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cpj
01-09-2011, 08:41 AM
It's Sarah Palin's fault.

code3retrievers
01-09-2011, 12:10 PM
It's Sarah Palin's fault.

Heck, some of the posters here are already saying that same thing. Sad!

charly_t
01-09-2011, 05:15 PM
It's very interesting ( and disturbing ) to see how things have changed in that anymore it's always someone else's fault when someone does something bad. It used to always be the mother's fault you know. Just maybe that is why they are picking on Palin......after all she is a mother.

dnf777
01-09-2011, 05:30 PM
This is the fault of the shooter. Nobody else.

Does constant hate speech contribute to this activity? I don't know.

Do I think its poor form to have crosshairs over pictures of opponents faces? yes!

I think any responsible gun-owner who cares about our right to keep and responsibly bear arms would also think its not a good idea.

Its no secret that for the most part, republicans embrace gun-ownership rights much more than democrats do. As such, like any responsible gun-owner, I think its upon them NOT to portray guns in such a light as has been done recently.

I'm NOT saying Palin's website contributed to this activity. It might have, it might not have. But it doesn't reflect kindly on the millions of responsible gun owners across this land.

For our sake, please TONE DOWN the violent rhetoric!

charly_t
01-09-2011, 05:44 PM
This is the fault of the shooter. Nobody else.

Does constant hate speech contribute to this activity?

You are correct in that it is the shooter's fault. That was my point however badly I worded it.

And yes, I do think the hate speech does cause some people to act badly. They see that kind of thing as acceptable when it is said or wrote about.

Marvin S
01-09-2011, 05:45 PM
I guess all the violence shown in the movie "trailers" is OK? I'm not an X purt but it seems many of these "nutjobs" originate in alternate culture areas. Maybe if they had chores, activities, jobs or whatever to keep their fertile minds occupied things like this would not happen. It apparently worked for my generation & the one that followed. This guy sounded like an excellent candidate for a CCC camp!!!!!!!!!!!

charly_t
01-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Good points, Marvin S.

road kill
01-09-2011, 06:10 PM
Yep, no violence comes from the suggestive lyrics in gangsta rap either.

Just sayin'........


RK

dnf777
01-09-2011, 06:14 PM
I guess all the violence shown in the movie "trailers" is OK? I'm not an X purt but it seems many of these "nutjobs" originate in alternate culture areas. Maybe if they had chores, activities, jobs or whatever to keep their fertile minds occupied things like this would not happen. It apparently worked for my generation & the one that followed. This guy sounded like an excellent candidate for a CCC camp!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree Marvin. the blame rests solely on the actor. But while most of us know fantasy from reality, I'm afraid some loose screws in our society may see such statements as "legitimizing" their warped sense of reality, especially when coming from a legitimate source, and not a Hollywood movie.

But as a gun owner and staunch 2nd amendment supporter, I just wish we'd turn down the violent rhetoric a notch......but I know what happens when we wish in one hand and spit in the other....

It won't stop nut-jobs like this, but it may give less "ammo" to the anti-gun crowd.

edit: you're giving away you age with CCC reference! And hey, wasn't that a liberal jobs program under FDR?????? ;)

JDogger
01-09-2011, 07:25 PM
I agree Marvin. the blame rests solely on the actor. But while most of us know fantasy from reality, I'm afraid some loose screws in our society may see such statements as "legitimizing" their warped sense of reality, especially when coming from a legitimate source, and not a Hollywood movie.

But as a gun owner and staunch 2nd amendment supporter, I just wish we'd turn down the violent rhetoric a notch......but I know what happens when we wish in one hand and spit in the other....

It won't stop nut-jobs like this, but it may give less "ammo" to the anti-gun crowd.

edit: you're giving away you age with CCC reference! And hey, wasn't that a liberal jobs program under FDR?????? ;)

CCC was not just liberal, it was positively socialist, and would be so labeled today.

I would not care to speculate on any political motivation of the shooter. Too little is known at this time. My fear is that by calling him a 'loose-screw or 'nut-job' we may lay the ground work for an insanity defense. I want him held completely accountable. This was a planned attack.

JD

Julie R.
01-09-2011, 07:43 PM
Frankly I think the shooter is part of a new class of losers that feels empowered because they can find other losers online, via gaming or websites, and become emboldened to do something outrageous so they'll be noticed. Used to be, one had to interact face to face to make friends and impress or try to impress people, now entire online personas are created by people with no real friends and no social skills whatsoever, no sense of right and wrong and no safety net of real world disapproval. If I had to speculate, I'd wager it had zero do with Sara Palin's website or any official government or political website, but more to do with the plethora of angry, hate-filled websites that pop up daily from internet experts.

shootncast
01-09-2011, 07:53 PM
You have to agree, Dem or Rep, even before this nightmare, Sarah is a ding dong. You know it, I know it, the world knows it. I dont take sides, but if she is the one Reps cling to, your better off staying closet homosexuals.

Julie R.
01-09-2011, 07:57 PM
You have to agree, Dem or Rep, even before this nightmare, Sarah is a ding dong. You know it, I know it, the world knows it. I dont take sides, but if she is the one Reps cling to, your better off staying closet homosexuals.

Hmmm, you don't take sides? Very nice. And do you call people you don't like homosexuals in front of your little boy?

I'm no fan of Sarah Palin, but she's no dumber than the current occupant of the White House, and no more responsible than he is for what happened in Arizona.

road kill
01-09-2011, 08:04 PM
You have to agree, Dem or Rep, even before this nightmare, Sarah is a ding dong. You know it, I know it, the world knows it. I dont take sides, but if she is the one Reps cling to, your better off staying closet homosexuals.

WHAT??:shock:

RK

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:06 PM
Julie, do me a favor. Be quite

Marvin S
01-09-2011, 08:07 PM
Frankly I think the shooter is part of a new class of losers that feels empowered because they can find other losers online, via gaming or websites, and become emboldened to do something outrageous so they'll be noticed. Used to be, one had to interact face to face to make friends and impress or try to impress people, now entire online personas are created by people with no real friends and no social skills whatsoever, no sense of right and wrong and no safety net of real world disapproval. If I had to speculate, I'd wager it had zero do with Sara Palin's website or any official government or political website, but more to do with the plethora of angry, hate-filled websites that pop up daily from internet experts.

Really good point! Many look for someone to blame, what they need to do is look in the mirror!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:07 PM
Are you the old crazy coot who told Mcain Obama was an Arab?

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:08 PM
Are you all just bein free there in Alaska?

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:10 PM
Ill start, you guys finish, Sarah is a DING, (this is where you guys chime in together and say DONG)

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Thank you for editing your post Julie, you got a tad more respect.

road kill
01-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Well, I'll admit that shootncast & newlabs have proven that there are some seriously strange folks out there in internet land.

Holy Schnikees!!!:shock:


RK

JDogger
01-09-2011, 08:16 PM
Are you all just bein free there in Alaska?

shootncast, we knock heads here, but you need to simmer down. I already replied to you on the main forum, We really, really don't need you at this point.

JD

BonMallari
01-09-2011, 08:18 PM
Julie, do me a favor. Be quite


Are you the old crazy coot who told Mcain Obama was an Arab?


Who are you to tell people to be QUIET...

and Where do you get off calling someone a crazy old coot


the regular participant here on POTUS may disagree with each other but we generally show a lot more manners and class than you have exhibited just on this thread alone

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:23 PM
Sorry, didnt mean to hit a nerve.

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:25 PM
And bonni, you can shut the hell up to. I think you over looked one budweiser in the butter drawer. fetch it up!

road kill
01-09-2011, 08:26 PM
And bonni, you can shut the hell up to. I think you over looked one budweiser in the butter drawer. fetch it up!



For God's sakes man, step away from the bong!!!:shock:


RK

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:27 PM
(Stands back and watches all the hill jacks get all in a lather)

Bud Bass
01-09-2011, 08:38 PM
No I can't blame it on Palin. Yea she is a ding bat, if you recall I was telling all of the Palin lovers on here that in 2007, and I was screamed at by almost all of you. Ha ha ha.

I think the real ones who incite this type of crap are the ones like Rush Limbough, Beck and Michael Savage, and the hundreds of other right wing radio talk shows who imitate them in thier own areas spread over the country.

Way back when I was a kid, people respected polititions, even those on the other side. Even the losing party side worked with the other side to get things done in the country instead of trying to block progress. Compromise wasn't a bad word then. Our whole society is screwed up and full of hate and fighting rather then trying to work together. Bud

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:39 PM
What is hannity on? where did everyone go?

shootncast
01-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Thank God there are people like Bud Bass

Steve Hester
01-09-2011, 08:57 PM
Surely he's just playing on his daddy's computer.............

ducknwork
01-11-2011, 07:31 AM
I think gman hacked into his account...

mjh345
01-11-2011, 09:39 AM
I think gman hacked into his account...
Maybe gmans polar opposite twin; idiotic posts from both sides of the spectrum

road kill
01-11-2011, 09:58 AM
Maybe gmans polar opposite twin; idiotic posts from both sides of the spectrum

Sort of disrespectful........to idiots!!!:D


RK

duckheads
01-11-2011, 11:17 AM
Don't worry ole shotonhisface will get his soon from his liberal state. His liberal politicians in Illinois are going to raise the income tax by 66%. What really sucks about that is more FIPS will be bailing to Indiana and bringing with them there liberal beliefs that got their state in the shape it's in now.

duk4me
01-11-2011, 01:03 PM
Sort of disrespectful........to idiots!!!:D


RK

LMAO.:) thats funny.

Blackstone
01-11-2011, 01:08 PM
I may not agree with Sarah Palin, but I don’t think you can blame this shooting on her. I believe, whatever this guy’s motivation, it is something he blew out of proportion in his own mind. He reminds me of John Hinckley or Mark David Chapman. Who’s to blame for what they did?

shootncast
01-14-2011, 06:40 PM
Can ya hear the banjos?...Shhh listen

shootncast
01-14-2011, 06:52 PM
[QUOTE=duckheads;730933]Don't worry ole shotonhisface

Shotonhisface? You have me mistaken for our ex VP.

shootncast
01-14-2011, 07:12 PM
How is Arnold doing in California?

HoosierDoggy?
01-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Wow, I had no idea RTF had a village idiot !! Guess me being new here means I gotta read up !! Sarah Palin may not be the ideal person in some eyes (see above) but she is no idiot. You don't get to play the game unless you know a little somethin'. Saying this is her, or any other NON liberal politicians fault is like saying the gun was to blame. Just like "some" peoples posts.....its not the keyboards fault, its the *** pounding away at it.