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Roger Perry
11-08-2010, 02:40 PM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:

sandyg
11-08-2010, 02:57 PM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:

I don't get it.

You haven't suffered a sudden cranial impact yourself, have you?

road kill
11-08-2010, 03:13 PM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:


WOW Roger, what a truly great post!!
Awesome, DUDE!!


Anyone got a smoke??:rolleyes:




RK

Roger Perry
11-08-2010, 03:18 PM
WOW Roger, what a truly great post!!
Awesome, DUDE!!


Anyone got a smoke??:rolleyes:




RK

Just keeping up with current news events. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39976132/ns/today-books/?GT1=43001
By the way, did you notice the grey hairs in the other utube sites. He did not have them when he was Governor.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...ain&FORM=VIRE1 (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1)

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...0drunk%20again (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again)

dnf777
11-08-2010, 03:19 PM
Anyone find it interesting he chose NBC for his break-out post-presidency interview?
Aren't they a liberal, communist, socialist network?

road kill
11-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Just keeping up with current news events. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39976132/ns/today-books/?GT1=43001
By the way, did you notice the grey hairs in the other utube sites. He did not have them when he was Governor.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...ain&FORM=VIRE1 (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1)

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...0drunk%20again (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again)

No Rog, I don't scan the internet inspecting pictures of Bush for grey hairs.:rolleyes:

Got enough of my own, lot's of people get them as they age.

RK

dnf777
11-08-2010, 03:28 PM
There are sites where you can see before and after pictures of our presidents. That job certainly seems to age men beyond the calender years!

Roger Perry
11-08-2010, 03:29 PM
No Rog, I don't scan the internet inspecting pictures of Bush for grey hairs.:rolleyes:

Got enough of my own, lot's of people get them as they age.

RK

Come on RK those were short clips.

Oh, here's another one for ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRyO6JP6Oc&NR=1

YardleyLabs
11-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Just keeping up with current news events. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39976132/ns/today-books/?GT1=43001
By the way, did you notice the grey hairs in the other utube sites. He did not have them when he was Governor.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...ain&FORM=VIRE1 (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1)

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...0drunk%20again (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again)
While I have no basis for knowing, I suspect that his apparent drunkenness may have been the result of fatigue, rather than alcohol. The symptoms are essentially the same and Presidential schedules are inhuman. I suspect that Presidential leadership has been directly affected by extreme fatigue at some pretty critical times.

road kill
11-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Come on RK those were short clips.

Oh, here's another one for ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRyO6JP6Oc&NR=1

Good work Roger, go find more!!


RK

sandyg
11-08-2010, 03:36 PM
While I have no basis for knowing, I suspect that his apparent drunkenness may have been the result of fatigue, rather than alcohol. The symptoms are essentially the same and Presidential schedules are inhuman. I suspect that Presidential leadership has been directly affected by extreme fatigue at some pretty critical times.

Thanks, Cliff Clavin, for your insightful analysis.
Now one question please...
WHO ASKED YOU!?!?!

Now get off my internet!

Roger Perry
11-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Good work Roger, go find more!!


RK

Slow day at work today. I had some time on my hands.;-)

Roger Perry
11-08-2010, 03:48 PM
Good work Roger, go find more!!


RK

You asked for it

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drunk-at-wedding/83d7fe11de410441366283d7fe11de4104413662-282495352938?q=Bush%20drunk%20at%20wedding&FROM=LKVR5&GT1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR

Bush picks a running mate
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/george-bush-picking-his-nose/02d3dfda583b435b0b8c02d3dfda583b435b0b8c-280732106872?q=bush%20picking%20nose&FORM=VIRE1

YardleyLabs
11-08-2010, 03:59 PM
You asked for it

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drunk-at-wedding/83d7fe11de410441366283d7fe11de4104413662-282495352938?q=Bush%20drunk%20at%20wedding&FROM=LKVR5&GT1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR

Bush picks a running mate
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/george-bush-picking-his-nose/02d3dfda583b435b0b8c02d3dfda583b435b0b8c-280732106872?q=bush%20picking%20nose&FORM=VIRE1
The first of these comes from the wedding if Jamie Weiss, daughter of Bush's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss in 1992. That was six years after Bush said he took his last drink, and well before he became President.

dback
11-08-2010, 04:00 PM
Thanks, Cliff Clavin, for your insightful analysis.
Now one question please...
WHO ASKED YOU!?!?!

