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Uncle Bill
11-11-2010, 12:51 PM
This would offset the problem of illegal aliens voting. One of Ann Coulter's best. UB

TIME TO REPEAL THE 26TH AMENDMENT

Jimmy Carter was such an abominable president we got Ronald Reagan, tax cuts, a booming economy and the destruction of the Soviet Union.

Two years of Bill Clinton and a Democratic Congress got us the first Republican Congress in half a century, followed by tax cuts, welfare reform and a booming economy –- all of which Clinton now claims credit for.

Obama's disastrous presidency has already produced Republican senators from Massachusetts, Wisconsin and Illinois; New Jersey's wonder-governor Chris Christie; and the largest House majority for Republicans since 1946.


We deserve more. Clinton only threatened to wreck the health care system; Obama actually did it. We must repeal the 26th Amendment.

Adopted in 1971 at the tail end of the Worst Generation's anti-war protests, the argument for allowing children to vote was that 18-year-olds could drink and be conscripted into the military, so they ought to be allowed to vote.

But 18-year-olds aren't allowed to drink anymore. We no longer have a draft. In fact, while repealing the 26th Amendment, we ought to add a separate right to vote for members of the military, irrespective of age.

As we have learned from ObamaCare, young people are not considered adults until age 26, at which point they are finally forced to get off their parents' health care plans. The old motto was "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote." The new motto is: "Not old enough to buy your own health insurance, not old enough to vote."

Eighteen- to 26-year-olds don't have property, spouses, children or massive tax bills. Most of them don't even have jobs because the president they felt so good about themselves for supporting wrecked the economy.

The meager tax young people paid for vehicle licensing fees on their cars threw them into such a blind rage that in 2003 they uncharacteristically voted to recall the Democratic governor of California, Gray Davis. Wait until they start making real money and realize they share a joint-checking account arrangement with the government! Literally wait. Then we'll let them vote.

Having absolutely no idea what makes their precious cars run, by the way, young voters are the most likely to oppose offshore drilling.

How about 10-year-olds? Why not give them the vote?

Then we'd have politicians wooing voters with offers of free Justin Bieber tickets instead of offers of a "sustainable planet" or whatever hokum the youth have swallowed hook, line and sinker from their teachers, pop culture idols and other authority figures. (Along with their approved-by-the-authorities "Question Authority" bumper stickers.)

Like 18-year-olds, the 10-year-olds would be sublimely unaware that they're the ones who will be footing the bill for all these "free" goodies, paying and paying until they die of old age.

Brain research in the last five years at Dartmouth and elsewhere has shown that human brains are not fully developed until age 25 and are particularly deficient in their frontal lobes, which control decision-making, rational thinking, judgment, the ability to plan ahead and to resist impulses.

Unfortunately, we didn't know that in 1971. Those of you who have made it to age 26 without dying in a stupid drinking game -- and I think congratulations are in order, by the way -- understand how insane it is to allow young people to vote.

It would almost be tolerable if everyone under the age of 30 just admitted they voted for Obama because someone said to them, "C'mon, it's really cool! Everyone's doing it!"

We trusted them, and now we know it was a mistake.

True, Reagan tied with Carter for the youth vote in 1980 and stole younger voters from Mondale in 1984, but other than that, young voters have consistently embarrassed themselves. Of course, back when Reagan was running for president, young voters consisted of the one slice of the population completely uninfected by the Worst Generation. Today's youth are the infantilized, pampered, bicycle-helmeted children of the Worst Generation.

They foisted this jug-eared, European socialist on us and now they must be punished. Voters aged 18 to 29 years old comprised nearly a fifth of the voting population in 2008 and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama, 66 percent to 31 percent.

And it only took 12 to 14 years of North Korean-style brainwashing to make them do it! At least their teachers haven't brainwashed them into burning books or ratting out their parents to the Stasi yet. (Of course, before teaching them book-burning, their professors would be forced to teach them what a book is.)

