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subroc
10-23-2010, 07:34 AM
from the "you can't make this stuff up file"

a union member is fired for wearing a shirt with an image of a naval ship that honors former president George H. W. Bush.

http://blogs.ktla.com/news_custom_eric/2010/10/man-fired-for-wearing-bush-sweatshirt-at-obama-rally.html

cotts135
10-23-2010, 09:00 AM
Show's that their are idiots on both sides. By the way he has been rehired and will be payed for the day he was told to leave.

subroc
10-23-2010, 09:05 AM
my point for the post is to illustrate the intolerance of the left that is rearing it's ugly head more and more every day. another example is the Juan Williams firing (there is already a thread on that subject).

Blackstone
10-23-2010, 09:11 AM
Not honoring the military has nothing to do with this story. This man’s union boss felt the shirt and hat were inappropriate to wear at an Obama rally for obvious reasons, and it had nothing to do with honoring, or not honoring, the military. The guy should have realized that when he put it on. If he didn’t, he should have understood when it was pointed out to him. He chose not to turn the shirt inside out or remove it, and it cost him. I don’t know if that is grounds for firing him, but he will need to work that out with his union.

subroc
10-23-2010, 09:29 AM
Not honoring the military has nothing to do with this story. This man’s union boss felt the shirt and hat were inappropriate to wear at an Obama rally for obvious reasons, and it had nothing to do with honoring, or not honoring, the military. The guy should have realized that when he put it on. If he didn’t, he should have understood when it was pointed out to him. He chose not to turn the shirt inside out or remove it, and it cost him. I don’t know if that is grounds for firing him, but he will need to work that out with his union.


I read the story. Why would anyone deem it inappropriate to see the name of a former president at any kind of rally?

Where is the logic?

Can I take my money out of my pocket at an obama rally? After all, there are actually names and images of former presidents printed on the money?

BTW, what are the "for obvious reasons?"

depittydawg
10-23-2010, 10:57 AM
my point for the post is to illustrate the intolerance of the left that is rearing it's ugly head more and more every day. another example is the Juan Williams firing (there is already a thread on that subject).

Well I guess if you consider we resent bankrupting the country, illegal, unjustified, and very expensive Wars in far away places, corruption on Wall Street and in Washington, shipping our technologies and our jobs overseas, a third rate healthcare system... Yeah I guess you could call us intolerant at this point. At least some of us.

Blackstone
10-23-2010, 11:08 AM
I read the story. Why would anyone deem it inappropriate to see the name of a former president at any kind of rally?

Where is the logic?

Can I take my money out of my pocket at an obama rally? After all, there are actually names and images of former presidents printed on the money?

BTW, what are the "for obvious reasons?"

I would not show up to work at a Democratic Presidential rally wearing Republican Presidential emblems or clothing or vice-versa. I would not show up to work at a Tea Party Rally wearing an Obama shirt. Would I have the right to do so, probably? But, it would be in poor taste.

The "obvious" reason is that it could easily be construed as a political statement. I am sure that is what his union boss wanted to avoid.

I have customers that are staunch Republicans and some that are staunch Democrats. I never wear any politically affiliated pens or attire when I call on them, or to any business function. I do not even discuss politics with them. I keep business on a business level, and keep my politics separate.

signgirl
10-23-2010, 11:27 AM
I heard Mr. Hammond being interviewed yesterday. He said there was rain predicted for the set up time so he wore his sweat shirt for the set up and had the standard stage hand all black 'event' clothes to change into. He also said he felt it was co workers who lodged the complaint, and they knew he would be changing clothes for the actual event.

dnf777
10-23-2010, 01:25 PM
Not honoring the military has nothing to do with this story. This manís union boss felt the shirt and hat were inappropriate to wear at an Obama rally for obvious reasons, and it had nothing to do with honoring, or not honoring, the military. The guy should have realized that when he put it on. If he didnít, he should have understood when it was pointed out to him. He chose not to turn the shirt inside out or remove it, and it cost him. I donít know if that is grounds for firing him, but he will need to work that out with his union.

Agreed. In today's political environment, that shirt was clearly more of a political statement in support of the Bush name, than supporting the navy or one of its ships. If you saw that shirt from more than 20 feet away, you wouldn't even know it was referring to the Navy, the ship's name, or even the carrier itself.

I myself would proudly wear that shirt with no problem. But not to an Obama rally. Nor would I be at an obama rally in the first place.

It would be like going to a Palin party with "BAMA" emblazoned across your shirt. Then in tiny crimson letters beneath, "roll tide".

I'm glad the guy got his pay and job back. And it indeed shows idiots on both sides of the issue.

Buzz
10-23-2010, 02:52 PM
Stuff never happened in connection with Bush rallies... :rolleyes:


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-07-23-bush-protesters_x.htm

http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/000618.html

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/bumper-sticker-speech/


http://current.com/shows/current-tonight/90794074_double-standard-at-obama-and-bush-rallies.htm


Hypocrisy knows no bounds...

luvmylabs23139
10-23-2010, 05:31 PM
Not honoring the military has nothing to do with this story. This manís union boss felt the shirt and hat were inappropriate to wear at an Obama rally for obvious reasons, and it had nothing to do with honoring, or not honoring, the military. The guy should have realized that when he put it on. If he didnít, he should have understood when it was pointed out to him. He chose not to turn the shirt inside out or remove it, and it cost him. I donít know if that is grounds for firing him, but he will need to work that out with his union.

Actually it most likely is grounds for him filing a lawsuit. He was hired to do a job. I bet nothing in his contract states nor can state a political preference.
I will also bet money he did not violate any official dress code.
Whether one considers it bad taste or not is not what applies in this matter.
This is strictly a matter of employment laws.
If any employee was wearing anything pro Obama and not treated the same he does have grounds based on employment laws to file a lawsuit.

Blackstone
10-23-2010, 05:50 PM
He may have grounds to sue. I don't know. However, according to him, his union made the call on his inappropriate dress. If, as stated, they have an "all black" dress code for the event, they are dictating what attire is appropriate. There are a lot of contracts that have clauses regarding any inappropriate behavior that would cause harm to the reputation of the employing entity. Some have rules against making political statements or expressions. I do not know if that is the case here. However, if IATSE wants the chance to place worker in a variety of venues and events, it is probably a good idea to have your workers appear politically neutral.

YardleyLabs
10-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Stuff never happened in connection with Bush rallies... :rolleyes:


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-07-23-bush-protesters_x.htm

http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/000618.html

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/bumper-sticker-speech/


http://current.com/shows/current-tonight/90794074_double-standard-at-obama-and-bush-rallies.htm


Hypocrisy knows no bounds...

I guess your "point for the post is to illustrate the intolerance of the " right "that" has and " is rearing it's ugly head more and more every day". Obviously, you are completely out of line. It only takes one idiot to do something stupid. The worker had every right to wear his shirt. It takes a movement to use the power of the government to suppress dissent.