on the radio ... Pastor and Imam have spoken to each other & are going to meet.

Pastor says he won't burn the Korans if Imam will move the mosque. Donald Trump has said he will buy out the investor interest in the land w/25% bonus to defuse the situation. Pastor said that the Imam has agreed ... but report said that has not been confirmed by Imam.

Everybody gets to "save face" ...

Gerry Clinchy
09-09-2010, 07:43 PM
Caller on the Medved show recalled: When a soldier was found in possession of Bibles printed in Afghan languages, in A'stan, the Bibles were confiscated (against military policy to prosletyze). The military (our govt) destroyed them with the regular garbage ... all of which is burned. Pope didn't vow to have a holy war. Even the most conservative Christians didn't threaten murders or beheadings. In fact, I had forgotten the incident. Is that a fair comparison?

As far as I can tell, not one spokesperson, anywhere, has condoned the Pastor's proposed Koran-burning.