It would make more sense to give public school teachers and college professors 20 votes apiece than to allow their impressionable students to vote.

The Re-Education Camp Effect can be seen in how these slackers living at home on their parents' health insurance voted in the middle of the Republican tidal wave this year. Youths aged 18-29 voted for the Democrats by 16 points. But the kids aged 18-24 -- having just received an A in Professor Ward Churchill's college class on American Oppression -- voted for the Democrats by a whopping 19 points.

Young people voted for Obama as a fashion statement. One daughter of a friend of a friend of mine spent her whole college summer in 2008 working at a restaurant and then, with teary eyes, sent everything she made to the Obama campaign.

Luckily, she doesn't have to worry about paying for tuition, rent or food. Or property taxes, electric bills, plumbers and electricians. After being exploited by the left, she'll end up paying for it for the rest of her life, with interest.

Liberals fight tooth-and-nail to create an electorate disposed to vote Democratic by, for example, demanding that felons and illegal aliens be given the vote. But it's at least possible that illegal aliens and criminals pay taxes or have fully functioning frontal lobes.

Republicans ought to fight for their own electorate, which at a minimum ought to mean voters with fully functioning brains and the possibility of a tax bill. Not old enough to buy your own health insurance, not old enough to vote.

Gerry Clinchy
11-11-2010, 11:22 PM
Brain research in the last five years at Dartmouth and elsewhere has shown that human brains are not fully developed until age 25 and are particularly deficient in their frontal lobes, which control decision-making, rational thinking, judgment, the ability to plan ahead and to resist impulses.


LOL! I guess scientists had to "prove" it ... any of us who honestly remember ourselves between the ages of 16 and 21 would know that from experience. After 21, gradually sanity begins to set in.

cotts135
11-12-2010, 05:45 AM
This from someone who was investigated for voter fraud herself? Not once but twice this has happened to her. Connecticut in 2009 has apparently also investigated some funny stuff about her voting record. She was ultimately cleared in the Connecticut case and Florida dropped the charges because of a statue of limitations issue.
Maybe it's just me but I have a hard time listening to anything this frustrated adolescent screeches about.

YardleyLabs
11-12-2010, 06:41 AM
Of course, the other side of the coin is that mental deterioration with aging begins to set in as early as 40, when hormones also begin to change significantly. Obviously, our Constitutional framers would have addressed this but, with a life expectancy of only 45 years, no one thought the geriatrics would be a significant part of the electorate. Add to that the fact that research routinely shows that those still smoking by the time they reach their more "mature" years have lower intellectual function than those who do not, the pattern is clear. Coulter, as a 48 years old smoker, has no business voting herself and the new Constitution she is seeking should probably limit voting to people between the ages of 25 and 45, since those are the only ages that seem unaffected by anything except alcohol and divorce.;-);-);-) Why is it that many conservatives think the key to making democracy work is to limit who is permitted to vote?

Sign me, age 61 and still voting anyway,

ducknwork
11-12-2010, 07:35 AM
I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. If you remember correctly, you old farts voted for Obama overwhelmingly also. Apparently, you don't remember that I reminded you of that the last time you posted some hate filled anti youth rant on here. Judging by your terrible memory (although I suspect it is selective) you shouldn't be voting either. How can you even remember who you want to vote for from the time they solicit your vote outside the polling place, you wait in line for 10 minutes, realize that you pissed on yourself, change your diaper in the bathroom after using your walker to go get a new one from the car, start over in the line again and finally get to the voting booth? That seems like waaay too much time and too many exciting events for you to remember a few names to check off on the ballot.

