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road kill
09-29-2010, 03:49 PM
"Democrats seeking to boost voter turnout this fall are beginning to sound like the late comedian Chris Farley's portrayal of a "motivational speaker" on Saturday Night Live. Farley's character sought to inspire young people by announcing that they wouldn't amount to "jack squat" and would someday be "living in a van down by the river."

Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, who prefers sailing vessels to vans by the river, recently tried out the Farley method. Said Mr. Kerry, "We have an electorate that doesn't always pay that much attention to what's going on so people are influenced by a simple slogan rather than the facts or the truth or what's happening." Bay State voters are surely thrilled to be represented by a man so respectful of their concerns.

This week President Obama chimed in with another uplifting message about the American electorate. Mr. Obama told Rolling Stone that the tea party movement is financed and directed by "powerful, special-interest lobbies." But this doesn't mean that tea party groups are composed entirely of corporate puppets. Mr. Obama graciously implied that a small subset of the movement is simply motivated by bigotry.

President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President Joe Biden
The President said "there are probably some aspects of the Tea Party that are a little darker, that have to do with anti-immigrant sentiment or are troubled by what I represent as the President." The tea party is now supported by a third of the country in some polls.

Perhaps advocates for smaller government shouldn't take Mr. Obama's comments personally. In the new Democratic attacks on the voting public, not even Democrats are spared. Vice President Joe Biden recently urged the party's base to "stop whining" and "buck up," a message echoed by Mr. Obama in his Rolling Stone interview. The President demanded that his supporters "shake off this lethargy," warning that it would be "inexcusable" for liberals to stay home on Election Day.

Mr. Obama added that "if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren't serious in the first place." Making the case for left-wing voters to show up in November, Mr. Obama told Rolling Stone that he is presiding over "the most successful administration in a generation in moving progressive agendas forward."

We'd agree, but his problem is that most Americans don't like that agenda and millions of voters in both parties wanted him to oversee an economic expansion instead. Blaming the voters is not unheard of among politicians, but usually they wait until after an election. "

It's kind of fun watching these KLOWNS come unglued.:D


Gerry Clinchy
09-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Sounds like a sure-fire vote-getter: Tell the electorate they don't know much. Tell 'em to come out and vote for "us".

I really am getting annoyed with the "heresay" about Tea Party groups. I actually belong to one ... although "belonging" is a loose definition. I simply subscribe to their "group" the way I subscribe to RTF.

This group does intelligent things ... they have groups that study things like The Federalist Papers, or Ayn Rand, the Constitution, or the methods advocated by Saul Alinsky. They prepare questionnaires for local candidates and then distribute the answers to the group. They endorse "positions" rather than candidates. They do not allow candidates to distribute campaign literature at their meetings. They have staged peaceful, polite demonstrations in favor of or opposing pieces of legislation at the offices of local legislators.

I have never noted ANY indication of bigotry in any of their activities, policies or positions. I have seen no far right, wing-nut views espoused in this group. I'm persuaded that while there may be some wing-nuts out there, they are not necessarily the norm for those who support "Tea Party" or "9-12" groups.

These appear to be citizens who are taking constructive action to understand the issues and the views of the candidates they will vote for ... or not vote for.

Yes, they tend to be conservative in their views, most especially in fiscal matters. They are actually doing the things that voters should be doing

They call themselves a 9-12 group ... a name used because of the attitude of Americans that emerged on the day after 9-11 ... flying the flag; being considerate to each other; putting aside petty differences to embrace those things which make us one nation. The kind of unity that was seen in the vigils around Ground Zero after 9-11.

Obviously, Kerry, Obama and Biden haven't interacted with these people on a personal level. If they did, they might be surprised at who these people are & what their views are. These citizens, for the most part, do not deserve the negativistic "labels" that these three politicians are assigning to these groups.

In fact, one might say that the bigotry is on the part of those making the negative statements ... depicting those who disagree with them as being the "bad guys".

Perhaps the thing that scares this politicians ... Rs and Ds alike ... is that this voter group is not beholden to a "party"; they are beholden to principles. The fact that these groups are diffuse means that it's not readily possible to "buy" their votes by throwing them some pieces of pork. That must be REALLY, REALLY disturbing to politicians :-)

Sorry ... off my soapbox on this ...

09-30-2010, 06:18 AM
Said Mr. Kerry, "We have an electorate that doesn't always pay that much attention to what's going on so people are influenced by a simple slogan rather than the facts or the truth or what's happening."


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