Now get off my internet!

Jeff is the last regular on this site that needs me to stand in for him. He is about as articulate and restrained as they come and as such, I doubt seriously he will bother responding to your post. The post was informative, relative and fair minded (not always the case). gman sometimes finds himself lacking restraint in his commentary .... perhaps you could avoid the same reputation.

Cody Covey
11-08-2010, 04:32 PM
Jeff is the last regular on this site that needs me to stand in for him. He is about as articulate and restrained as they come and as such, I doubt seriously he will bother responding to your post. The post was informative, relative and fair minded (not always the case). gman sometimes finds himself lacking restraint in his commentary .... perhaps you could avoid the same reputation.

Its a little late for that i think dback.

depittydawg
11-08-2010, 09:07 PM
Anyone find it interesting he chose NBC for his break-out post-presidency interview?
Aren't they a liberal, communist, socialist network?

What's interesting about it? No doubt they offered up the most money for the interview. This is America, remember.

depittydawg
11-08-2010, 09:09 PM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:

For no other reason besides intuition, I think this video is doctored. Much as I despised the former President, I never saw him in this state before.

dnf777
11-08-2010, 09:25 PM
What's interesting about it? No doubt they offered up the most money for the interview. This is America, remember.

Yeah, but its the "gotchya media". I thought the republicans decided to stick with their publicity wing....FoxNews....and boycott the gotchya media.

I applaud him for going mainstream media.

sandyg
11-08-2010, 09:55 PM
Yeah, but its the "gotchya media". I thought the republicans decided to stick with their publicity wing....FoxNews....and boycott the gotchya media.

I applaud him for going mainstream media.

FoxNews IS mainstream media.

coachmo
11-08-2010, 11:21 PM
So are we to believe that some of you actually find ABC, CBS, NBC and their affiliates as the "true voice" of news in America. You have got to be kidding!!!

dnf777
11-09-2010, 05:59 AM
So are we to believe that some of you actually find ABC, CBS, NBC and their affiliates as the "true voice" of news in America. You have got to be kidding!!!

There's a bad epidemic of putting words in other people's mouths around here. I didn't say that.

They do not openly give millions to political parties like Fox does. They do not openly solicit campaign contributions on air like Fox does. They do not have political candidates and future candidates on their payroll providing mass media megaphones for their party.

Most news channels distinguish between "news" and "commentery". Fox does not. Their "news" IS political commentery.

Having said that, I watch them occasionally, and have no problem with a network being a political outlet, but just don't masquerade as an unbiased news source. The others are not perfect, but much closer to a legitimate news source than Rupert's clan.

While almost every network is guilty at some degree at times of bias, Fox has taken it unashamedly to new levels.

subroc
11-09-2010, 06:54 AM
Anyone find it interesting he chose NBC for his break-out post-presidency interview?
Aren't they a liberal, communist, socialist network?

yes............

road kill
11-09-2010, 07:07 AM
Anyone find it interesting he chose NBC for his break-out post-presidency interview?
Aren't they a liberal, communist, socialist network?

He must not think of them as the "ENEMY!!";-)

RK

Hew
11-09-2010, 07:09 AM
What's interesting about it? No doubt they offered up the most money for the interview. This is America, remember.
That's why you hate it, right? Things cost money that you ain't got it, ergo, the country sucks.

