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RedlegHunter
09-28-2010, 09:36 AM
Anybody using the Bird's Up Launchers by Retriever Specialists? Looking for some input good, bad or indifferent. Thanks.

****Thanks for the initial input. Just some additional info. I am an amatuer training my first lab. She is titled at Seasoned level and has 1 Finished Pass. She is trained, and handled by me. I do not intend to run FTs but will continue to participate in HTs both HRC and AKC when I return from Afghanistan. I am looking for some reliable launchers that will enable me to train solo as required but will not break the bank. I like the Gunners Up and Zingers but see that I can get two Bird's Up for the cost of about 1 of the others with remotes. I train 3-4 mornings a week with 2-3 dogs, can I expect the Bird's Up to hold up? My biggest concern when looking at the website was the durability of the remote. Thanks again for any input.****

Ken Newcomb
09-28-2010, 01:59 PM
Your money is better spent elsewhere

J. Walker
09-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Anybody using the Bird's Up Launchers by Retriever Specialists? Looking for some input good, bad or indifferent. Thanks.

I have two and they have worked flawlessly. They're really easy to carry and set up and they take up virtually no room in a vehicle. You could probably carry eight of them in the trunk of a Honda Civic and I'm not kidding. The only negative is that the transmitter is pretty chintzy. It works fine but it's doubtful it could withstand any significant fall onto a hard surface so it's a good thing it's on a lanyard. One little quirk is that if the battery in the launcher starts running low, it may work on one channel but not another. In other words, if you have the launcher set on the "A" channel and press the "A" button on the transmitter, it may not launch but may launch (at least for a little while) on "D"/"D." If you keep the units charged, this is a non-issue. I love the fact that you don't need almost perfectly flat spots or uniform slopes to position them. The footprint of the unit is so small and the weight is so low that you can put one almost anywhere.

They will launch a 3" Hallmark bumper (heavier than most brands) 20-25 yards and a duck about 15-20 yards with a full rubber stretch (post collars set just about as low as they can go on the arms.) You can set the post collars at whatever level of rubber tension you want. If you want to launch one bird 20 yards and another one 10 yards to hit a specific spot, you can easily do that.

At some point, I'll definitely buy another one of these launchers.

J. Walker
09-28-2010, 02:17 PM
Your money is better spent elsewhere

Have you actually owned one of these or are you just giving an opinion based on an impression? I got these because I had almost taken a few hits to the teeth with the other types of launchers when the trigger mechanism looked fully engaged but wasn't. Space was also an issue.

I've gotten more consistent performance out of them than most of the other launchers I've been around in which I've seen them not launch with heavy cover or a few small trees from only 150-200 yards away.

Ken Newcomb
09-28-2010, 03:29 PM
No I haven't owned one but I have been asked to judge a Hunt Test using them. They were very inconsistent, they launched inconsistently, the remotes are some kind of el cheapo thingy. After lots of frustration we got rid of them and set up my gunner's up and the test ran smoothly after that.

Jerry S.
09-28-2010, 03:30 PM
I had two of them and ended up selling them and buying Gunner's Up. They were okay but as stated the remote was very cheap. A Gunner's Up with TT electronics is infinitely better IMHO.

elingler
09-28-2010, 05:31 PM
i have 2 and i love them the remote is alittle cheap. but your never going to find a unit that everyone like or dont have some problem with

J. Walker
09-28-2010, 09:42 PM
No I haven't owned one but I have been asked to judge a Hunt Test using them. They were very inconsistent, they launched inconsistently, the remotes are some kind of el cheapo thingy. After lots of frustration we got rid of them and set up my gunner's up and the test ran smoothly after that.

Inconsistent?? I only use mine five or six days a week and have yet to have either launcher misfire or launch inconsistently whereas I've seen the Gunner's Up type wingers misfire and fail to launch a number of times. Now, as with any launcher, if someone isn't loading the pouch properly and leaves something hanging out, you can always have the rope of a bumper or the head of a duck catch an arm or a band slightly on the way up and out. I've worked with Tangelo type launchers, Gunner's Up, and the Bird's Up launchers, carrying them, setting them up, and actually using them. Even with the transmitter issue, I'd take the Bird's Up every time. The last time I was manning a Tangelo type launcher with Tri-tronics electronics (and I'm a Tri-tronics collar guy), the guy at the line with the remote, about 125 yards away, was having to hold the transmitter above his head to get it to launch. The same thing happened with another friend and his Gunner's Up from about 150 yards away. I've had no such issues with the Bird's Up. This seems to be one of those Ford versus Chevy issues though.