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Uncle Bill
10-28-2010, 11:11 AM
...think about this. UB

Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts forinvestors, small business owners, and families.

These will all expire on January 1, 2011.



The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which two-thirds of small business profits are taxed).

The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent.

All the rates in between will also rise.


Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates.




The"marriage penalty" (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of income.


The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child.


The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.


The dependent care and adoption tax creditswill be cut.


The return of the Death Tax.

This year only, there is no death tax. (It's a quirk!)For those dying on or after January 1, 2011, there is a 55 percent
top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes, a business,a retirementaccount, could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones. Think of the farmers who don't make much money, but their land, which they purchased years ago with after-tax dollars, is now worth a lot of money. Their children will have to sell the farm, which may be their livelihood, just to pay the estate tax if they don't have the cash sitting around to pay the tax. Think about your own family's assets. Maybe your familyowns real estate, or a business that doesn't make much money, but the building and equipment are worth $1 million. Upon their death, you can inherit the $1 million business tax free, but if they own a home, stock, cash worth $500K on top of the $1 million business, then you will owe the government $275,000 cash! That's 55% of the value of the assets over $1 million! Do you have that kind of cash sitting around waiting to pay the estate tax?



The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011.

The dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6percent in 2011.

These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.


There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Several will first go into effect onJanuary 1, 2011. They include:

The "Medicine Cabinet Tax"

Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will no longer be able to use healthsavings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or healthreimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription,over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).


The "Special Needs Kids Tax"

This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs)of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit). Thereis one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularlycruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.



The HSA (Health Savings Account) Withdrawal Tax Hike.

This provision of Obamacare increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.



When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011,they'll be in for a nasty surprise-the AMT won't be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired.


The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year.

According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress' failure to index the AMT will lead toan explosion of AMT taxpaying families-rising from 4 million lastyear to 28.5 million. These families will have to calculate theirtax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.


Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear.

Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or"depreciate") equipment purchases up to $250,000.

This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can currentlyexpense half of their purchases of equipment.

In January of 2011,all of it will have to be "depreciated."

There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will takeplace. The biggest is the loss of the "research and experimentation tax credit," but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates withthe loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.


Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced.

The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available.

Tax credits for education will be limited.

Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses.

Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut.

Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed.

The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

dnf777
10-28-2010, 11:42 AM
The tax rate for those making 250k and above will rise by 4% on that portion of your income over 250k.

I have not seen anything to substantiate the lowest rates will increase by 10-15%, or those in between.

What is the source of this information?

Buzz
10-28-2010, 11:50 AM
The tax rate for those making 250k and above will rise by 4% on that portion of your income over 250k.

I have not seen anything to substantiate the lowest rates will increase by 10-15%, or those in between.

What is the source of this information?


I think it says that the lowest bracket will increase from a rate of 10% to a rate of 15%.

dnf777
10-28-2010, 12:56 PM
I think it says that the lowest bracket will increase from a rate of 10% to a rate of 15%.

The statement is not clear on that. Either way, I haven't seen anything to support even a 1% increase on the lower brackets.

luvmylabs23139
10-28-2010, 03:17 PM
The statement is not clear on that. Either way, I haven't seen anything to support even a 1% increase on the lower brackets.

At this point the 10% backet will go to 15%. Congress has done nothing so effective January 1st the increase will take effect. The irs has already set witholding tables for 2011 based on no extention of the Bush tax cuts.

Uncle Bill
10-28-2010, 03:34 PM
The statement is not clear on that. Either way, I haven't seen anything to support even a 1% increase on the lower brackets.



- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
- The 25% bracket rises to 28%
- The 28% bracket rises to 31%
- The 33% bracket rises to 36%
- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%


Now you have.

What did you think "expiring" the Bush tax cuts meant? I suspect even you will see an increase in your taxes, unless those that are more sane among Congress decide to reinstate those cuts.

UB

Gerry Clinchy
10-28-2010, 06:02 PM
Does it really make sense to tax dividends at 39.6%?

Would that cause stocks paying dividends to be sold, and that $ invested in some other vehicle that could provide a tax sheltered return?

Why not tax dividends at the same rate as earned income? The lower tax bracket would pay the same rate as their total income merits and not be discouraged from providing for their retirement through owning stocks that pay decent dividends.

depittydawg
10-28-2010, 10:11 PM
- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
- The 25% bracket rises to 28%
- The 28% bracket rises to 31%
- The 33% bracket rises to 36%
- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%


Now you have.

What did you think "expiring" the Bush tax cuts meant? I suspect even you will see an increase in your taxes, unless those that are more sane among Congress decide to reinstate those cuts.

UB

Unfortunately we have reached a point with the deficits that raising taxes is mandated. Americans don't want to end Social Security. Americans don't seem to want to retreat from Empire. Continued trillion dollar deficits are not an option.

dnf777
10-29-2010, 11:19 AM
Oh, you guys are referring to the Bush tax increases? I see.

Yes, UB, my taxes will rise. But it will hurt MUCH less knowing they will be going to educating American kids and refurbishing OUR infrastructure....not to the MIC executives via an unjust war in Iraq! You should take at least some solace in that as well, being a red-blooded American that I know you are.

On a different note, and in the "funny but true" category, I leave you with this:


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Hew
10-29-2010, 12:14 PM
Oh, you guys are referring to the Bush tax increases? I see.

Yes, UB, my taxes will rise. But it will hurt MUCH less knowing they will be going to educating American kids and refurbishing OUR infrastructure....not to the MIC executives via an unjust war in Iraq! You should take at least some solace in that as well, being a red-blooded American that I know you are.

On a different note, and in the "funny but true" category, I leave you with this:


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Bwaaaaahaaa. I guess that's just your way of sayin', "Sorry for spreading false information and thanks for setting me straight with the facts fellers. I don't know why I just can't keep my mouth shut even when I don't have a clue wtf I'm talking about."

dnf777
10-29-2010, 12:19 PM
Bwaaaaahaaa. I guess that's just your way of sayin', "Sorry for spreading false information and thanks for setting me straight with the facts fellers. I don't know why I just can't keep my mouth shut even when I don't have a clue wtf I'm talking about."

Hey, then you shouldn't bi#$h when you're taxes go up! You agreed to the sundowning tax cuts that have provided us with oh so many jobs and economic growth! Maybe if you're lucky, we'll start another unjust war based on lies, so you'll feel better having your tax dollars go down another country's drain! No wonder McCain appeals to guys like you....100 years mired in expensive wars! Ode to Joy!

Hew
10-29-2010, 12:32 PM
Hey, then you shouldn't bi#$h when you're taxes go up! You agreed to the sundowning tax cuts that have provided us with oh so many jobs and economic growth! Maybe if you're lucky, we'll start another unjust war based on lies, so you'll feel better having your tax dollars go down another country's drain! No wonder McCain appeals to guys like you....100 years mired in expensive wars! Ode to Joy!
LOL. You don't have to go all hal 2000 on us.

I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid. Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.