BTW, the notion that NBC is paying Bush so he can advertise his book for free is, well, silly. FWIW, he's appearing on other networks as well.

ducknwork
11-09-2010, 07:19 AM
For no other reason besides intuition, I think this video is doctored. Much as I despised the former President, I never saw him in this state before.

I thought the same thing. The second video in the OP looked especially slowed down.

ducknwork
11-09-2010, 07:20 AM
Thanks, Cliff Clavin, for your insightful analysis.
Now one question please...
WHO ASKED YOU!?!?!

Now get off my internet!

You are a douche bag. How about some insightful analysis from you instead of constant trolling?

Ken Bora
11-09-2010, 07:46 AM
I watched the interview last evening instead of the first quarter of Monday night football. I thought it was an excellent interview. What jumped out the most, for me. Was first h0w he spoke President Obama’s name only once. Mat said it just 3 times. When asked pointed questions about the fault for things he simply said it was his fault. Presidents do not get “do overs”. Then he stated President Obama has enough enemies and he is not going to be one of them. I think Matt asked some great questions. I am going to buy the book.




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M&K's Retrievers
11-09-2010, 07:48 AM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:

If this crapola were true, how come we are just hearing of it? Certainly this would have been the stuff the MSM would have jumped on and not let go.

Ken Bora
11-09-2010, 08:00 AM
Thanks, Cliff Clavin, for your insightful analysis.
Now one question please...
WHO ASKED YOU!?!?!

Now get off my internet!
Do we all need to ask your holiness permission before posting?
Is it topic by topic or a daily type of thing?
Am I allowed to post today? On what threads?
Do you need to constantly train to maintain such a high standard
Of certified dipshit, or are you a natural?:rolleyes:






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Ken Bora
11-09-2010, 08:07 AM
FoxNews IS mainstream media.

Wrong again chucklehead. But you must be used to that.:cool:
Fox is a cable news network and will not be “mainstream”
until all of the country has cable. Until then the big 3
are what all of the country can view, and are mainstream.
I thought is was a very good interview.




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YardleyLabs
11-09-2010, 08:07 AM
If this crapola were true, how come we are just hearing of it? Certainly this would have been the stuff the MSM would have jumped on and not let go.
There actually were reports along the way. One of the more reported moments followed the President's hospitalization when he fell and struck his head on a table in 2002. The official story was that he was choking on a pretzel. A British physician who had been at Walter Read said he was told that the blood test taken at admission indicated intoxication. There were alo comments at varous times from members of the press corps about just how dry that wagon was. From my perspective, it is irrelevant. Presidents are allowed to have drinks, and even allowed to have a few too many while watching football on a Sunday afternoon. I never saw any evidence of an alcohol problem during his presidency and consider the question of whether or not he ever had a drink to fall into the same category of "none of my business" as whether or not Obama sneaks cigarettes or Bill Clinton ate Big Macs.

road kill
11-09-2010, 08:50 AM
There actually were reports along the way. One of the more reported moments followed the President's hospitalization when he fell and struck his head on a table in 2002. The official story was that he was choking on a pretzel. A British physician who had been at Walter Read said he was told that the blood test taken at admission indicated intoxication. There were alo comments at varous times from members of the press corps about just how dry that wagon was. From my perspective, it is irrelevant. Presidents are allowed to have drinks, and even allowed to have a few too many while watching football on a Sunday afternoon. I never saw any evidence of an alcohol problem during his presidency and consider the question of whether or not he ever had a drink to fall into the same category of "none of my business" as whether or not Obama sneaks cigarettes or Bill Clinton ate Big Macs.

I agree.........

Not blaming or anything, just commenting.

Anyone ever here the LEGEND of LBJ's whiskey consumption??:shock:


As Raymonds pop would say....."Holy Crap!!"


