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Eric Johnson
10-27-2010, 06:25 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Voting-machines-in-Clark-County-Nevada-automatically-checking-Harry-Reids-name-Voting-machine-technicians-are-members-of-SEIU-105815608.html

http://tinyurl.com/2a59ssj

Nevada voting machines automatically checking Harry Reid's name; voting machine technicians are SEIU members
By: Mark Hemingway
Commentary Staff Writer
10/26/10 6:12 PM EDT

Clark County is where three quarters of Nevada's residents and live and where Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's son Rory is a county commissioner. Rory is also a Democratic candidate for governor.

Since early voting started, there have been credible reports that voting machines in Clark County, Nevada are automatically checking Harry Reid's name on the ballot:

Voter Joyce Ferrara said when they went to vote for Republican Sharron Angle, her Democratic opponent, Sen. Harry Reid's name was already checked.

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road kill
10-27-2010, 06:47 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Voting-machines-in-Clark-County-Nevada-automatically-checking-Harry-Reids-name-Voting-machine-technicians-are-members-of-SEIU-105815608.html

http://tinyurl.com/2a59ssj

Nevada voting machines automatically checking Harry Reid's name; voting machine technicians are SEIU members
By: Mark Hemingway
Commentary Staff Writer
10/26/10 6:12 PM EDT

Clark County is where three quarters of Nevada's residents and live and where Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's son Rory is a county commissioner. Rory is also a Democratic candidate for governor.

Since early voting started, there have been credible reports that voting machines in Clark County, Nevada are automatically checking Harry Reid's name on the ballot:

Voter Joyce Ferrara said when they went to vote for Republican Sharron Angle, her Democratic opponent, Sen. Harry Reid's name was already checked.

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It's all an innocent mistake.
Just like this one in Chicago of all places:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=7747590

Broad brush regards!!:D


RK

dixidawg
10-27-2010, 07:06 AM
The fun never ends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NuLVvVb4oc

Goose
10-27-2010, 08:15 AM
If you're a democrat in Nevada you don't even have to vote early and often because the SEIU jerry rigged voting machines will do it for you!! One Vote - Angle...Three Votes - Dingy Harry. Two Votes - Angle...7 Votes Dingy Harry. 5 Votes - Angle...90 Votes Dingy Harry. One Vote - Sandoval...4 Votes Dingy Rory. Three Votes - Sandoval...16 Votes Dingy Rory!!!!!

You gotta hand it to those SEIU voting machine technicians and the creative ways they steal elections. Dingy Harry and Dingy Rory appreciate all your hard work.

We live in Cuba now.

YardleyLabs
10-27-2010, 08:30 AM
The current generation of electronic voting machines is very insecure and open to fraud using a variety of sophisticated and not sophisticated techniques. Demonstrated examples of such corruption range from outsiders gaining administrative rights of systems allowing them to modfy vote counts directly down to accidental or deliberate calibration errors on individual machines causing them to cast votes that are different from what the voter intended. This type of calibration error (see http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-c-2010-10-22-248252.112112-Voting-irregularities-discovered-in-Craven.html) is particularly troublesome since machines need be recalibrated frequently by local staff. Efforts to require states and localities to implement machines that provided hard copy of votes cast and clear confirmation of the votes cast to voters have been opposed by all the manufacturers and by almost every state because of cost and difficulty. However, as a consequence, the new electronic machines are arguably much more subject to fraud than the old mechanical machines they replaced. In such a situation, fraud is inevitable. Who will benefit? Whoever controls the precinct and the board of elections.

Buzz
10-27-2010, 08:40 AM
The current generation of electronic voting machines is very insecure and open to fraud using a variety of sophisticated and not sophisticated techniques. Demonstrated examples of such corruption range from outsiders gaining administrative rights of systems allowing them to modfy vote counts directly down to accidental or deliberate calibration errors on individual machines causing them to cast votes that are different from what the voter intended. This type of calibration error (see http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-c-2010-10-22-248252.112112-Voting-irregularities-discovered-in-Craven.html) is particularly troublesome since machines need be recalibrated frequently by local staff. Efforts to require states and localities to implement machines that provided hard copy of votes cast and clear confirmation of the votes cast to voters have been opposed by all the manufacturers and by almost every state because of cost and difficulty. However, as a consequence, the new electronic machines are arguably much more subject to fraud than the old mechanical machines they replaced. In such a situation, fraud is inevitable. Who will benefit? Whoever controls the precinct and the board of elections.



Liberals have been raising a stink about electronic voting machines for how long? I'm glad the right has finally woken up. Of course any Democratic wins this fall will draw accusations of voter fraud from the Right. So what else is new... :rolleyes:

ducknwork
10-27-2010, 09:35 AM
That article is about the city that I live in. I guess I should watch the news more often!:D Or...just keep not voting a straight ticket.

Eric Johnson
10-27-2010, 10:07 AM
The current generation of electronic voting machines is very insecure and open to fraud using a variety of sophisticated and not sophisticated techniques.

Particularly when the technicians that work on them are members of an almost rabidly Democratic union.

Eric

Roger Perry
10-27-2010, 10:13 AM
That article is about the city that I live in. I guess I should watch the news more often!:D Or...just keep not voting a straight ticket.