I am 25 years old, have been married for 4.5 years, have 3 beautiful kids that are able to stay home with their amazing mommy because I work hard enough to make sure that I make enough money by myself that my wife doesn't have to leave them in any daycare. You don't support my family in the least bit. I suspect that you are collecting more govt dollars than I am though, you freaking freeloader. I pay attention to the news, vote responsibly, think for myself, go to church every Sunday, drag my butt to work every morning before you even change your first diaper, work late when I need to, sacrifice anything I need to for my family, don't accept any handouts, pay my taxes and I am never late on any bills of any kind. I have been that way (minus the wife and kids) since I was 18 and living on my own. Your broad characterization of 18-25 year olds is bullshit and blatant lies that are way too numerous to address individually. How about instead of bitching about 18-25 year olds 'not knowing what cars run on',why don't you bitch (and maybe even do something other than flap your gums) about the old farts from your generation that aren't teaching them shit in school? Oh, that's right, you just want to point the finger at everyone else, as usual. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it UB? I don't ever want to hear you say one word about Obama blaming Bush or the republicans or anyone for that matter for his shortcomings and failures. You are just as guilty, if not more, at blaming others and not being able to accept the fact that you are actually at fault. But what can I expect, you probably can't even remember that you actually did something wrong.

Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.

road kill
11-12-2010, 07:35 AM
Of course, the other side of the coin is that mental deterioration with aging begins to set in as early as 40, when hormones also begin to change significantly. Obviously, our Constitutional framers would have addressed this but, with a life expectancy of only 45 years, no one thought the geriatrics would be a significant part of the electorate. Add to that the fact that research routinely shows that those still smoking by the time they reach their more "mature" years have lower intellectual function than those who do not, the pattern is clear. Coulter, as a 48 years old smoker, has no business voting herself and the new Constitution she is seeking should probably limit voting to people between the ages of 25 and 45, since those are the only ages that seem unaffected by anything except alcohol and divorce.;-);-);-) Why is it that many conservatives think the key to making democracy work is to limit who is permitted to vote?

Sign me, age 61 and still voting anyway,

Support please?
Or is this a Yardley strawman??

Maybe alcoholics shouldn't vote!!

What the heck, maybe illegal aliens and convicted felons shouldn't vote?

Oh what the heck, nothing to be afraid of, right Buzz??



RK

Ken Bora
11-12-2010, 08:12 AM
I remember like it was yesterday going to the town clerks office on my 18th birthday with my Grandfather. I registered to vote and filed out the selective service card. Then we sent to Stewards for ice cream. I have voted in every election since. My Grandfather was very proud that I was eager to participate in the political process. I think this best suggestion yet in a terrible suggestion. I am in favor of some sort of aptitude test for all voters. Do they know who is running? Do they understand what local innitiaves and questions are on the ballot? Do they know how to vote? How to use whatever device is in front of them? Can they read and see or do they need polling worker assistance? I feel the stupid uninformed uncaring voter is far more dangerous than the young or old or smokey or tie dyed granola clustered voter. And as we all can see all around us……
stupid comes in ALL ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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YardleyLabs
11-12-2010, 08:14 AM
Support please?
Or is this a Yardley strawman??

Maybe alcoholics shouldn't vote!!

What the heck, maybe illegal aliens and convicted felons shouldn't vote?

Oh what the heck, nothing to be afraid of, right Buzz??



RK
Actually, it comes from a British study that also found a statistically significant but intellectually insignificant decline in intelligence associated with smoking after adjusting for all other factors. My entire post was tongue in cheek, and I smoked 4 1/2 packs per day at the time I quit in 1987. However, for references:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1261490/Is-proof-smoking-lowers-IQ-Study-suggests-20-day-drastically-reduces-mental-capacity.html

http://drantoniohowell.com/2010/09/smoking-tied-to-memory-loss-in-middle-age-but-experts-say-the-findings-dont-account-for-overall-health-factors-and-intelligence/

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/173.full

Many studies have shown correlations between smoking and intelligence, although it is harder to explain the relationship than it is to measure it. Theories include:
less intelligent people are more likely to begin and continue smoking than smarter people
children born to smoking mothers are likely to have lower birth weights and lower cognitive skills than children born to non-smoking mothers, plus they are more likely to smoke themselves
smoking actually damages cognitionAll of these factors appear to be relevant. However, the total difference in intelligence levels found are less than 1/2 of one standard deviation, or about 7 points of IQ.