RK

dnf777
11-09-2010, 08:57 AM
There actually were reports along the way. One of the more reported moments followed the President's hospitalization when he fell and struck his head on a table in 2002. The official story was that he was choking on a pretzel. A British physician who had been at Walter Read said he was told that the blood test taken at admission indicated intoxication. There were alo comments at varous times from members of the press corps about just how dry that wagon was. From my perspective, it is irrelevant. Presidents are allowed to have drinks, and even allowed to have a few too many while watching football on a Sunday afternoon. I never saw any evidence of an alcohol problem during his presidency and consider the question of whether or not he ever had a drink to fall into the same category of "none of my business" as whether or not Obama sneaks cigarettes or Bill Clinton ate Big Macs.

Well said.

While I disagree with almost everything Pres. Bush did in office, and we will be paying the price for generations to come, I must say he has conducted himself as a gentleman and statesman in his retirement, including this interview. I think there are glaring inconsistencies in what he says and what he did, but that's understandable. I suspect, that like his father and Pres. Clinton, he will begin to emerge onto the humanitarian stage, or at least I hope he does. This is one area where former presidents can make a huge difference, and project America's goodwill.

dnf777
11-09-2010, 09:03 AM
I agree.........

Not blaming or anything, just commenting.

Anyone ever here the LEGEND of LBJ's whiskey consumption??:shock:


As Raymonds pop would say....."Holy Crap!!"


RK


I recall John Hightower, from Texas, had issues with frequent benders, including alleged black-out periods, which cost him an appointment. In toda's i-reporter era and 24 hour news, it probably behooves politicos NOT to be seen boozing, with rare exceptions. (I think Hilary's chugging a beer on the campaign trail was seen as a "human" moment, and may have helped her)

road kill
11-09-2010, 09:05 AM
Well said.



http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww42/sbx1/skipper.jpg


RK:D

dnf777
11-09-2010, 09:22 AM
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww42/sbx1/skipper.jpg


RK:D

Now THAT is funny!

However, I'd have been too busy chasing Maryanne to listen to whatever the skipper was achin' about!

How 'bout you? Maryanne or Ginger? :cool:

M&K's Retrievers
11-09-2010, 09:31 AM
There actually were reports along the way. One of the more reported moments followed the President's hospitalization when he fell and struck his head on a table in 2002. The official story was that he was choking on a pretzel. A British physician who had been at Walter Read said he was told that the blood test taken at admission indicated intoxication. There were alo comments at varous times from members of the press corps about just how dry that wagon was. From my perspective, it is irrelevant. Presidents are allowed to have drinks, and even allowed to have a few too many while watching football on a Sunday afternoon. I never saw any evidence of an alcohol problem during his presidency and consider the question of whether or not he ever had a drink to fall into the same category of "none of my business" as whether or not Obama sneaks cigarettes or Bill Clinton ate Big Macs.

Oh, I agree as well. If any job can drive you to drink, it's that one. I just think if the MSM had any inkling of a problem, they would have been on it worse than Watergate or Monica gate. They simply couldn't resist. We all know it's not like the Kennedy years when the press looked the other way from his indiscretions.

sandyg
11-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Wrong again chucklehead. But you must be used to that.:cool:
Fox is a cable news network and will not be “mainstream”
until all of the country has cable. Until then the big 3
are what all of the country can view, and are mainstream.
I thought is was a very good interview.


Sorry Yosemite Sam, you lose...

Cable TV:
Historically, cable is the most popular household video entertainment medium in the United States. As of June 2006, more than 59.1 percent of U.S. households have cable service.
Satellite:
Satellite growth is occurring rapidly (25 percent of U.S. homes have satellite). Although it remains less prevalent than cable, satellite has had an impact on cable growth across the country.


Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for November 5, 2010


P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s) Total Day



FNC
1,338 327 595 CNN
365 94 151 MSNBC
475 165 240 CNBC
185 53 97 HLN
232 98 125




Primetime
P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s) FNC
2,386 530 1,020 CNN
484 124 191 MSNBC
1,003 321 503 CNBC
142 60 65 HLN
408 127 198

Ken Bora
11-09-2010, 10:37 AM
Sorry Yosemite Sam, you lose...

Aw contraire Black Jacques Shellac,
All your examples are also cable networks
Compare CBS, ABC or NBC open air broadcasts
To cable. Cable is not nationwide……;-)



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dnf777
11-09-2010, 12:20 PM
Aw contraire Black Jacques Shellac,
All your examples are also cable networks
Compare CBS, ABC or NBC open air broadcasts
To cable. Cable is not nationwide……;-)



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I admit I didn't read his post, but let me take a stab in the dark:

bunch of BS numbers with NO SOURCING?

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'll save my breath....

sandyg
11-09-2010, 12:27 PM
I admit I didn't read his post, but let me take a stab in the dark:

bunch of BS numbers with NO SOURCING?

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'll save my breath....

Hey hypocrite, just because I didn't include the source doesn't mean it's BS. If that's your rational then everything you write is BS as well.

You're Cliff Clavin, not me. You want sources, go get 'em!!!

dnf777
11-09-2010, 12:36 PM
I assume if I were wrong, someone would have let me know. Since I only see a blocked reply from the source.....I guess I was right!

Oops, I better "get off his internet" before he goes and tells his mommy!

road kill
11-09-2010, 01:02 PM
Now THAT is funny!

However, I'd have been too busy chasing Maryanne to listen to whatever the skipper was achin' about!

How 'bout you? Maryanne or Ginger? :cool:


Ginger didn't age well, Maryanne has that gardening thing, now Cat Woman on the other hand...........


RK

depittydawg
11-09-2010, 11:51 PM
That's why you hate it, right? Things cost money that you ain't got it, ergo, the country sucks.

BTW, the notion that NBC is paying Bush so he can advertise his book for free is, well, silly. FWIW, he's appearing on other networks as well.

Just curious, but why do you feel the need to attack my patriotism and make wild assumptions of my net worth and or income level? If you don't think NBC paid for the privilege of an exclusive of one of the most controversial presidents in history than just say so.

Hew
11-10-2010, 04:34 AM
Just curious, but why do you feel the need to attack my patriotism and make wild assumptions of my net worth and or income level? If you don't think NBC paid for the privilege of an exclusive of one of the most controversial presidents in history than just say so.
The two points I made, your apparent disdain for your country and NBC paying for Bush to advertise on their show, are interrelated. As a review, you wrote:


What's interesting about it? No doubt they offered up the most money for the interview. This is America, remember.

You seem to be contending that in America, everything is corrupted by our Capitalist system; including journalists and ex-Presidents. That you used the nonsensical notion of NBC paying Bush so he could advertise his book on their network as an example of that corruption is indicative of how much contempt you have. Couple your dripping-with-disdain quote from above with a multitude of your other posts is and it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that you're not fond of the country as it exists and you're not fond of our economic system as it exists.

Ken Bora
11-10-2010, 08:12 AM
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww42/sbx1/skipper.jpg


RK:D


Now THAT is funny!

However, I'd have been too busy chasing Maryanne to listen to whatever the skipper was achin' about!

How 'bout you? Maryanne or Ginger? :cool:


Ginger didn't age well, Maryanne has that gardening thing, now Cat Woman on the other hand...........


RK
But who had harem pants and could make ducks come in over the decoys in the blink of an eye?

I Dream of Genie…..:cool:



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road kill
11-10-2010, 08:18 AM
But who had harem pants and could make ducks come in over the decoys in the blink of an eye?

I Dream of Genie…..:cool:



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She is still beautiful and a totally classy lady!!

RK

dnf777
11-10-2010, 08:45 AM
She is still beautiful and a totally classy lady!!

RK

You saying she wouldn't hang with us? :(

code3retrievers
11-10-2010, 08:54 AM
Bush, who says he quit drinking in 1986, told Matt Lauer in an exclusive interview that even in the most stressful moments of his presidency, he never thought about taking a drink — despite rumors that he had fallen off the wagon.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/president-bush-drunk-again/56fccaa46b62eda50ed156fccaa46b62eda50ed1-280358945339?q=bush%20drunk%20again&FORM=VIRE1

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drinking-again/55aa012a85d8ce9c93f055aa012a85d8ce9c93f0-280598414730?q=bush%20drunk%20again

He must have landed on head when he fell off that wagon not to remember he started drinking again:BIG:

Doctored video. Just slowed down. No different then this http://www.pakistan.tv/videos-obama-drunk-speech-fail-%5By1OJo7JUTIw%5D.cfm

Time for you to grow up.

dixidawg
11-10-2010, 08:58 AM
You asked for it

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bush-drunk-at-wedding/83d7fe11de410441366283d7fe11de4104413662-282495352938?q=Bush%20drunk%20at%20wedding&FROM=LKVR5&GT1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR

Bush picks a running mate
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/george-bush-picking-his-nose/02d3dfda583b435b0b8c02d3dfda583b435b0b8c-280732106872?q=bush%20picking%20nose&FORM=VIRE1



You missed Old man Bush. He was so drunk he passed out and puked on the Minister of Japan. It must be hereditary.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca9_1174228123

Roger Perry
11-10-2010, 10:03 AM
You missed Old man Bush. He was so drunk he passed out and puked on the Minister of Japan. It must be hereditary.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca9_1174228123

I always liked George senior. wish he could have been re-elected.

Julie R.
11-10-2010, 10:30 AM
Aw contraire Black Jacques Shellac,
All your examples are also cable networks
Compare CBS, ABC or NBC open air broadcasts
To cable. Cable is not nationwide……;-)



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Sorry to seem dumb, but Fox is network here (D.C. metro area) and trust me I know about networks because we only got the 4 network channels til we finally broke down and got our satellite dish 3 years ago. So it's news to me that it isn't mainstream media?

Ken Bora
11-10-2010, 10:49 AM
Sorry to seem dumb, but Fox is network here (D.C. metro area) and trust me I know about networks because we only got the 4 network channels til we finally broke down and got our satellite dish 3 years ago. So it's news to me that it isn't mainstream media?
Here we have Fox open air broadcast that has the Fox football coverage and it’s entertainment programming and a local news segment and brief national insert. Also Fox News, the cable channel with 24/7 fair and balanced coverage of world events and opinion shows like Hannity, Beck, O’Rielly and Huckiby, so it is both. Broadcast and cable.



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depittydawg
11-10-2010, 08:52 PM
The two points I made, your apparent disdain for your country and NBC paying for Bush to advertise on their show, are interrelated. As a review, you wrote:



You seem to be contending that in America, everything is corrupted by our Capitalist system; including journalists and ex-Presidents. That you used the nonsensical notion of NBC paying Bush so he could advertise his book on their network as an example of that corruption is indicative of how much contempt you have. Couple your dripping-with-disdain quote from above with a multitude of your other posts is and it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that you're not fond of the country as it exists and you're not fond of our economic system as it exists.

That's a trap that catches a lot of people, both conservative and liberal. The fact that I express dislike, distrust or disdain over what happens in politics and / or business is not a refection of patriotism. The fact that my beliefs contradict your own is not a measure of patriotism. That fact that I'm not happy with the direction the nation is moving, once again, is not a mark of lack of support for the country. So let's keep the discussion on topic, and leave out the suppositions and dramatic personalizations.
Beyond that, the comment that everything in America is up for sale is, well, pretty true by my observations. And I have to admit, I've never seen a President stoop as low as Bush did on this interview. What is he? Broke already or something? The way he was hawking that book seemed rather demeaning for an ex-president.

