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Uncle Bill
09-20-2010, 10:50 AM
While you buy into all the MSP tells you about Obama completing "his campaign promise" concerning pulling the troops out in August 2010, check this out. You won't read it in your favorite lefty Times.

UB




THIS IS FROM A GOOD FRIEND. Hey, everybody! I just wanted to send a quick update and give y'all the REAL story on what's going on over here with the troop withdrawal.




The reason I'm sending this out is because I have had a few people ask if I left Iraq early because all of the combat troops are out of Iraq and I wanted to let everyone know the real deal.




It's kind of ridiculous how the news is saying that the last of the "combat" troops are out of Iraq because of Pres Obama. He says that it was his campaign promise.



Take our Brigade for example. We were originally called a HBCT (Heavy Brigade Combat Team). Well, since Obama said he would pull all of the "combat" troops out by August, all they did before we left was change our name from a HBCT to a AAB (Advise and Assist Brigade). We have the same personnel/equipment layout as before and are doing the same missions. The ONLY difference is that they changed our name from a HBCT to an AAB and that's how he is getting away with saying that he has pulled all of the "combat" troops out.



It is really ridiculous what he's doing and he has ticked a lot of people off. And it's funny how the media is buying all of it, too. So no, the last combat troops are not out of Iraq. We are still here.



There are other Brigades just like ours that are doing the same missions that are still over here. Sorry for going on about it but we are just sitting over here watching it and are like "You've got to be kidding me!" So anyway now you know the REAL story, so that's why I'm not coming back early. You have to watch those liberals, they're sneaky! Anyways I hope everyone is doing well and I'll see you soon! Sonny D.

YardleyLabs
09-20-2010, 11:42 AM
I love anonymous email messages, circulated throughout conservaive circles and posted on hundreds of right wing web sites with no citation of authorship or and basis for verifying accuracy. Makes you wonder who, in what PR, is being paid to author the messages and get them out on the web.

What happened in August was a solid achievement, of which little was actually made by the White house (Obama was on vacation during the announcement, and there were no "Mission Accomplished" banners.).

Since taking office, the Obama administration has redcued troop levels in Iraq by 94,000 troops. Of the 50,000 still there, about 20,000 were moved in into Advise and Assist Battalions similar to those described in the email message. That information was published by the Administration very openly, so it is hard to see where spin doctors have been involved. Where the spin doctors have been at work is trying, on one hand, to act as if the reduction had nothing to do with the administration, while simultaneously accusing the administration of endangering the mission in Iraq because of the reduction in troop levels.

Uncle Bill
09-20-2010, 12:20 PM
Comes as zero surprise that YOU, Mr. Yardley, would be the first sycophant to reply.

And YOU don't understand the 'spin'???? YOU ARE the spin.

UB

dnf777
09-20-2010, 03:21 PM
Comes as zero surprise that YOU, Mr. Yardley, would be the first sycophant to reply.

And YOU don't understand the 'spin'???? YOU ARE the spin.

UB


comes also as zero surpise that you re-post others words. In this case, an obvious tea-party, anti-obama propaganda snippet.

Anything I read on the internet (or girlie magazine forum) that starts with:

1) I never thought this would happen to me...
2) I'm just telling this because I thought you'd appreciate it
3) My uncle in Uganda needs help claiming his fortune
4) Hey, everybody! I just wanted to send a quick update and give y'all the REAL story on what's going on with.......

I'm sure you believe all of the above, but please, spare the rest of us!

M&K's Retrievers
09-20-2010, 03:39 PM
spare the rest of us!

Speak for yourself...

road kill
09-20-2010, 03:54 PM
spare the rest of us!


Who is US, do you have a mouse in your pocket???:confused:


RK

david gibson
09-20-2010, 04:13 PM
yeah, like a grunt (meant in the most complimentary means - the "grunts" do the dirty work and are my heros - the heart and soul of a soldier) would sign his name to that so that
the least qualified commander in chief in history could seek him out and silence him?

well, give it time. from what i have read if anyone thinks combat missions are over in Iraq then you are, well......as spindrunk as yardley and little yardley

dnf777
09-20-2010, 05:21 PM
Speak for yourself...

Sorry. thought you and RK were smarter than to believe anonymous internet posts that begin: Hey, everybody! I just wanted to send a quick update and give y'all the REAL story on what's going on....

You don't REALLY believe that's genuine.....DO YOU??



And no, RK, that's not a mouse in my pocket.....but thanks for askin'. :shock:

YardleyLabs
09-20-2010, 05:53 PM
Comes as zero surprise that YOU, Mr. Yardley, would be the first sycophant to reply.

And YOU don't understand the 'spin'???? YOU ARE the spin.

UB
And yet, UB, you haven't responded to a single component of my post. The fact of 20,000 troops being assigned to A&A battalions was announced by the White House and the Pentagon as an integral part of the cessation of primary combat responsibilities. At no point has anyone attempted to minimize the risks of increased violence. Based on that, the statements in your fictitious email post that the administration is trying to play some sort of 3-card monte game is false. The fact that 94,000 troops have been withdrawn is equally uncontested. Given that, your entire post is a simple case of Onanism -- most people try to do that sort of thing in private.:rolleyes:

road kill
09-20-2010, 06:07 PM
And yet, UB, you haven't responded to a single component of my post. The fact of 20,000 troops being assigned to A&A battalions was announced by the White House and the Pentagon as an integral part of the cessation of primary combat responsibilities. At no point has anyone attempted to minimize the risks of increased violence. Based on that, the statements in your fictitious email post that the administration is trying to play some sort of 3-card monte game is false. The fact that 94,000 troops have been withdrawn is equally uncontested. Given that, your entire post is a simple case of Onanism -- most people try to do that sort of thing in private.:rolleyes:


dnf777 said; And no, RK, that's not a mouse in my pocket.....but thanks for askin'.