You claim to be an Independent:confused: yet you say you vote a straight ticket:confused:

ducknwork
10-27-2010, 10:34 AM
You claim to be an Independent:confused: yet you say you vote a straight ticket:confused:

You claim to be an adult...But you don't know how to read. Try again, Rog. Read it more slowly this time, maybe it will help.

BTW, I have never claimed to be an independent. Wanna guess how I am registered?

Cody Covey
10-27-2010, 10:52 AM
You claim to be an Independent:confused: yet you say you vote a straight ticket:confused:

You even quoted him and got it wrong LOL

YardleyLabs
10-27-2010, 11:05 AM
Particularly when the technicians that work on them are members of an almost rabidly Democratic union.

Eric
And the owners of almost every manufacturer are rabid donors to Republican and conservative causes.

Eric Johnson
10-27-2010, 11:08 AM
And the owners of almost every manufacturer are rabid donors to Republican and conservative causes.

It ain't the making that's important. The "fine-tuning" is done by the last guy to touch it.

Eric

YardleyLabs
10-27-2010, 11:36 AM
It ain't the making that's important. The "fine-tuning" is done by the last guy to touch it.

Eric
Actually, the Diebold paperless voting machines are paintained by loval election staff. The provide no audit trail and can be easily configured to rig the vote with no more tools than a scewdriver. Diebold is a major contributor to Rpublicans and has locked up contracts in a number of swing states. See, for example, http://www.openvotingfoundation.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 and http://motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine. The machines are not maintained by any giant union, they are maintained by political appointees. The lack f better security and of any audit trail is a scandal.

Buzz
10-27-2010, 11:41 AM
It ain't the making that's important. The "fine-tuning" is done by the last guy to touch it.

Eric

Welcome to the party. Better late than never.

Cody Covey
10-27-2010, 01:37 PM
Actually, the Diebold paperless voting machines are paintained by loval election staff. The provide no audit trail and can be easily configured to rig the vote with no more tools than a scewdriver. Diebold is a major contributor to Rpublicans and has locked up contracts in a number of swing states. See, for example, http://www.openvotingfoundation.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 and http://motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine. The machines are not maintained by any giant union, they are maintained by political appointees. The lack f better security and of any audit trail is a scandal.

Why would it be hard to lock out the calibration portion of the machine so only certain people had access and then require a log sheet of some sort to keep track of who calibrates. Then you have much tighter security and a paper trail of who touched what...That would seem like it would completely get rid of fraud.

YardleyLabs
10-27-2010, 01:39 PM
Why would it be hard to lock out the calibration portion of the machine so only certain people had access and then require a log sheet of some sort to keep track of who calibrates. Then you have much tighter security and a paper trail of who touched what...That would seem like it would completely get rid of fraud.
It is locked out but election workers need access since it needs to be adjusted on site and may need adjustment during the day.

Cody Covey
10-27-2010, 01:48 PM
It is locked out but election workers need access since it needs to be adjusted on site and may need adjustment during the day.So have a log sheet and bam you have a paper trail of who was in and out. They can make it an electronic paper trail so that it wouldn't be tampered with.

BonMallari
10-27-2010, 01:50 PM
the voting machines are probably manufactured by the same company that makes the slot/poker machines and we know how tamper proof and reliable they are :rolleyes:

Eric Johnson
10-27-2010, 02:01 PM
You are arguing my point.

It's not the manufacturer of the machines that does the calibration or whatever you want to call it. Diebolt and the others make a machine that is in accord with the specifications that are put out for bid. If the local folks spec a machine that will be a problem, why are you blaming one national party or the other? It's the politicians for that unit of government that are at the root of the problem. The rest of us nationally may have to suffer for their hackneyed and childish behavior.

Going back almost 50 years now, Prof Brinkley in a PS 201 class was heard to point out that ..."both parties cheat. The Democrats cheat on a more massive scale and the Republicans cheat in a more subtle manner."

Eric

T. Mac
10-27-2010, 02:01 PM
the voting machines are probably manufactured by the same company that makes the slot/poker machines and we know how tamper proof and reliable they are :rolleyes:

Actually, they are made by the makers of ATM machines.

BonMallari
10-27-2010, 02:06 PM
Actually, they are made by the makers of ATM machines.


and we know ATM machines are always accurate :p:p

road kill
10-27-2010, 02:08 PM
And the owners of almost every manufacturer are rabid donors to Republican and conservative causes.

Diebold builds the machines.
(some anyway)
They have contributed to Republicans.

Are you saying the voting machines are rigged at manufacturing because the manufacturers contributed to Republicans??
I'm shocked!!:shock:


Broad brush regards..........:D


RK

ducknwork
10-28-2010, 06:39 AM
(see http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-c-2010-10-22-248252.112112-Voting-irregularities-discovered-in-Craven.html)


That article is about the city that I live in. I guess I should watch the news more often!:D Or...just keep not voting a straight ticket.

So, I got a chance to watch the news last night...It's not just switching votes on straight ticket ballots now. It's even switching votes when you are voting on individual races. The 'experts' are saying that people just aren't touching the area of the screen that they intend to touch. I think most grown adults can touch a little square on one side of the screen instead of the other side of the screen if they want to. Even democrats can figure that one out!