Hew
11-11-2010, 01:31 AM
That's a trap that catches a lot of people, both conservative and liberal. The fact that I express dislike, distrust or disdain over what happens in politics and / or business is not a refection of patriotism.
Your definition of patriotism differs from mine (and every dictionary published in the English language). You're trapped in the notion that perenial sh!t-disturbing and dissatisfaction are somehow patriotic. But hey, it's America and you're free to shout nonsense from rooftops or retriever message boards. I'm free to call it nonsense.

dnf777
11-11-2010, 05:43 AM
And I have to admit, I've never seen a President stoop as low as Bush did on this interview. What is he? Broke already or something? The way he was hawking that book seemed rather demeaning for an ex-president.

I have my copy and have just started reading it. I'm finding it very enjoyable, an getting to see a more human side of the former president.

I am reading it with a raised eyebrow of course, and Gherhardt Schroeder has already refuted the claims that he privately offered to support the war in Bush's ear. Those claims will fall into the eternal realm of "he said, he said"...as by the very nature of the claim, it will be impossible to prove or disprove.

M&K's Retrievers
11-11-2010, 08:49 AM
Your definition of patriotism differs from mine (and every dictionary published in the English language). You're trapped in the notion that perenial sh!t-disturbing and dissatisfaction are somehow patriotic. But hey, it's America and you're free to shout nonsense from rooftops or retriever message boards. I'm free to call it nonsense.

Consider the source.

Ken Bora
11-11-2010, 09:41 AM
... And I have to admit, I've never seen a President stoop as low as Bush did on this interview......


I strongly disagree, his interviews have been very presidential. Possibly more presidential than the Presidents interviews the past 2 years. I especially like the occasions he took complete blame for one thing or another. “It was my fault” seems to be a phrase Mr. Obama is incapable of uttering. What a wonderful example for our youts. If you flock something up say it was your fault.
I have been watching both the Laur interviews and the Hannity pick up truck interview.
Also like how he told about how he and Mr. Clinton have become friends from their interactions with charities. He said he likes spending time with Bill and he is a fun guy. I bet the two of them would be a hoot to have in the duck blind together.



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M&K's Retrievers
11-11-2010, 10:05 AM
I bet the two of them would be a hoot to have in the duck blind together.



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I agree. Much more so than the current occupant but I doubt he would ever get close to a duck blind.

dnf777
11-11-2010, 10:21 AM
I agree. Much more so than the current occupant but I doubt he would ever get close to a duck blind.

While I wouldn't argue strongly with what you say, I would point out one tiny difference. Obama is currently mired in his decisions and problems. It is one thing to reflect upon one's mistakes, but to go around constantly self-deprecating would have adverse effects on his leadership. I have heard him at press dinners etc...comment on have screwed a few things up, but I'd give him a chance to finish at least one term before asking him to critically self-evaluate publically. I hope PRIVATELY, he is capable of admitting errors.

Eric Johnson
11-11-2010, 11:15 AM
They do not openly give millions to political parties like Fox does.

Please cite a specific example of FoxNews "giving millions to political parties..."

The wording of your sentence itself is curious. Since there are but two parties, are you claiming that FoxNews gives to both? The use of the plural of party seems to imply that.

And, before you come back with the tired old saw about Roger Ailes, owner of FoxNews, please be prepared to address the political contributions of General Electric, owner of NBC. If we're to discuss this, it should be fair and balanced...doncha think?

Eric

dnf777
11-11-2010, 11:38 AM
Please cite a specific example of FoxNews "giving millions to political parties..."

The wording of your sentence itself is curious. Since there are but two parties, are you claiming that FoxNews gives to both? The use of the plural of party seems to imply that.

And, before you come back with the tired old saw about Roger Ailes, owner of FoxNews, please be prepared to address the political contributions of General Electric, owner of NBC. If we're to discuss this, it should be fair and balanced...doncha think?

Eric

You will find very few political contributors who don't hedge their bets by donating to multiple parties (or candidates). This is common practice.

General Electric is a hugely diversified corporation. News Corp. does news.

But hey, if you're advocating limiting the corporate purchase of elections, I'm with ya!