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Uncle Bill
01-16-2011, 10:43 AM
This could NEVER happen in the eyes of the liberal/socialists...so you're excused from reading this. You'll also notice gun control issues have been omitted from this epistle...that is a completely different can of worms since we have so many 'independants' that favor the 2nd amendment and gun rights, but wouldn't spend a dime to support it's defense.

UB

Winston, come into the dining room, it’s time to eat,” Julia yelled to her husband. “In a minute, honey, it’s a tie score,” he answered. Actually Winston wasn’t very interested in the traditional holiday football game between Detroit and Washington. Ever since the government passed the Civility in Sports Statute of 2017, outlawing tackle football for its “unseemly violence” and the “bad example it sets for the rest of the world,” Winston was far less of a football fan than he used to be. Two-hand touch wasn’t nearly as exciting.


Yet wasn’t the game that Winston was uninterested in. It was more the thought of eating another TofuTurkey.



Even though it was the best type of VeggieMeat available after the government revised the American Anti-Obesity Act of 2018, adding fowl to the list of federally-forbidden foods, (which already included potatoes, cranberry sauce and mince-meat pie), it wasn’t anything like real turkey. And ever since the government officially changed the name of “Thanksgiving Day” to “A National Day of Atonement” in 2020 to officially acknowledge the Pilgrims’ historically brutal treatment of Native Americans, the holiday had lost a lot of its luster.



Eating in the dining room was also a bit daunting. The unearthly gleam of government-mandated fluorescent light bulbs made the TofuTurkey look even weirder than it actually was, and the room was always cold. Ever since Congress passed the Power Conservation Act of 2016, mandating all thermostats—which were monitored and controlled by the electric company—be kept at 68 degrees, every room on the north side of the house was barely tolerable throughout the entire winter.



Still, it was good getting together with family. Or at least most of the family. Winston missed his mother, who passed on in October, when she had used up her legal allotment of live-saving medical treatment. He had had many heated conversations with the Regional Health Consortium, spawned when the private insurance market finally went bankrupt, and everyone was forced into the government health care program. And though he demanded she be kept on her treatment, it was a futile effort. “The RHC’s resources are limited,” explained the government bureaucrat Winston spoke with on the phone. “Your mother received all the benefits to which she was entitled. I’m sorry for your loss.”



Ed couldn’t make it either. He had forgotten to plug in his electric car last night, the only kind available after the Anti-Fossil Fuel Bill of 2021 outlawed the use of the combustion engines—for everyone but government officials. The fifty mile round trip was about ten miles too far, and Ed didn’t want to spend a frosty night on the road somewhere between here and there.



Thankfully, Winston’s brother, John, and his wife were flying in. Winston made sure that the dining room chairs had extra cushions for the occasion. No one complained more than John about the pain of sitting down so soon after the government-mandated cavity searches at airports, which severely aggravated his hemorrhoids. Ever since a terrorist successfully smuggled a cavity bomb onto a jetliner, the TSA told Americans the added “inconvenience” was an “absolute necessity” in order to stay “one step ahead of the terrorists.” Winston’s own body had grown accustomed to such probing ever since the government expanded their scope to just about anywhere a crowd gathered, via Anti-Profiling Act of 2022. That law made it a crime to single out any group or individual for “unequal scrutiny,” even when probable cause was involved. Thus, cavity searches at malls, train stations, bus depots, etc., etc., had become almost routine. Almost.



The Supreme Court is reviewing the statute, but most Americans expect a Court composed of six progressives and three conservatives to leave the law intact. “A living Constitution is extremely flexible,” said the Court’s eldest member, Elena Kagan. “Europe has had laws like this one for years. We should learn from their example,” she added.



Winston’s thoughts turned to his own children. He got along fairly well with his 12-year-old daughter, Brittany, mostly because she ignored him. Winston had long ago surrendered to the idea that she could text anyone at any time, even during Atonement Dinner. Their only real confrontation had occurred when he limited her to 50,000 texts a month, explaining that was all he could afford. She whined for a week, but got over it.



His 16-year-old son, Jason, was another matter altogether.. Perhaps it was the constant bombarding he got in public school that global warming, the bird flu, terrorism or any of a number of other calamities were “just around the corner,” but Jason had developed a kind of nihilistic attitude that ranged between simmering surliness and outright hostility. It didn’t help that Jason had reported his father to the police for smoking a cigarette in the house, an act made criminal by the Smoking Control Statute of 2018, which outlawed smoking anywhere within 500 feet of another human being. Winston paid the $5000 fine, which might have been considered excessive before the American dollar became virtually worthless as a result of QE13. The latest round of quantitative easing the federal government initiated was, once again, to “spur economic growth.” This time they promised to push unemployment below its years-long rate of 18%, but Winston was not particularly hopeful.



Yet the family had a lot for which to be thankful, Winston thought, before remembering it was a Day of Atonement. At least he had his memories. He felt a twinge of sadness when he realized his children would never know what life was like in the Good Old Days, long before government promises to make life “fair for everyone” realized their full potential. Winston, like so many of his fellow Americans, never realized how much things could change when they didn’t happen all at once, but little by little, so people could get used to them.


He wondered what might have happened if the public had stood up while there was still time, maybe back around 2010, when all the real nonsense began. “Maybe we wouldn’t be where we are today if we’d just said ‘enough is enough’ when we had the chance,” he thought.


Maybe so, Winston. Maybe so.

M&K's Retrievers
01-16-2011, 12:18 PM
I didn't realize that it's Halloween. That is a horror story if there ever was one.:shock::shock:

dnf777
01-16-2011, 12:45 PM
I'm just wondering if they'll ever ban paranoid delusional web postings!!

Uncle Bill
01-16-2011, 12:58 PM
I'm just wondering if they'll ever ban paranoid delusional web postings!!


Naw...we'll continue humoring you.:rolleyes:

But you must realize, the ONLY person on this BB that remotely thinks you are an independant is you! So you can see why we understand your immature postings.

UB

dnf777
01-16-2011, 01:02 PM
Naw...we'll continue humoring you.:rolleyes:

But you must realize, the ONLY person on this BB that remotely thinks you are an independant is you! So you can see why we understand your immature postings.

UB

And likewise, I'll continue to humor you by pointing out that I am registered as "not affiliated with any political party", and vote for both democrats and republicans on a case-by-case basis. Call it what you want, in your very, very mature postings. :D

M&K's Retrievers
01-16-2011, 01:14 PM
I'm just wondering if they'll ever ban paranoid delusional web postings!!

Unfortunately, a similar story could have been written 50-60 years ago and you would have been among the ones yucking it up saying "it" could never happen.

Ostrich regards,

dnf777
01-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Unfortunately, a similar story could have been written 50-60 years ago and you would have been among the ones yucking it up saying "it" could never happen.

Ostrich regards,

I've been outside negotiating with a obstinate snow plow, and perhaps my brain is frozen....but what exactly is "it" that happened that was foretold half a century ago?

BTW, if you think its the government that will have you eating substitute meat, check out www.beefproducts.com and see what private industry already has you eating! Click on the "process" and read until your gut aches.

Ironically, its located in the same area as the one always looking out for us!

luvmylabs23139
01-16-2011, 02:52 PM
The gov't did wreck the best french fries. I miss the old Mc'Donalds fries made with the transfat. The new ones are not nearly as good.:(

M&K's Retrievers
01-16-2011, 03:13 PM
I've been outside negotiating with a obstinate snow plow, and perhaps my brain is frozen....but what exactly is "it" that happened !

Check out:

http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml

Blackstone
01-16-2011, 03:13 PM
The gov't did wreck the best french fries. I miss the old Mc'Donalds fries made with the transfat. The new ones are not nearly as good.:(

You must have missed the memo. If it tastes good, it's bad for you. Don't eat it. If it tastes like cardboard, you can probably have all you want. :p

mjh345
01-16-2011, 03:18 PM
Most homemakers don't even keep lard nowdays, whereas 30 years or so ago everyone used lard.

LARD RULES!! If it kills me, I'll die happy

JDogger
01-16-2011, 06:40 PM
Most homemakers don't even keep lard nowdays, whereas 30 years or so ago everyone used lard.

LARD RULES!! If it kills me, I'll die happy

I don't know where you reside mjh,(one of Marvin's peeves among but a few) but here in NM, Manteca (lard) still occupies a large portion of the cooking oils section of most markets. I don't use it much myself, but I have some out in the garage fridge.
In the big scheme of things it's no worse than palm oil or coconut oil, or IMO products like country crock, that comes in huge tubs and everyone thinks is better than butter.
If you've never had a bean,cheese,green chile and chiccarone (cracklin's for you crackers) burrito, wrapped in a homemade lard and flour tortilla after a chilly duck hunt, you have missed a culinary delight.;-)

Butter, lard, olive oil, a well-marbled steak!!

Food for thought regards,:) JD

luvmylabs23139
01-16-2011, 06:52 PM
Most homemakers don't even keep lard nowdays, whereas 30 years or so ago everyone used lard.

LARD RULES!! If it kills me, I'll die happy


There is some in my fridge right now.

Franco
01-16-2011, 07:22 PM
I've been outside negotiating with a obstinate snow plow, and perhaps my brain is frozen....but what exactly is "it" that happened that was foretold half a century ago?

!

What is a snow plow?

Are they related to sand plovers?

M&K's Retrievers
01-16-2011, 07:32 PM
What is a snow plow?

Are they related to sand plovers?

I think it's a maneuver while skiing to prevent you from killing yourself.:rolleyes:

mjh345
01-16-2011, 08:28 PM
I don't know where you reside mjh,(one of Marvin's peeves among but a few) but here in NM, Manteca (lard) still occupies a large portion of the cooking oils section of most markets. I don't use it much myself, but I have some out in the garage fridge.
In the big scheme of things it's no worse than palm oil or coconut oil, or IMO products like country crock, that comes in huge tubs and everyone thinks is better than butter.
If you've never had a bean,cheese,green chile and chiccarone (cracklin's for you crackers) burrito, wrapped in a homemade lard and flour tortilla after a chilly duck hunt, you have missed a culinary delight.;-)

Butter, lard, olive oil, a well-marbled steak!!

Food for thought regards,:) JD

For your curiosity and Marvins edification:
I grew up in Creede Colorado
I now reside in Missouri
I am Wintering in Texas with my dogs {water is pretty hard in Mo}

I like your list, but don't forget bacon grease!!

Marvin S
01-16-2011, 08:55 PM
For your curiosity and Marvins edification:
I grew up in Creede Colorado
I now reside in Missouri
I am Wintering in Texas with my dogs {water is pretty hard in Mo}

I like your list, but don't forget bacon grease!!

I like to know where people are from as it will tell you a lot about them. I grew up in SD, been a lot of places for a while but mostly WA in my adulthood.

I grew up organic, there were no sprays around, so know a fair amount about natural food. We butchered our own hogs, rendered the fat in a large cast iron cauldron, the cracklings were awesome! My job as a little guy was getting enough fuel to keep the cauldron hot. The lard was mostly used to make a lye based soap that was used to wash clothes & then poured on the garden plants to keep the bugs off.

The only place I drew the line was head cheese, any body here ever had any? My Grandpa used to put a slice of it on his bread & eat it like candy!!!!!!!!!

I sell dairy products for my son at Farmer's Markets so know a little about the idiocy that is taking place in government circles. It's a lot of fun to have them tell you something & when you tell them they don't know what they are talking about, they get defensive. The regulators don't even read the rules that they are telling us we need to follow!!!!!!!!!!! & they are wrong more often than not, but still in charge :o. That's the government I've had my fill of.

Andy Symons
01-17-2011, 02:25 AM
[QUOTE=dnf777;733964]
BTW, if you think its the government that will have you eating substitute meat, check out www.beefproducts.com and see what private industry already has you eating! Click on the "process" and read until your gut aches.

QUOTE]

I knew there was a reason I keep so much 100% Venison burger in the fridge. Haven't bought any burger at the store in years. I'll have to share that link with the wife, just in case she ever has a problem with me spending so much time in a tree before duck season!!

road kill
01-17-2011, 08:36 AM
[QUOTE=dnf777;733964]
BTW, if you think its the government that will have you eating substitute meat, check out www.beefproducts.com and see what private industry already has you eating! Click on the "process" and read until your gut aches.

QUOTE]

I knew there was a reason I keep so much 100% Venison burger in the fridge. Haven't bought any burger at the store in years. I'll have to share that link with the wife, just in case she ever has a problem with me spending so much time in a tree before duck season!!

When we eat red meat it is always venison.
Venison chili, venison spaghetti, venison helper and of course backstraps & steaks & roasts in the slo-cooker.
We have salmon filets that we caught out of lake Michigan in the freezer.
We have several pheasants for soup & dumplings.
We make or own "pheasant tenders" as well.
Think of all the Bovine hormones and Bhp and cortisone we are missing!!

In regard to coconut butter, it is awesome to cook with.
We only use olive oil or coconut oil for frying etc.

My Grand Ma cooked with lard.
The bakery was incredible.
The difference is they made their own (I don't know how).


RK

Buzz
01-17-2011, 08:41 AM
Like sugar will rot your teeth, this food will rot your brain.

dnf777
01-17-2011, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE=Andy Symons;734196]

When we eat red meat it is always venison.
Venison chili, venison spaghetti, venison helper and of course backstraps & steaks & roasts in the slo-cooker.
We have salmon filets that we caught out of lake Michigan in the freezer.
We have several pheasants for soup & dumplings.
We make or own "pheasant tenders" as well.
Think of all the Bovine hormones and Bhp and cortisone we are missing!!

In regard to coconut butter, it is awesome to cook with.
We only use olive oil or coconut oil for frying etc.

My Grand Ma cooked with lard.
The bakery was incredible.
The difference is they made their own (I don't know how).


RK

Amen to that!
While some natural fats may not be good for you in excess, I'll take them any day over laboratory-derived "health foods" the food industry peddles.

Prime example is Low-fat milk. Drink the whole milk, and get the real thing! Milk fat is ok. Just don't drink too much of it. Do you know how the health food dairies reconstitute the texture of milk after they remove the natural milk fat??? They replace it with oxidized cholesterol! A substance that does not occur in nature (like Cindi Laupers hair dye) unless an animal is struck by lightening. And as a health measure, Obama wants all school milk to be "low fat". How about a swig of natural milk, and water?? Perish the thought!

road kill
01-17-2011, 08:49 AM
Like sugar will rot your teeth, this food will rot your brain.


My food??

The way I see it, according to some of YOUSE guys, my brain is already rotted!!:shock:

Just sayin'......

RK

road kill
01-17-2011, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=road kill;734233]

Amen to that!
While some natural fats may not be good for you in excess, I'll take them any day over laboratory-derived "health foods" the food industry peddles.

Prime example is Low-fat milk. Drink the whole milk, and get the real thing! Milk fat is ok. Just don't drink too much of it. Do you know how the health food dairies reconstitute the texture of milk after they remove the natural milk fat??? They replace it with oxidized cholesterol! A substance that does not occur in nature (like Cindi Laupers hair dye) unless an animal is struck by lightening. And as a health measure, Obama wants all school milk to be "low fat". How about a swig of natural milk, and water?? Perish the thought!


Funny, I can drink milk from the cow direct (when we hunt in IA we get fresh milk).
But if I drink store bought milk I am lactose intolerant????


I drink soy milk.


RK

Uncle Bill
01-17-2011, 08:57 AM
Not sure how this thread morphed into this topic, but WTH...as Ed said eons ago, all threads seem to turn to gobbldygook (GDG was my portion of that observation) eventually.

But...as to the question posed by Marvin: "The only place I drew the line was head cheese, any body here ever had any? My Grandpa used to put a slice of it on his bread & eat it like candy!!!!!!!!!"......you knew he was thinking of me with that query. Raised on a farm in SE North Dakota, we too did our own meat processing. 3 to 5 hogs along with 1 or 2 steers, all depending on how many families were involved.

My uncle Reinie was the head "butcher" directing all the worker bees. He had the formulas for the various brines, and the seasoning for the fry sausage. He also supplied the 'fuel' for the smoker, so the various 'hangings' didn't all taste the same.

The head cheese was hung in the granery in their gauze wrappings. After a day of chasing rabbits with the 22 in below zero temps, that stuff tasted mighty fine. Dipped in some of my mom's homemade german mustard, some apple cider, and a hard roll...it was real "candy". Top it all off with a slab of sour creme raisin pie, and it has become a memory to die for.

UB

PS FWIW, my families freezer is always full of the usual suspects...the birds we junt, venison, elk etc. But in addition, we have our own meat butchered by a friend, and it's usually a steer and hog farm raised and fattened the way we like them. More recently, several of us have bought an entire buffalo we have processed for our freezers. We seldom buy from the grocery store meat counter...but in their defense, in Sodak I would have no worrys about those meat products, and have the utmost faith in what's being sold by these various grocers and butchers. It's one of the bennies of living where we do.

Buzz
01-17-2011, 09:05 AM
My food??

The way I see it, according to some of YOUSE guys, my brain is already rotted!!:shock:

Just sayin'......

RK


No, the food you were talking about sounds pretty good. I was talking about the "food for thought."

dnf777
01-17-2011, 02:46 PM
[QUOTE=dnf777;734240]


Funny, I can drink milk from the cow direct

RK


Better watch out! Some of those cows may not take kindly to that! :shock:


Seriously, though, the processing of milk removes some of the lactose binding proteins. This means processed milk hits your gut with much more free lactose, that probably overwhelms the ability to digest. The binding proteins gradually are broken down and release the lactose in a slower, easier to digest manner.

charly_t
01-17-2011, 05:07 PM
Seriously, though, the processing of milk removes some of the lactose binding proteins. This means processed milk hits your gut with much more free lactose, that probably overwhelms the ability to digest. The binding proteins gradually are broken down and release the lactose in a slower, easier to digest manner.


DNF, hope you don't mind.....I copied this for my own use. Many thanks.