My own view on voting is that we should actively encourage all eligible people to vote, and remove barriers to voting wherever we find them. I supported the reduction in voting age when it happened (even though it happened too late for me), and could not have been prouder when my own kids began to vote and take a hand in directing their own futures. I tend to think that Ann Coulter and her followers won't truly be happy with voting rules until they can figure out how to make support for Ann Coulter's own beliefs a precondition for voting.

Hew
11-12-2010, 08:31 AM
I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. If you remember correctly, you old farts voted for Obama overwhelmingly also. Apparently, you don't remember that I reminded you of that the last time you posted some hate filled anti youth rant on here. Judging by your terrible memory (although I suspect it is selective) you shouldn't be voting either. How can you even remember who you want to vote for from the time they solicit your vote outside the polling place, you wait in line for 10 minutes, realize that you pissed on yourself, change your diaper in the bathroom after using your walker to go get a new one from the car, start over in the line again and finally get to the voting booth? That seems like waaay too much time and too many exciting events for you to remember a few names to check off on the ballot.

I am 25 years old, have been married for 4.5 years, have 3 beautiful kids that are able to stay home with their amazing mommy because I work hard enough to make sure that I make enough money by myself that my wife doesn't have to leave them in any daycare. You don't support my family in the least bit. I suspect that you are collecting more govt dollars than I am though, you freaking freeloader. I pay attention to the news, vote responsibly, think for myself, go to church every Sunday, drag my butt to work every morning before you even change your first diaper, work late when I need to, sacrifice anything I need to for my family, don't accept any handouts, pay my taxes and I am never late on any bills of any kind. I have been that way (minus the wife and kids) since I was 18 and living on my own. Your broad characterization of 18-25 year olds is bullshit and blatant lies that are way too numerous to address individually. How about instead of bitching about 18-25 year olds 'not knowing what cars run on',why don't you bitch (and maybe even do something other than flap your gums) about the old farts from your generation that aren't teaching them shit in school? Oh, that's right, you just want to point the finger at everyone else, as usual. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it UB? I don't ever want to hear you say one word about Obama blaming Bush or the republicans or anyone for that matter for his shortcomings and failures. You are just as guilty, if not more, at blaming others and not being able to accept the fact that you are actually at fault. But what can I expect, you probably can't even remember that you actually did something wrong.

Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.
LOL. A little over-wrought don't ya think?

Since you're drawing lines in the generational sand, FWIW, 2 out of 3 of your peeps voted for Obama and a plurality of UB's peeps voted for McCain. ;-)

Hew
11-12-2010, 08:35 AM
I smoked 4 1/2 packs per day at the time I quit in 1987.
Holy schnickes! You must have used the butt end of one to light the next from sun up to sun down. :p That must have been a biatch to quit. Good for you.

david gibson
11-12-2010, 08:55 AM
I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. ........snipped

whoa duck calm down there, let it flow.plenty of us on the other side of 50 that dont feel that way.

proud father of 23 and 25 yr old college grads that didnt vote for obama.

Julie R.
11-12-2010, 09:12 AM
I too have voted in every election since I turned 18. Although I agree that there are too many young adults as UB described, I'd hesitate to generalize that they're all like that and that none should vote. I have earned my own money since I was 13, worked while in school and summers, paid my own way through college, and bought a house when I was 22 (probably the only sound financial decision I made back then ;-)).

As for your smoking stats, Yardley....the majority of us of a certain age (born prior to 1965) were probably born to smoking, drinking mothers and some of us turned out pretty well. I wonder if low birth rate of babies born to smoking mothers, is as detrimental to their adult health as obesity?

The really sad thing is the stats taken of various age groups and demographics. Look up who can't name their own congressmen and senators; don't know who the vice president is but they could spout off every detail about Lindsay Lohan's arrest record, who won 2008 American Idol, Kanye West's latest hit single...and they vote.

BrianW
11-12-2010, 09:41 AM
As pointed out earlier, I think this tendency is more of a reflection of the education, or lack thereof, those young voters had.
My daughters are in that age range and don't make their voting decisions based on catchy slogans or whether a candidate is "cute" or not, was on MTV etc. Working, going to school and saving for their futures, they're out there acting more responsible in their lives than the majority of politicians they're given the choice of voting for. :mad:

But beyond that, singling our any demographic of voting results and then proposing the disenfranchisement of their voice in our republic threatens us all. :(
Who would you then take the vote away from because you don't like the way they pushed the button or filled in the dot? :confused:

So if women overwhelmingly vote a certain way, would you say there goes the 19th, because they primarily think with the emotional side of there brain ? ;)
I'm sure the proposer of this 26th repeal wouldn't be happy with the way blacks voted, so no more 15th either. :rolleyes:

YardleyLabs
11-12-2010, 09:42 AM
Holy schnickes! You must have used the butt end of one to light the next from sun up to sun down. :p That must have been a biatch to quit. Good for you.
Let's put it this way.....when you smoke 4 1/2 packs a day (> one pack per day at age 12), there is no way to simply cut back. I would never leave the house without six packs in my briefcase since I never knew if I might have a really late night at work and I had encountered the perils of looking for a pack of cigarettes in Manhattan at 2-3 AM on a few occasions. I bought four cartons of cigarettes every weekend, knowing I would have to buy a few more packs to get through the week. When I finally quit it was cold turkey after spending a day in the hospital with my father as we waited for the results of his angiogram which showed that he would need seven by-passes with smoking as his only significant risk factor.

Julie R.
11-12-2010, 10:10 AM
As pointed out earlier, I think this tendency is more of a reflection of the education, or lack thereof, those young voters had. :rolleyes:

Very true. Sadly, the public education available to most of most of those under 35 was fomented to babysit those whose parents neither knew how nor cared about raising a child. Standards of learning were dumbed down for the lowest common denominator, so the stupid and slow could feel good about themselves at the expense of the best and brightest. It's a tribute to good parenting and ability to learn despite the odds, that anyone under 30 believes that they, not the government is responsible for paying for them to own a car, cell phone, flat screen TV, nice home, and take care of their children. Far too many expect someone else to pay for these things.

ducknwork
11-12-2010, 10:13 AM
LOL. A little over-wrought don't ya think?

Since you're drawing lines in the generational sand, FWIW, 2 out of 3 of your peeps voted for Obama and a plurality of UB's peeps voted for McCain. ;-)

NO, I don't think so. I think that it is bullshit that UB wants to repeatedly place the blame on other people, incorrectly, when it's all of our fault. I guess that's just too hard to admit.

Oh...out of MY peeps, you'd be hard pressed to find 2 Obama voters, period.;-)

paul young
11-12-2010, 10:22 AM
you will all notice that we haven't heard from UB since he posted this......

he just likes to throw a big pot of sh!t on to boil, gives it a stir and leaves the house so he doesn't have to smell it.

that's his MO, thread after thread, always has been!-Paul

ducknwork
11-12-2010, 10:28 AM
You're correct Paul.

Do you think that he really believes that it is a good idea to restrict who can vote by age? If so, that is absolutely disgusting. I have lost a fair amount of what respect I did have for UB today.

menmon
11-12-2010, 10:29 AM
All the statistic show that the youth vote never matters, because most don't vote. This BS was generated by a thought that the republicans lost because the youth voted.

I wish more would vote, because they probablly have a better handle on this fastly changing world, but it is not important to many of them.

dnf777
11-12-2010, 11:23 AM
Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.

Come on Duck. Just admit everything is your fault, and move on.

ducknwork
11-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Come on Duck. Just admit everything is your fault, and move on.

I would, but my last name isn't Bush...;)

Uncle Bill
11-12-2010, 02:05 PM
I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. If you remember correctly, you old farts voted for Obama overwhelmingly also. Apparently, you don't remember that I reminded you of that the last time you posted some hate filled anti youth rant on here. Judging by your terrible memory (although I suspect it is selective) you shouldn't be voting either. How can you even remember who you want to vote for from the time they solicit your vote outside the polling place, you wait in line for 10 minutes, realize that you pissed on yourself, change your diaper in the bathroom after using your walker to go get a new one from the car, start over in the line again and finally get to the voting booth? That seems like waaay too much time and too many exciting events for you to remember a few names to check off on the ballot.

I am 25 years old, have been married for 4.5 years, have 3 beautiful kids that are able to stay home with their amazing mommy because I work hard enough to make sure that I make enough money by myself that my wife doesn't have to leave them in any daycare. You don't support my family in the least bit. I suspect that you are collecting more govt dollars than I am though, you freaking freeloader. I pay attention to the news, vote responsibly, think for myself, go to church every Sunday, drag my butt to work every morning before you even change your first diaper, work late when I need to, sacrifice anything I need to for my family, don't accept any handouts, pay my taxes and I am never late on any bills of any kind. I have been that way (minus the wife and kids) since I was 18 and living on my own. Your broad characterization of 18-25 year olds is bullshit and blatant lies that are way too numerous to address individually. How about instead of bitching about 18-25 year olds 'not knowing what cars run on',why don't you bitch (and maybe even do something other than flap your gums) about the old farts from your generation that aren't teaching them shit in school? Oh, that's right, you just want to point the finger at everyone else, as usual. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it UB? I don't ever want to hear you say one word about Obama blaming Bush or the republicans or anyone for that matter for his shortcomings and failures. You are just as guilty, if not more, at blaming others and not being able to accept the fact that you are actually at fault. But what can I expect, you probably can't even remember that you actually did something wrong.

Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.


I've been admonished by Christians before, but this must have made you REALLY proud.


UB

Uncle Bill
11-12-2010, 02:20 PM
you will all notice that we haven't heard from UB since he posted this......

he just likes to throw a big pot of sh!t on to boil, gives it a stir and leaves the house so he doesn't have to smell it.

that's his MO, thread after thread, always has been!-Paul


You really do have a problem don't you! Guess the taxpayers haven't been gouged enough, so some of that stimulus loot hasn't gotten into your unions stash yet. Just keep paying your dues. Eventually Obama will see to it your retirement fund will be fully funded.

Talk about crap that smells, you've been living with it all your life.

UB

ducknwork
11-12-2010, 03:27 PM
I've been admonished by Christians before, but this must have made you REALLY proud.


UB

In all actuality, I logged on just now to apologize to everyone for my foul language. I have felt pretty crummy today that I let some internet troll get me riled up so bad that I made a fool of myself.

So to everyone, I am sorry for my language and I wish I hadn't said what I said in that manner.

I still think the fact that you agree with such garbage is shocking and completely despicable, but my delivery of my opinion was not what it should have been.

paul young
11-12-2010, 04:59 PM
You really do have a problem don't you! Guess the taxpayers haven't been gouged enough, so some of that stimulus loot hasn't gotten into your unions stash yet. Just keep paying your dues. Eventually Obama will see to it your retirement fund will be fully funded.

Talk about crap that smells, you've been living with it all your life.

UB


no problems; my job is to find solutions, on a daily basis.

stimulus money will never be used to fund our products. it is funded by the defense budget, annually.

i will keep paying my dues; at least you got that part right.

my retirement is part of my wage package and is funded by General Dynamics.

yes, submarines, dogs, fish, swamps, and rivers do have a unique aroma. i love them all; i wouldn't change a thing.-Paul