You guys always seem proccupied with the strangest things.



RK

depittydawg
09-20-2010, 08:42 PM
While you buy into all the MSP tells you about Obama completing "his campaign promise" concerning pulling the troops out in August 2010, check this out. You won't read it in your favorite lefty Times.

UB




THIS IS FROM A GOOD FRIEND. Hey, everybody! I just wanted to send a quick update and give y'all the REAL story on what's going on over here with the troop withdrawal.




The reason I'm sending this out is because I have had a few people ask if I left Iraq early because all of the combat troops are out of Iraq and I wanted to let everyone know the real deal.




It's kind of ridiculous how the news is saying that the last of the "combat" troops are out of Iraq because of Pres Obama. He says that it was his campaign promise.



Take our Brigade for example. We were originally called a HBCT (Heavy Brigade Combat Team). Well, since Obama said he would pull all of the "combat" troops out by August, all they did before we left was change our name from a HBCT to a AAB (Advise and Assist Brigade). We have the same personnel/equipment layout as before and are doing the same missions. The ONLY difference is that they changed our name from a HBCT to an AAB and that's how he is getting away with saying that he has pulled all of the "combat" troops out.



It is really ridiculous what he's doing and he has ticked a lot of people off. And it's funny how the media is buying all of it, too. So no, the last combat troops are not out of Iraq. We are still here.



There are other Brigades just like ours that are doing the same missions that are still over here. Sorry for going on about it but we are just sitting over here watching it and are like "You've got to be kidding me!" So anyway now you know the REAL story, so that's why I'm not coming back early. You have to watch those liberals, they're sneaky! Anyways I hope everyone is doing well and I'll see you soon! Sonny D.

I don't doubt this may be correct. But it wouldn't surprise me if it was fabricated either. IMHO, Obama failed to deliver on his promise to end the Iraq debacle. And his escalation of military operations in Afghanistan is a disgusting lack of leadership on his part also.

M&K's Retrievers
09-20-2010, 10:27 PM
You don't REALLY believe that's genuine.....

Doesn't matter just didn't need for you to be making any decisions on my behalf.

dnf777
09-21-2010, 04:51 AM
Doesn't matter just didn't need for you to be making any decisions on my behalf.

It wasn't. You are not, nor are potus posters, the only people in the world.

And it does matter. If you actually believe something like that, it changes my estimation of you. Believe it or not, even though we often disagree, I hold your opinions in high esteem, and respect your views. I read and pay attention to your comments, unlike some other parrots who only repost others' propaganda clips. Now if you were to believe fourm letters that begin like that, from that source....well....I don't know you, but I think I know you better than that!

Hew
09-21-2010, 05:46 AM
It wasn't. You are not, nor are potus posters, the only people in the world.

And it does matter. If you actually believe something like that, it changes my estimation of you.
Well then, why don't you refute what the email claims? The fact is, as even Yardley has already told you TWICE in this thread alone, is that military units have indeed had their designations changed just ahead of drawdown "deadline." You may not like the commentary given in the email UB posted, but the statements of fact in that email are indeed consistent with the facts (even if you don't like those facts).

YardleyLabs
09-21-2010, 06:05 AM
Well then, why don't you refute what the email claims? The fact is, as even Yardley has already told you TWICE in this thread alone, is that military units have indeed had their designations changed just ahead of drawdown "deadline." You may not like the commentary given in the email UB posted, but the statements of fact in that email are indeed consistent with the facts (even if you don't like those facts).
The distinction is that it was done as an announced part of the drawdown to reflect the change in mission, not as a subterfuge. The drawdown is real, as measured by the reduction in troops. The only ones who have made a big deal of it are from the right, and they can't make up their minds. As I noted before, on one hand they complain that the drawdown by Obama threatens our security. On the other, they argue that Obama had nothing to do with making it happen. Mostly, of course, both arguments are simply place savers,waiting to be pulled out to attack the administration depending on whether the withdrawal appears to succeed or fail.

dnf777
09-21-2010, 07:14 AM
Well then, why don't you refute what the email claims? The fact is, as even Yardley has already told you TWICE in this thread alone, is that military units have indeed had their designations changed just ahead of drawdown "deadline." You may not like the commentary given in the email UB posted, but the statements of fact in that email are indeed consistent with the facts (even if you don't like those facts).

Because many posters here, including yourself, put their own thought and effort into comments and posts, that deserve consideration and discussion, rather than fictitous, propaganda from radical web sites that are mindlessly re-posted here.

I choose to respond to people who put thought into their comments, even if we disagree. Case in point! :D

Uncle Bill
09-21-2010, 06:37 PM
The distinction is that it was done as an announced part of the drawdown to reflect the change in mission, not as a subterfuge. The drawdown is real, as measured by the reduction in troops. The only ones who have made a big deal of it are from the right, and they can't make up their minds. As I noted before, on one hand they complain that the drawdown by Obama threatens our security. On the other, they argue that Obama had nothing to do with making it happen. Mostly, of course, both arguments are simply place savers,waiting to be pulled out to attack the administration depending on whether the withdrawal appears to succeed or fail.


What a guppy you've become. It's sooooo EZ to tweak you. You and your lefty crowd are so afraid of what is happening to your oligarchy, you have become lunatics in your anxiety to fall on the sword for your pathetically ignorant and flawed leadership.

As to your insertion of "Onanism"...that's hilarious! Capitalized no less. Guess one needs to be atheist to understand the ramifications of that. oops, didn't mean to 'rub it in'.:rolleyes: